Spiral Knights - Best Use of a Shock MAX Magic Cloak

Best Use of a Shock MAX Magic Cloak

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Tue, 01/29/2013 - 16:59

Paintool

So I was crafting cloaks searching for a normal max when I got a Shock Max instead. I think Shock and Fire are the most sought after stat resists and I assume have a high market value. I don't know what it is though.

First thing I thought was making a Chaos cloak to balance out the negatives, but is it really worth it? I usually wear Seerus or Snarby caps, so it balances somewhat...

Or are Divine Mantle and Feather Cowl a choice too since they provide better shock resists?

A friend wants to trade a fire max magic cloak, so I think this shock one would be better for Lockdown.
Is it worth the trade?

On a side note, can anyone give me a ballpark estimate on how much this thing is worth?

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 02:41

Eclaium

I'd trade with Fire max.I

I'd trade with Fire max.

I used to have Chaos cowl fire med, and Chaos cloak fire med as FSC set which cancels out the negative Fire resist. Voltedge CTR Med, Blitz needle Fiend Med, Electron Vortex and a gun or FoV/WRH depends on my feeling. BTS, elite slash and elite true shot modules. That gave me Voltedge CTR MAX DMG MAX, Blitz needle CTR VH DMG VH/MAX(Fiend), EV CTR VH DMG Med. I quite liked the set, I could kill zombies like slicing a butter, I could kill Vanana like eating a banana. DMG Bonus Med on EV could deal the fatal blow on the zombies that Voltedge charge couldn't kill.

If you are good at dodging zombies and avoiding the shock wave of trojans, Chaos set with no fire penalty is absolutely better than wearing full Snarby set or maybe Vog Cub...except the fire resist. I LOVED the set. You can easily max out all CTR if you have Med CTR UVs on all your FSC set or whatever your set is. Also by replacing BTS by SSB, I could get ASI High on all weapons in my FSC set in exchange of Voltedge Max DMG.

However, as I rolled CTR Very High on my EV, and I sold the bomb to some guy, there sadly is no point at wearing the Chaos OP set atm. So I now am an ordinal Vog Cub user who runs through Fire trap with WRH Max ASI. I eventually realised that the most overused FSC armour set, Vog Cub was actually awesome too(I made Chaos set and Grey feather mantle, Divine veil BEFORE even making Vog Cub Coat lolz). Even though Vog Cub is awesome, I will totally use the Chaos set again once I get an EV again...

Well, in conclusion, I recommend you to trade your Shock Max to your Fire Max. If you run FSC with a bomb, blitz and a brandish/DA. In LD, Mercurial set, Seerus mask or Wolver line shock max UV is MUCH better. I don't think any LD people will buy your Shock cloak off, if I were one of those LD people I would save my money to buy the Shock cloak and buy a wolver shock max. And if anyone buys your Shock Cloak, they are probably making chaos cloak, I am sure.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 02:50

Fradow

I have the same opinion as

I have the same opinion as Eclaium :
- a Divine part with fire UV makes a great FSC part, period.
- on the other hand, a Divine part with Shock UV is kinda meh in LD since it doesn't have any offensive bonus nor normal defense (a lot of things do normal, and you'll get crushed by toothpicks). Grey Feather is not that good either.
- Either with Shock UV could make a good Ghost in the Machine part, but do you really need that ?

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 04:32

Rabeet-Ahsan

I suggest if you can trade it

I suggest if you can trade it for a Normal Max one trade it and make that into a Divine one which will have almost a full bar of normal defense with almost a full bar of Elemental and also Shadow Defense not to mention the Max Fire,Shock and Curse Resistance.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 05:23

Flowchart

I made a max shock cloak into a grey feather. Works great on GitM and LD. (Although I don't play T3 that much)
Although yeah, fire would be a better uv for a chaos cloak.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 09:26

Eclaium

Additional post

Rabeet's opinion is very defensive. But it perfectly covers divine's weak point.

Making the Shock max into Grey feather/divine is kinda waste. You only need Max+Max+Low shock resist to be immune at those spikes in GitM. Which means you only need full set of Divine/Grey feather/Mercurial(demo) or mix of Seerus mask + one low shock UV which is very cheap. If I were you, I wouldn't make the Shock max into grey feather/divine, and instead, sell it or trade to other max(fire, normal, elemental, shadow I'd say) then make Chaos with fire resist or divine with normal resist.

LD opinion is kinda pointless. You only need Max+Max to be immune to Tempest. Again, which means you only need a set of Mercurial/divine/grey feather/seerus mask. Additionally, you might want an offensive bonus so the choice will be from mercurial, mercurial demo and seerus mask. Neither of divine/grey feather has an offensive bonus. Seerus has CTR/ASI on gun and Mercurial/mercurial demo has MSI, and mercurial has piercing defense. If you think LD is part of your life in this game, just sell the Shock max and make one of those mercurial/seerus or save your money for wolver/gunslinger set shock max.

And opinion of chaos set(fire max), which I support. It is the most offensive and the best for hybrid players. Problems are penalties on Curse/Poison/Freeze/shock but skills can cover it, and just dont wear in SL/Danger missions. Also if you buy a Hood with Fire med or higher, you will even get a positive fire resist for FSC. Fire med is pretty cheap, only ~20k. Or you could make your shock max into chaos but shock doesn't kill you directly, it only deals half a health per second. What kills you is monsters around you while you are shocked. But Fire kills you directly, it deals 2-3 bars of damage per second. So I think fire resist is more important and most people don't run shock themed level so often, not as much as fire---FSC.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 11:14

Bella-Donna

about lockdown

It is people's mistake that you need two maxes to become immune to something in LD. This is not the case. You need a max and a high to become immune to something. This means that your magic cloak at 5* will be immune to Minor Shock and since you have elemental resist shock damage will be minor from any other source. The problem with random people talking about is you get some bad advice and some good advice. now let's go over the things in detail

Grey Feather:

Shock Resist: 8 points: Resists all forms of minor shock. Pair with a shock medium uv or another shock resisting armor to get resistance to the shock dealt by most of the clockworks.

Fire Resist: 4 points: resists fire, pair with a seerus mask or crown of the fallen to get immunity to minor fire

Elemental Resist: Great elemental Resist! good for all the elemental dealing monsters, hammer users in lockdown and even Vanaduke

Normal Resist: Great Normal Resist! Good against most swords including the Gran faust, and expecially against brandish and divine avenger users in LD and all bosses have normal damage and part of one of their attacks.

Shadow Resist: There is none. but you resist all damage vana deals and all his status effects except stun! Pair it with a crown of the fallen to get some ASI and more fire resist making it better though you get a penalty against fiends.

Divine:
Shock Resist: 8 points: Resists all forms of minor shock. Pair with a shock medium uv or another shock resisting armor to get resistance to the shock dealt by most of the clockworks.

Fire Resist: 4 points: resists fire, pair with a seerus mask or crown of the fallen to get immunity to minor fire

Elemental Resist: See grey feather

Shadow Resist: Great for dealing with undead and fiends! though they all deal part normal damage except greavers, but I found through my experience with the divine hood, that if you resist part you'll usually be good, especially if you are good.

Normal resist: It has none, but you already resist two two specialized damages. All people in LD usually go for specialized damage, it's hard to find someone using a pure normal weapon but pair it with a skoalver cap and you resist all types of damages. Also, pair this with a snarby coat or vog for FSC and have no weakness besides the oilers and wolvers that are infrequent and be able to take vana slaps and survive! or pair it with a crown of the fallen to get fire and shock immunity in LD, asi low bonus to all weapons (meaning you only need that asi h instead of vh) and the fiend bonus and penalty cancel out.

Chaos:

Damage bonus: great on anything
CTR: great on some things, not all

Shock resist: two points, not going to do much but will take away a tick or two. I have a shock low set of dusker gear i used for T2 LD (same ammount) and well, it's noticeable but not very helpful.

Elemental resist: see grey feather.

Normal resist: see grey feather.

Status penalties: let's be honest, you step on any trap, you will die from either piecing damage from spike traps (well just a huge chunk of health) or the status effect (except shock traps).

Bella's Preference: I'd go with the divine cloak, you can pair it with a lot of things and resist a whole bunch of stuff and it would be good for GitM, FSC, UFSC, RRT, RT and all arenas, especially fiendish or cadaverous clashes (all arenas have robots which deal elemental)

My second choice would be the grey feather mantle which unlike it's counter part doen't have a stun penalty and would be usual in all areanas and as well and all the shadow lairs mentioned above though divine would be better for FSC and UFSC seeing as tier 3 monsters deal a lot more specialized damage than normal damage.

My last choice would be Chaos because that needs the fire resist among other things and I think I wouldn't use it as much.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 11:19

Eclaium

there we go, Chaos buff

there we go, Chaos buff update

Chaos Forever <3

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 11:46

Bella-Donna

Black Cats

Black cats deal shadow and curse! divine mantle works here! xD

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 12:01

Eclaium

Chaos 4ever

btw bro, grey feather set has more elemental defense than chaos...at the moment.
dunno about after the update XD

and even if you get on shock trap you can get out using flourish/WRH attack :P
Also LD weapons(DA,GF) deal elemental/shadow AND normal.

UFSC? if you have 4 weapon slot you dont really have to care about curse resist. and you know there are full of trojans and slag guards. Normal resist is the most important resist in UFSC imo. Divine Mantle go away! (I like divine veil though, Fiend bonus is nice but mantle is not D:)

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 13:02

#10

Eclaium

there we go, TOO OVER POWERED

there we go, TOO OVER POWERED Chaos set. what you only do is now getting fire max chaos set. Q.E.D.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 22:50

#11

Rabeet-Ahsan

The reason that i was

The reason that i was suggesting a the Divine set was that most people do FSC ok everyone runs FSC and the Trojan swings deal Normal damage so having Normal Defense will be useful.

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