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Night-rove's Weapon Suggestion Thread! (New Weapon! "Ember Spark" Post 14!)

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Mon, 12/10/2012 - 21:57
Mzculet's picture
Mzculet

Greetings Suggesting New Weapons.

First some pictures

It is called the Sol-blade

It attacks Somewhat similar to Heavy weapons.

and here are the stats.

It look like a Flourish and winmillion.

Its a 5 Star sword, A little Faster than Sealed sword line, does a little bit more damage than flourish a slight chance of causing minor Fire and Stun.

And Less elemental Damage than divine avenger and warmaster hammer.

Origin: An ancient Sword used by Almirians to Hunt Vogs down. A sword also used to worship the Sun.

So Tell me what you guys think about it or any kind of feedback would be great!
TY~ Night-rove.

Mon, 12/10/2012 - 21:59
#1
Mzculet's picture
Mzculet
BIG EDIT:

I just realized Fire and Elemental damage doesn't go with pierce or Hunting down Wolvers.
What do you guys think?

Should the sword deal Stun and Pierce? Or elemental and Fire?

Mon, 12/10/2012 - 22:01
#2
Mzculet's picture
Mzculet
Just in case some people say

Just in case some people say "It doesn't Act like a sword when you throw it, It acts more like a gun" Well Divine Avengers shoot Mystical Blades? and Brandish Line Explodes 5 times?

Mon, 12/10/2012 - 22:12
#3
Severage's picture
Severage
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FYI, you don't hunt Vogs down. Vog is a deity, if you were hunting it, there wouldn't be multiples of it.

Having two status effects is pretty powerful, you may want to decrease its damage a little. Any weapon that has a status effect automatically becomes slightly weaker, and it seems like this weapon would be pretty strong without either of those status effects.

Having a longer range than a Troika? Idk about that. Those lines already have massive ranges, especially in LD with the ping issue. Maybe just have a graphical cable letting the weapon extend, without actually making it any longer than a troika's range.

Finally, how would the retraction work? When you throw it, down it like zip back to your arm? How long does it take to charge? Can it cause both statuses with normal attacks and charges, or only charge attacks?

EDIT: One last thing. Weapons that are split between Elemental and Pierce have greater disadvantages than any other type of weapon. The Argent Peacemaker used to be split Elemental/Pierce, but was fixed because it only did good damage against Undead, and was normal or weak to every other family.

EDIT#2: Another last thing. You realize you can edit your post instead of posting 3 more times before anyone responds, lol.

~Sev

Mon, 12/10/2012 - 22:20
#4
Mzculet's picture
Mzculet
Um...

"Any weapon that has a status effect automatically becomes slightly weaker"
If you mean It deals fire to the User no It doesn't do that.

"Having two status effects is pretty powerful"
"Can it cause both statuses with normal attacks and charges, or only charge attacks?"
Well I'm thinking about removing Either Stun or Fire. And Yes Stun and Fire can only take Affect when its Charged. Pierce as well. When its normal Attacks it Deals pure Elemental and Pierce.

"Maybe just have a graphical cable letting the weapon extend, without actually making it any longer than a troika's range."
Yea I agree with that decision since it Would make it Kinda OP with extended Range.

"Finally, how would the retraction work? When you throw it, down it like zip back to your arm?"
Yes that's exactly how it works.

" How long does it take to charge?"
Do you think that the charge will be Overpowered? Otherwise Maybe we can make the Charge Longer than Divine avenger Line.

Thanks Sev Fer teh Great Questions!

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 02:54
#5
Severage's picture
Severage
@Night-Rove:

"If you mean It deals fire to the User no It doesn't do that."

No, what I mean is, when OOO makes weapons, if you'd notice, most if not all of the weapons with a status effect (Or static family buff) are weaker than comparable weapons without status effects. For instance, Leviathan Blade and Cold Iron Vanquisher. CIV has less damage than Levi, but carries an Undead: Medium "UV" by default. Another example, Voltech Alchemer and Prismatech. Voltech has a lesser base damage, but can cause shock, while Prismatech has a higher base damage, but has no status.

"Do you think that the charge will be Overpowered? Otherwise Maybe we can make the Charge Longer than Divine avenger Line."

Well, not necessarily. I just don't recall you saying how long it takes in your original post. I'd assume, by the way the weapon functions, it would be about the same as the Sealed Swords. Was just curious though.

Mm...I'm really not sure how an Elemental/Pierce sword will work though. They already tried it with AP and practically everyone (including myself) complained until it was changed to pure Elemental, because of already-stated reasons.

~Sev

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 03:11
#6
Animefrek's picture
Animefrek
+1 to your idea

I wanted to post similar idea
well im glad you did
charge longer than avenger line
Attack speed like flourish line
i wanted it to be elemental damage spear with slight chance to inflict Shock
after long charge your knight will throw a spear that pierces throught (with a shock) enemies dealing less dmg the more monsters it hits
for example the first zombie it hits dmg would be 300 and second 270,etc...
when throwing a spear it will leave you very vurnelable or should i say properly immobile,just like with blitz
something like that :/
well i like your idea anyway,in my oppinion its original
i give you +1

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 05:59
#7
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Xxpapaya
The papaya simply comments

This reminds of the Hunger Games somehow =) One word, Finnick :P

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 11:53
#8
Pawsmack's picture
Pawsmack
Kentard had ideas of spears.

Kentard had ideas of spears. ._. +1 though.

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 11:57
#9
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Canine-Vladmir
Lets drink Papaya's blood!!!

Wasnt the spear from Book #2?

anyway....i think of a fisherman. Like one of 'em ancient fisherman with the throwy spears.
is the animation like, throwing a foot ball?

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 13:04
#10
Lezlyblaze's picture
Lezlyblaze
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Okay not to hate but I saw the drawing of the Sol-blade and well... um... it looks like a Sol-ax-trident. I would like to ask you if I could design it. It's usually what I do on my free time anyway heheh. And also is it only for Jewish Knights?? I think the energy symbol would be more appropriate... And last vog cubs.. not Vogs, like Sev said, Vog is an entity.

;D

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 19:26
#11
Mzculet's picture
Mzculet
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@Sev post #5

it would be about the same as the Sealed Swords
Yes the Charge time is Almost like Divine avenger.
Here's a picture showing how the Charge attack will show. There is a "Shock-wave" That Acts like a "wing" like the AP. The shock-wave gets Weaker as it Travels further then eventually disappears. When the Shock-wave Disappears the Weapon Returns. There are four 5 star Brandish Explosions on both sides of the rope. Also Like the AP charge, The Charge of the sol-blade Pushes enemies away.

http://s1256.beta.photobucket.com/user/gianbtst/media/Chargeattack.png.html

@Everyone Made a big change to the Weapon. It will Deal PURE PIERCE and deal slight chance of stun on normal attacks and Good chance of causing minor fire on Charge attacks.

Still deciding if it should be Stun or Fire?

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 21:34
#12
Hexzyle's picture
Hexzyle
@Night-Rove

Pure damage is OP in PvP and UP in PvE, so no to pure pierce.

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 22:43
#13
Severage's picture
Severage
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Oh gods no a pure-pierce Sealed Sword. Please don't utterly destroy Lockdown.

Pierce/Normal split damage please, more balanced in both LD and the CW.

I like the idea of having it have a slight chance of stun on the 2nd hit of the weapon, and a chance of minor fire on the Charge. Due to the fact of having two statuses though, it will have to have its damage lowered a little. Something like 30%, almost as much as a Normal weapon.

~Sev

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 22:50
#14
Mzculet's picture
Mzculet
Ladies and Gents. I present you! "Ember spark"

Here is your "Ember spark"

A New Sword I created. Another Heavy sword its Pure Elemental Deals fire on Normal and Charge attacks. Faster than troika and Sealed sword line
The damage is Less than Sealed sword line but not lower than Troika line.
When the charge attack is used, The beginning is like Troika line then Shoots a Comet that looks like a Valiance charge. But is Red Deals Fire/ The further The "Comet ball" travels the Weaker it gets. But as the "Comet ball" travels it is followed by explosions that also is strong at the beginning and Gets weaker at the end.(Explosions like Combuster.)
Ill add Pictures about the Charge later on.
@Hexzyle Really? But I do not wish to have another Pure elemental since there is already the Divine avenger and Warmaster rocket hammer.
And since there is no other Pure Pierce damage heavy sword. What else do you Suggest Hexzyle?

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 23:00
#15
Severage's picture
Severage
@Night:

"But I do not wish to have another Pure elemental since there is already the Divine avenger and Warmaster rocket hammer."

Divine Avenger is not pure elemental - it is split with Normal. And, don't put pure damage anything, it's OP in PvP and underpowered in PvE. Split whichever damage with normal. Pierce/Normal or Elemental/Normal.

There are no pure pierce heavy swords because every enemy that is weak to pierce is a fast enemy. The only exception is a Trojan, but for that there's the super-easy Blitz Needle technique.

~Sev

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 05:17
#16
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Artistbma
My god.

http://memegenerator.net/instance/31744086

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 16:02
#17
Mzculet's picture
Mzculet
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@Art

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 17:13
#18
Juances's picture
Juances

Who uses elemental and fire to hunt down vogs? Also, the use of the name 'Sun'... outside of Earth.... It's a star.

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 18:33
#19
Artistbma's picture
Artistbma
Abandon Thread, Abandon

Abandon Thread, Abandon Thread!

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 18:34
#20
Mzculet's picture
Mzculet
Thank you Juances! So You

Thank you Juances! So You agree to make it Pierce?

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