I'd like to ability to Gift the Operation Crimson Hammer to those in my Guild/Friends list. I'm talking about those that refuse to tie Steam with their SK account or those that don't know you can. I assume this can't be done now but at some point I'd like to be able to do it.
Giftable DLC
Thu, 11/22/2012 - 19:34
Thu, 11/22/2012 - 19:51
#2
I strongly agree with this.
I strongly agree with this. Not everyone have a Steam linked account. It's quite unfair as sometime Steam offers are unavailable via IG purchase...
Thu, 11/22/2012 - 20:06
#3
That's because it's Steam
That's because it's Steam putting them on sale. It's like saying that every game shop in the world should put on an offer when Steam sells games and DLC for cheap; Steam is a "shop" it its own right and can make sales whenever it wants, whether that meets up with the timing of other stores or not. Same thing; if you choose to deny yourself this by not linking to Steam, that's your choice/fault, not OOOs.
Thu, 11/22/2012 - 20:28
#4
I'm not even talking about
I'm not even talking about Steam sales. This is about me wanting the ability to gift the dlc to people that do not have Steam.
Some people have; some have not. Those that have not (that are in my guild) should have the option of getting the dlc free via a 'gift'.
Thu, 11/22/2012 - 20:31
#5
I replied to your post:
I replied to your post: #1.
Then I replied to Moonlights post: #3
Pay attention.
Thu, 11/22/2012 - 20:34
#6
Fourm-Brady is selfish
Linux users can't use Steam right now. We still can't, but will in the future. Until then, Linux users can't trade in any way unless they either use Wine, Windows, or Mac. This isn't very nice, being users either won't know how or refuse to use those things. Honestly, all users that are on Windows and Mac can trade but Linux users can't. Either some Linux exclusive method should exist, or you should allow straight in game trading.
Simply put, +1. This game isn't 100% F2P like they advertise until this is done.
Thu, 11/22/2012 - 20:42
#7
f you refuse to then
if you
f you refuse to then
if you choose
I'm selfish? I was talking about people who refuse to use it.
Pay attention.
Thu, 11/22/2012 - 21:08
#8
....
Okay...*rereads it*
I see. I have heard that there are issues with Steam in the first place. I am sorry about that though. I had this feeling you were against people who weren't switching to Steam or that you were saying that everyone should use Steam.
Also, note that I do have steam. I have access to some windows computers and such, so I'm not stuck on just Linux. I know that there are some, though.
Thu, 11/22/2012 - 21:17
#9
Truth be told, I wasn't
Truth be told, I wasn't actually aware that SK-Steam was unavailable to Linux users, so it'd be nice to see some workaround for that. Although as far as issues go with Steam...simply put, there are none. The one and only "issue" is if Steam happens to go down for some reason (which happens no more frequently than SK or any other gaming software going down) and even then, there's a very simple workaround for that to still get on SK.
The only reason people "refuse" to go on Steam is because it's permanent. Which is a fairly poor reason imo, considering that there's a good few advantages and zero disadvantages.
Thu, 11/22/2012 - 22:01
#10
The disadvantage to steam is
The disadvantage to steam is the increased boot times for system crashes, (often not giving enough time to reconnect before you're dead/someone kicks you) the terrible double-updater when first installing the game that often doesn't recognise the files you place in it, and the fact that you cannot multibox.
All of these hit me hard because my internet isn't always stable (first point), I'm on limited download (second point), and I have 4 accounts I use for crafting, and other silly purposes (third point)
Thu, 11/22/2012 - 22:13
#11
So, this isnt about Steam being good or bad.
I still do not see the reason I could not gift the DLC to someone that isn't using Steam.
Maybe for Christmas or other holiday or no holiday, just find someone in haven and send them the DLC. if they have it, it's returned. if not, they now have it.
I also like to do Guild contest. We do have some people that do not use Steam (reason doesn't matter). For the recent one, I want to give the OCH to the winner. This contest is now limited to only Steam players and I'm not sure how it'll turn out.
Thu, 11/22/2012 - 22:21
#12
-and the fact that you cannot
-and the fact that you cannot multibox.
You have two main accounts? Because I keep my crafting alt on a non-Steam account so that I can log it on multi-boxing or dual-logging via regular SK client. If you have two mains...why? SK is designed to only ever need one "main" character.
- when first installing the game
And often doesn't. And fails to ever affect you again thereafter. People have problems installing the regular client, too. And playing it over browser lends itself to browser crashes, just the same as Steam crashes.
-The disadvantage to steam is the increased boot times for system crashes
I couldn't comment on this as I've simply never heard it before. Even if Steam does crash, I can be back on SK within a minute or two and takes no longer than just whipping up my SK client and logging my alt/steam account via that.
The main thing about them is that none of them are really disadvantages in the long run, and don't really come off any worse for the player than just playing over browsers or the SK client. What I would consider a disadvantage to using Steam is if you couldn't ever buy CE via it, or it limited gaming options, or denied me access to the forums. Something that's a long-term effect and cripples gameplay or player convenience.
As for internet being slower and Steam taking longer to get in game...well, I feel for you, there~
Fri, 11/23/2012 - 03:41
#13
@Forum-Brady: It's not
@Forum-Brady: It's not because we don't want to use Steam, it's because we can't use it for example I play from Armorgames and my account is linked to my Armorgames account. There is also other websites that allow you to play SK directly from them.
Fri, 11/23/2012 - 05:07
#14
Pay attention.
On an
On an unrelated note, I wasnae aware that SK was on Armour~
Fri, 11/23/2012 - 10:03
#15
+1 to OP.
When OCH first came out, I had people who were willing to gift me the DLC for free. Really great folks, but unfortunately they couldn't because I don't run SK through steam...
So, to this day, I don't have OCH.
~Sev
Fri, 11/23/2012 - 10:17
#16
"They integrated with Steam
"They integrated with Steam so that people have the option to gift, trade etc. If you refuse to then...that's entirely your fault. SK has made an effort to make OCH giftable. Meet them half-way or don't; your choice."
THIS IS SPIRAL KNIGHTS, not STEAM KNIGHTS mr Steam-Brady. Having account on Steam (or even on other sites) gives great disadvantages to players who do this (still OOO seems to do more and more to force players to go to steam as if they get benefits from it) starting from lags, steam heart attacks and ending up on lack of access to SK site features.
As for suggestion, its good but its just an excuse for OOO to drag having Expansion missions available for F2P players in time. OOO obviously dont want to do it (why? ask them, not me, but dont expect answer, OOO never answers...). They say "we are working on it" ,"we dont know if its possible" but weeks ago ALL PLAYERS on asian servers can buy OCH expansion mission pack WITH CE. It is possible, its not difficult but OOO just dont want to do it.
Fri, 11/23/2012 - 10:49
#17
Asukalan, please do not give
Asukalan, please do not give out false information. Making the OCH expansion tradeable is something that is still being worked on.
OCH is tradeable on the Gamecyber server because they are not partners with Steam. Our partnership with Steam creates technical issues which need to be handled before OCH can be tradeable in the game. I cannot go into details, because I am not a developer, but there is progress toward making this happen. I ask you to please be patient while the team works on it.
Fri, 11/23/2012 - 10:59
#18
How about making OCH buyable
How about making OCH buyable with CE? (which is happenning on asian servers and also gives both F2P players access to OCH and is sinking CE) is it also not possible because of technical issues with steam?
Fri, 11/23/2012 - 16:14
#19
Yes, buying it with CE and
Yes, buying it with CE and making it tradeable is all related to the same issue. They are both being worked on by the developers, but it is a long-term project.
Fri, 11/23/2012 - 16:23
#20
wat
Long term project??? It isn't the number 1 thing in their priority list to not alienate users??? Oh. My. God. ._.
So, why promote a game as 100% f2p in:
-Armor Games
-Newgrounds
-Kongregate
-Do I leave something? Oh yes, original users!!
Excuse me while I go take a walk. I need some air now.
Fri, 11/23/2012 - 17:49
#21
I say long-term project
I say long-term project because it will take more than one line of code to implement, and it won't be coming out tomorrow. Long-term project does not mean they are putting it off as a super low priority, but it is a complex multi-step process.
Fri, 11/23/2012 - 17:54
#22
But Aphrodite
Why contine to make SK available to other places, yet Kongrate has several problems with transactions, as with other sites?
And also, why was there the late typo change for the Expansions?
Fri, 11/23/2012 - 19:04
#23
...
Aphrodite, is one of the prerequisites of being a GM to do Yoga and drink Calm Green Tea every few hours?
Cause otherwise I don't see how you guys deal with the hyperbole and sarcasm people use all the time.
~Sev
Fri, 11/23/2012 - 19:10
#24
They must have one of those squeeze dolls.
They blow through like 20 a day.
Fri, 11/23/2012 - 22:54
#25
@Asukalan:
Pay attention.
Pay
@Asukalan:
Pay attention.
Pay attention, also.
Pay attention to this, too.
I'd like to point out that I'm yet to actually express an opinion one way or the other on the OPs suggestion and have said nothing of the sort about whether it should or should not be giftable/tradable/CE-purchasable.
My only responses thus far have been to the people who blatantly refuse to link with Steam and then go around QQing that they don't get the benefits of Steam.
Do you also QQ that you don't have Bombheads despite refusing to participate in LD?
Do you also QQ that you don't have 5* Honour gear after refusing to play the Missions system?
If you choose not to link with Steam, that's your prerogative, but if you are perfectly capable of doing so and simply won't, then don't QQ that Steam users get benefits that you don't.
Sat, 11/24/2012 - 00:41
#26
@Brady:
Besides the fact that having Steam to play one game and no other PC game is completely useless, that still leaves out all the players from other gaming clientele. I now you haven't even mentioned that, but you can't narrow down your argument to only people who refuse to use it or procrastinate against it.
I think the point is rather obvious that if you can use Steam and don't, obviously you don't get the benefits - the suggestion is more for the people who can't.
~Sev
Sat, 11/24/2012 - 00:59
#27
I'm talking about those that
I'm talking about those that refuse to tie Steam with their SK account
Quoted from OP.
If the OP meant the people you described instead, then am I the one to blame for his word choice? I'm not a mind-reader.
Sat, 11/24/2012 - 04:41
#28
...
So the OP needs to reword his post.
Point is, that's probably the least likely reason someone doesn't use Steam.
He says "...with their SK account or those that don't know you can". The 2nd reason is more likely, but I'd think the most likely reason is they can't.
Anyway...needs to be done regardless, and it's clearly underway, as Aphro said.
~Sev
Sat, 11/24/2012 - 06:40
#29
Steam may or may not be
Steam may or may not be capable of allowing third parties manage user licenses. If users are able to buy OCH with CE, steam has gotta know about it. If the web users could buy with CE but not the steam users, now that would cause outcry.
I do know what happens if a steam account purchases it outside of steam (I used the 'pay by cash' method) - SK knows I have it, Steam does not.
This means that steam still offers to sell it to me but in game SK does not.
What would happen if I were to buy what I already have through steam? Sure, this is a 'problem' of my own making but what happens if a web client account converts to steam AFTER they purchase OCH?
refuse to tie Steam with their SK account
They integrated with Steam so that people have the option to gift, trade etc. If you refuse to then...that's entirely your fault. SK has made an effort to make OCH giftable. Meet them half-way or don't; your choice.