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Knight-Of-India

weapons purchased from brinks and very good but the problem is when you want to make it into a ....... ok here is an example.You have got antigua and want to make it into silversix.you can't get the recipe from the hall of heroes you will have to get it from basil.IF YOU TRY A 100 TIMES ONLY ONCE AND I MEAN ONLY ONCE WILL YOU GET THE RECIPE and if you don't want to waste time on searching for it you can buy it from auction house but the prices are like 40,000 or more hence you get bankrupt.

MY experience of making blackened crest in crest of almire:-
1.i go to auction house and try finding the recipe i get it for 34kcr which 9kcr more than the actual price.
2.get the energy 700ce(used my mist for 100ce) which at right now prices is = 7*6200= 43200.
3. had to get materials i had all the materials except rock salt which can only purchased from brinks i had to trade 8 jelly gems for it.
4. have to pay 5kcr as fee.

total payment =43200+34000+5000(can't add the jelly gems)=82200cr

suggestion :- able to buy recipe's from hall of heroes for weapons purchase from brinks.

this will stop such piracy.

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Vtipoman
Long time ago... the hall of

Long time ago... the hall of heroes dont exist.

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Zaffy-Laffy
Zaffy is Laffy

NO! The point of such things from existing is to be used as a trade off point between players, in this case recipes. If everything was so readily available from HOH, then Basil is completely obsolete. Arcade runs are near obsolete either as these recipes are some of the reasons people go on such runs.

Boss gear are also slightly more powerful than normal weapons, such as Barbarous thorn shield, Divine Avenger, Gran Faust, Polaris, your average LD gear. If you just want all the recipes to be dilly dally default price, you might as well let boss gear be purchasable with CE. There must be some sort of balance when it comes to such a stuff.

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Juances

And such recipes were always as expensive back then....

Knight-Of-India
@Vtipoman

Long time ago... the hall of heroes dont exist.

if they didn't exist a long time a go it is never to late to something they can change it now also.

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Juances

I'd rather remove it so people stop being lazy and play arcade. Or only leave a handfull of recipes rather than everything.
The game is in easy mode right now.

Knight-Of-India
well

first thing basil is already obsolete he barely sells anything so if he become more obsolete does it make a difference and the arena is one of he best places to farm crowns so the arcade won't die and juances can you pls tell me why are you talking about the past after that patch alchemy has become more expensive so it is better to just put them in HOH or we can allow to buy these recipes from brinks for tokens

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Breaker-Xd
Big Issues

First off, have you ever heard of grammar, spelling, OR punctuation? All of your posts lack this, making them seem thoughtless and brutish.

Next, the weapons won from boss tokens are MORE POWERFUL (in general) than regular Hall of Heroes recipes, making it logical for them to be harder to obtain, or more expensive to purchase from the Auction Hiuse.

One idea that I am not completely opposed to is having Brinks sell boss token recipes of higher stared equipment (i.e. Blackhawk, Faust, Divine Avenger, Polaris, etc.) However, there are obvious problems to this proposal as well. There recipes are rare and powerful in the current game, and making them easier to obtain will doubtlessly enrage some of the older players (as HoH may have).

TL;DR Recipes from Brinks for hellsa tokens (100 for 4*, 150 for 5*, just like Krogma recipe values) might be ok. Selling in HoH is a definite NO

Also, your example in the OP is terrible. I found my Kilowatt Pulsar recipe after 5 dives, and if you are part of a well-knit guild, you can ask your guild mates to help you search, drastically decreasing search time.

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Zaffy-Laffy
Zaffy is Laffy

Basil has not been obsolete just because he can sell well worth recipes such as Barbarous Thorn shield. Arenas are not worth as much as FSC farming.

One normal arcade run = 90 energy
2 KoA runs = 100 energy

Technically you can earn twice the profit with about the same amount of energy doing KoA runs. If HoH starts selling boss gear recipes, everyone will look towards KoA and drain all the money from it. Players can't sell their recipes anymore because of HoH. Agree with Juances, just take away HoH and all our problems will be solved.

Knight-Of-India
wow

if the hoh is removed the game shall become a pirate's loot.Money will flow in and come out like it was just water that people drink

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Zaffy-Laffy
Zaffy is Laffy

and that's how the economy works, just like the energy system. Adding boss gear recipes to HoH is just like allowing OCH to be buyable with CE.

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Klipik
it's like you want to break the game or something

Do you want everyone to instantly get all recipes, reach 5* within a month, become rich, get triple max UV's on every item in the game, get bored, and leave? because that's what will happen if you make everything too easy to get.

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Breaker-Xd
Sidenotes and reasonings

@Knight-Of-India
So far, rare recipes are legitimately the ONLY thing keeping people in the clockworks. Crowns, heat, and materials can all be farmed with more consistency and convenience from missions than they can from arcade runs.

Having HoH sell boss tokens would utterly destroy all economic sense in running clockworks. This is nearly undeniable; though some people will stay for the fun and challenge, the economically smart way of playing SK would become farming Jelly, Roarmulus, and Vana. That is very bad.

@Zaffy-Laffy
Though I disapprove of this idea, I do approve of buying OCH with CE :(
I mean
1) If it were priced at a value equal or higher to its price in CE, then OOO will be making the same amount (or more) off of us (theoretically)
2) It lessens rage of F2P knights (like myself) and reduces raging in Lockdown about hammers.
3) It will cause more people to want CE, raising the crown to CE price (bad for normal players, so kind of so-so on this point)

-1 to boss reward recipes in HoH (and to the OP for a disgrace to grammar and punctuation)
+0.3 to CE OHC

Sincerely, the T2 Lockdown Fiend

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Grittle
Indian man with a weird

Indian man with a weird accent, here is a much more simple example of what you want

A baker sells Epik Luguiru Cupcakes for $2.50

Lots of people (Like Knight of India) Want the cupcakes to be cheaper

The Baker ends up making a cookbook with the cupcake recipe in it

Everyone makes the cupcakes instead of buying it from it

Baker found dead 2 weeks later from a Cookie Overdose

See the moral???

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Luguiru

Having my name in your product will result in death.

That explains many things.

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Niichi
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You know, we managed before HoH just fine, because back then the playerbase interacted when it came to tracking down recipes. Guilds would check in at Basil to see if other players needed a specific recipes. Friends would send tells. Non-boss recipes could actually be sold at a profit, either through direct trading or the AH. It acted as a major encouragement to dive down from one of the sub-towns to Basil just to see what recipes Basil has.

I kinda miss that element to be honest. Sure HoH is easier, but it feels like the game lost a little something of itself when the change happened. I'd love to see HoH vanish again, or be a lot more limited in what it offers.

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Mtax
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U re BAD man.
U re wanna to make Mtax poor.
U re wanna to make Basil poor.
I don't like u >:(.

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Psychodestroyer

Are you stupid?

Wait, don't answer that, the result is self-evident.

"irst thing basil is already obsolete he barely sells anything so if he become more obsolete does it make a difference and the arena is one of he best places to farm crowns so the arcade won't die"

You are so naive is you claim to know what you are talking about. People grind boss missions to bypass the lesseer paying stages of the CW; Basil is the only logical remaining reason to run the Arcade.

"1.i go to auction house and try finding the recipe i get it for 34kcr which 9kcr more than the actual price.
2.get the energy 700ce(used my mist for 100ce) which at right now prices is = 7*6200= 43200.
3. had to get materials i had all the materials except rock salt which can only purchased from brinks i had to trade 8 jelly gems for it.
4. have to pay 5kcr as fee.

total payment =43200+34000+5000(can't add the jelly gems)=82200cr

suggestion :- able to buy recipe's from hall of heroes for weapons purchase from brinks.

this will stop such piracy."

How mentally deficient are you? You have to pay all the other costs as well ANYWAY. Adding them up to make them look big and horrible; we aren't stupid. The only extra costs you incurred were ones out of your own laziness and haste; 9k. It's called a Finder's fee; you buy off the second dealer, expect to pay higher. After all, THEY put in the effort you couldn't to find the recipe.

What for did you need a CoA so soon? Run basil and get more cr until you get the recipe you want.

"if the hoh is removed the game shall become a pirate's loot.Money will flow in and come out like it was just water that people drink"

/says the game will break if HoH is removed
/Game was working just as fine before it

Just because you're lazy to wait and run Basil to get the recipe you want, doesn't mean that it's broken.

"IF YOU TRY A 100 TIMES ONLY ONCE AND I MEAN ONLY ONCE WILL YOU GET THE RECIPE"

Bull. Ran Basil 5 times, Found Silversix three times. It's random you nitwit.

Also, no chance of implementation anyway. If OOO wanted it this way, they'd have made it that way earlier. They don't, normal players don't mind, so it's not going to happen.

Have fun whining more because you're too lazy to do anything.

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Softhead
^

....

I smell anger manegment problems(¬_¬)

Either way, -1 for the reasons above.

Obviously, you've never played before missions.

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Waffleconecake
^ meh

He may have a slight anger issue, but he is still a very good at pointing out the facts of false threads, he knows his spiral info.

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Amayawolf
Psycho iz cool like dat

Good arguments Psychodestroyer, you made some pretty solid points there. b^-^d

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Softhead
it's an inside joke.

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Canine-Vladmir
no....

but if you make boss recipes found in HoH, how will i make a living of selling recipes to chumps like you?

actually, i would like it if HoH was removed. I like doing clockworks, but its usually solo cuz no one joins.
(today, in T3 Basil, he had 9 boss recipes. the most i seen at one time)

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Luguiru

You know, times like these I have to make a big response when I should be doing other things like making responses and updating stuff in my own thread but I like to space my posts there so it can stay on the first page longer instead of having a really quick back and forth chat then watch the thread completely disappear for weeks and this sentence is getting silly long. I just want to make fun of stupid.

"weapons purchased from brinks"

Brinks sells weapons? Sells? I only get stuff out of him in exchange for tokens. What has Brinks been selling you? Snort salt?

"the problem is when you want to make it into a ......."

Balloon animal?

The only time dots makes sense in a sentence are verbal pauses, like saying "uhh"/"durr"/"and stuff", or in a dramatic dialogue. Since typing and talking with your face are different only the latter applies. Like this.

Oh, what a day it is to be the god of BLT sandwiches and not appearing in such a long time. I wonder how my obedient bread priests are doing...

See? How dramatic do bread priests sound? Why do they even exist?

"You have got antigua and want to make it into silversix."

Okay. I remember way back when I was doing that, I had a few laughs and weird noises when I finally found the reci-

"you can't get the recipe from the hall of heroes you will have to get it from basil."

Yeah. Basil has 'rare' recipes. Antigua is a 'rare' weapon. Why are you complai-

"YOU TRY A 100 TIMES ONLY ONCE AND I MEAN ONLY ONCE WILL YOU GET THE RECIPE"

A hundred? Took me four T3 runs. Met some weird people, had some shenanigans with different weapons, helped each other by carrying vials through air locks and giving each other pills or remedies when the other needed anything. Of course, that was before the swarm of diaper wearing teenagers flooded into the game and random parties almost never go like that anymore.

"if you don't want to waste time on searching for it you can buy it from auction house"

Waste time? Is playing the game a waste of time? Sure. Playing this game is a waste of time. You know what else is a waste of time? Sitting on your filled diaper so it squishes between your cheeks along with whatever you dropped in there, crying that playing a game involves playing the game. You know where those things on auction came from? People who are not wearing diapers or soiling themselves who played the game and got the 'rare' stuff. Stuff they deserve for doing what you and your smelly diaper were too busy sitting around to do.

"but the prices are like 40,000 or more hence you get bankrupt"

I can relate to that. Back when I was building my Barrage I had all the materials and money I needed to craft but only ~30kCr to get the recipe. I went to auction, doopy floopy flop. The only one that was there was 60kCr buyout, 35kCr minimum bid with no bids on it yet. Whoever put that up deserves my foot up their a-

I was saving my mist for the craft so running Arcade was a last resort. This was a while before missions, by the way. So I went around asking to buy the recipe from people laying around on the floor in town. Want to know what came of that? One person said "oh well the only one on auction is 60k so I want that". After that I did a T3 run and, ohboygoshgollygeetiddlywinks, the recipe was at Basil. It felt like Basil flipped off both of those idiots for me. All the other times I needed a specific recipe I would normally wait until I was looking for two or three different recipes at a time, but since there were still no missions when I was collecting them I almost always ended up jumping in the Arcade anyway. Was it tedious? Yeah. But it gave me a goal. Something other than mindlessly grinding bosses like most people were doing who quit not too long after their derpbillionth Vanaduke run. Not that most of them even fought the boss, they would just do the four floors then bail.

"MY experience of making blackened crest in crest of almire:-
1.i go to auction house and try finding the recipe i get it for 34kcr which 9kcr more than the actual price.
2.get the energy 700ce(used my mist for 100ce) which at right now prices is = 7*6200= 43200.
3. had to get materials i had all the materials except rock salt which can only purchased from brinks i had to trade 8 jelly gems for it.
4. have to pay 5kcr as fee."

I remember when boss token items were known for being special. You work hard, you get a special toy. Then Vise happened.

It was only a 34k buyout? Want to know the prices when I was crafting mine? At least 40k, and there were maybe two or three recipes up on auction. So I got the recipe myself and paid less. If you want to complain about your situation then I should be able to complain about everything I, and many other players who have been around as long if not longer than I have, which completely overrides your tiny splinters.

"total payment =43200+34000+5000(can't add the jelly gems)=82200cr"

Where does this come from? The total price of crafting a 5* item? This is cheap considering the item comes from boss tokens. I remember mathing up expenses when I was crafting more 5* items in short spans of time and it came out to be around 95k per item. CE prices were around 7kCr:100CE. Right now prices are cheaper.

"suggestion :- able to buy recipe's from hall of heroes for weapons purchase from brinks."

He sells the items.

Having him sell the recipes for those items would be stupid. Are you going to ask for Basil to sell the same equipment he vendors recipes for at half the price the NPCs in town do? Because you want them? And because you want something means it should happen regardless of what anyone else thinks or says? Because you are the center of the universe? I got your center right here. The Tootsie Roll center in a Tootsie Pop. Shove this thing right up your bu-

"this will stop such piracy."

I get it now.

You must be part of the "ME ME ME" and "not my fault" kind of people. The first thinks only their own needs matter and everyone else only exist to serve them. The second is accustomed to blaming everyone else for their own problems and expecting those people to solve everything for them. Such a combination deserves nothing less than crucifixtion. If I were part of that religion. Unfortunately all I can do from this position is mentally poke you with a burning cattle prod until you cry your eyeballs out of your noggin which will then roll into your diaper while you soil yourself so you can watch yourself relieve your bowels.

You know what piracy is? Pirating something. Like pirating the exclusive boss recipe access Basil has and giving it to a chump like Brinks but with stupidly easy access so the game becomes even easier. Know what you think it is? Something bad that means bad stuff. Because we are all meanie heads and if you scream and cry loud enough someone will come to your rescue and make all the bad things go away.

You know that feeling when you have to liquid after drinking a gallon of water but have to drive for an hour holding it, then suddenly a gas station appears and you can finally take a pit stop? Yeah. This thread. You are now imagining I am liquiding on it.

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Hexzyle
@Luguiru

You are now imagining I am liquiding on it.

*Liquidating it

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Psychodestroyer

No Hex, definitely liquiding.

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Breaker-Xd
But in all Seerusness

This plan is plain BAD.
It would actually destroy Clockworks and Basil.

I'm probably just beating a dead horse by now, but #THUGLYFE BEATING DEAD THINGS IS FUN ANYWAYS
WHACK

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Severage
...

Ah, it's great to have such critical posters massacring the hopes and dreams of the ignorant.

~Sev

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Softhead
^

God how I've missed it.

I want it to become like back in 2011-early 2012...

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Luguiru

Imagine if we had a party.

I can order us some pizza.

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Severage

I thought we were partying all the time.

~Sev

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Aureate
Processing Thoughts of You Always

I am not going to bother to reason with you since a) I doubt anything will get through and b) everyone else already did that.

So... Nope.
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