Spiral Knights - Is my Acheron brokeded?

Is my Acheron brokeded?

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Wed, 11/21/2012 - 17:32

Sorou

So I was checking out some fine clockworks levels like the best of us when suddenly I began to notice something very strange with my damage numbers. My Voltedge does more damage to slimes than my Acheron.

Acheron normal attack: http://i.imgur.com/ZT64a.jpg
Voltedge normal attack: http://i.imgur.com/7vmDW.jpg
Acheron third attack (bottom number): http://i.imgur.com/S1MJj.jpg
Voltedge third attack: http://i.imgur.com/hEkOd.jpg
Acheron: http://i.imgur.com/oGBvk.jpg
Voltedge: http://i.imgur.com/BKdYg.jpg

You may argue that this is caused by the difference in levels, but I don't think that a mere 4 levels in a piece of equipment can lead to shadow damage doing less damage to slimes than elemental damage.... can it? I mean I'm sure my Acheron will do more damage to slimes at full heat, but it's damage is shadow and so it probably should be doing much more damage to them... what gives?

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 17:46

Severage

...

Not sure, there could be different reasons for it. I've got no proof of anything, just ideas.

You're wearing Skolver, that's sword damage. I'm not totally sure, but I thought that Sword Damage was a variable that depended on the weapon's damage. 4 levels may not be that much, but if the Sword Damage effects it differently, it could be quite a bit different.

You're also using a BTS, so you have Sword Damage Max! on your swords. If my above hypothesis is correct, it could make that difference.

Just a guess.

~Sev

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 17:51

Snubear

Your Acheron isn't fully

Heat makes a fair bit of difference to damage at 5* and in T3. That's really the only thing I can think of.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 17:54

Rangerwillx

Yes, it is your heat-level.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 18:05

Little-Juances

A quick look at the damage bars already show a considerable difference. Also consider they are half normal not pure.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 19:08

Moonlight-Flower

Weapons true potential is

Weapons true potential is unlocked once it reach lvl 10.

Thu, 11/22/2012 - 09:14

Vesperaldus

Actually, about a year ago I

Actually, about a year ago I encountered a similar phenomenon. My Glacius with Undead Low was doing less damage to Undead than my Leviathan Blade (which had ASI Medium). Now I asked my guild why (The Risen so not a noob guild), and they said it was impossible. Well after that I assumed that the Glacius was a peice of trash.. or that mine was glitched somehow... So I vendored it. Have yet to get another elemental 5* brandish since that experience. But now with this reskinned Lev Blade, I plan on getting a new one (this time with a CTR or maybe ASI) and testing this out again.

Now, I can assure you that in my instance it wasn't gear. I didn't have Skolver nor did I have BTS. I had Fallen Helm, Azure Guardian Armour, and Dragon Scale Shield. Both weapons and all gear were fully leveled.

Wondering what could have caused this, but I'm glad my weapons aren't the only ones "glitched" or whatever the case may be.

Thu, 11/22/2012 - 09:46

Little-Juances

C'mon the difference between neutral and weak monsters doesnt go over 90 points at full heat level on the deepest stratum.
The difference is even smaller on lower depths, he's on d19. And as already pointed out, wearing skolver, since Voltedge has a bigger base damage gets a bigger benefit.

Just watch damage table http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Glacius

At least here, there's no glitch yet.

Sun, 11/25/2012 - 12:26

Corefinder

I'm pretty sure it's the four levels of heat

I believe the four levels of heat do make a difference, looking at the damage differences (around 20-30?40? pts off).

Sun, 11/25/2012 - 14:54

Cryoworld

Heat it up all the way and

Heat it up all the way and then compare the two. Those last 4 levels of heat do make a good deal of difference.

Sun, 11/25/2012 - 15:09

#10

Arilys

Levels matter more than most people think!

It's the difference in levels. Look at the damage bars in your weapon stats.

The level 10 Voltedge has two nice light blue bars that almost reach the R in "Normal" and that reach the third E in "Elemental": that means that they're doing their full damage.

On the other hand, the level 6 Acheron has the light blue from the bars barely reaching the N in "Normal" and the S in "Shadow" and then a slightly darker blue bar going to the O in "Normal" and the A in "Shadow": which means it's not dealing its full damage yet (the dark blue part of the bar "fills up" as you level the weapon or piece of gear).

Hope that's not too confusing, I'm kinda bad at explaining stuff ^^'

Also, Hollows, you probably had the same issue as Sorou: Your Leviathan was level 10 but your Glacius wasn't, so it was dealing less damage to Undeads even with the Low Damage Bonus vs Undead.

Sun, 11/25/2012 - 20:27

#11

Vesperaldus

@Arilys: No, it had been

@Arilys: No, it had been fully leveled for quite some time. Both of them. I would have thought it was that if it hadn't been fully leveled. That's tlwhat made it so strange.

Sun, 11/25/2012 - 20:38

#12

Yorha

Or...

Is it possible you have a UV of damage bonus or damage slime?

Sun, 11/25/2012 - 21:30

#13

Vesperaldus

Actually what UV the Glacius

Actually what UV the Glacius had is entirely irrelevant... other than it should prove the damage should be even higher than what it would be normally, even if not by much. Even if it did have a slime UV (which it didn't), it still should have higher damage against undead than the lev blade.

Sun, 11/25/2012 - 22:03

#14

Zeddy

Yeah, 4 levels of heat makes a pretty huge difference. I think you have to reach level 8 before 5* weapons exceed 4* weapons in damage.

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