Spiral Knights - some suggestions about MSI bonus (Movement Speed Increase)

some suggestions about MSI bonus (Movement Speed Increase)

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Thu, 02/14/2013 - 19:22

Zeyez

about what I've been researching (by little) the bonus movement speed, he has virtually no desirable effect on Spiral Knights, after all, you can only earn 4% movement speed for each level and you can only acquire a maximum of 2 levels (8%) using common mercurial or mercurial demo set considering you could get +28% damage (4 levels) with any weapon of your specialty or use a more effective defensive set
(i'm not considering the unbalanced chaos set)

so I've been thinking about how to make this effect a little more useful and more noticeable:
[in priority order]

1° increase the bonus movement of the set mercurial and mercurial demo (5 stars) to medium level
2° give the 3-4 star versions of the mercurial set low movement speed bonus
3° add trinkets than can give small movement bonuses, considered as 4 star and not having the chance to improve to next level
4° (if implemented) reduce the hp bonus of each mercurial (and predecessors) and mercurial demo part by one
5° bonus increase of 4% to 5% movement speed for each level

obviously, the total bonus will be acquired from 8% to 30% if all of this is used

wanted to know the opinion of you if it is good or modification is exaggerated (maybe leave at 4% instead of increasing to 5%, to a maximum of 24%, if that can be used as counter against slow guns/bombs, or be exploited in events like Black Kat, where you just need to run to find and kill...)

I cheer for the Luguiru not come to... *loud sigh* whatever, is impossible avoid him after create the topic
by the way, he is the Dr. House of the forum? o_o'

*trying not to become his patient*

Thu, 02/14/2013 - 20:23

Hexzyle

@Zeyez

http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/62586

I mean, c'mon, it was still on the first page!

Thu, 02/14/2013 - 20:29

Autofire

You are experiencing a PICNIC ERROR!

*clap*

Your the first person I've seen who has great grammar (and fairly great sense) and who hasn't chosen his Avatar. (Btw, do that at Forum Preferences.)

One problem of buffing MSI is that you also nerf the Ancient Plate gear, which gives you a movement speed DECREASE.

Oh, and just to bring you up to date, Mercurial starts at 3*, not 2*. I think there should be no MSI on the 3*, low on 4*, and med on 5*. Mercurial does need something new to make it stand out from the other MSI equips.

Otherwise, pretty well-rounded. There is a thread on this, but it's old so a new one is nice.

Oh, and before we go on the "You're example doesn't fit SK", please just wait for the testing server to come out. :P

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 04:56

Bugtester

As far as I know

Increase and Decrease in MS are not linked. At least that's what the other threads stated. *shrugs*

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 16:19

Zeyez

eyes trying to see the end to another end

about the "ancient plate":
the set is weird because there is, after all, that set is maded to tier 1, but is acquired by killing vanaduke
unless it is done as a true set tanker (having more resistances, increasing hp or some chance to ignore being interrupted), it will continue being a set that works just as custome
but leave that to another topic, the focus here is another
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test server?
any idea when we will get this one?
at least, we can try to list some situations that can be used as a model

example
what's happen if you got that speed and tries to confront:

> Greavers (the annoying bat)
> Devilities
> Puppy (or turrets)
> Vanaduke
> some stages in general and the "Candlestick Keep" type ones
...

how to deal (if possible), with an opponent who is faster than you, using:
> Heavy Sword (like Faust/Sudaruska)
> Slower gun shot (Pulsar/Catalyzer)
> damage bombs (Nitronome/BAB)
> cloud bombs (Ash of Agni/Shivermist)
...

but while we don't have this test server... go to the conceptual field:
what could happen if the player's limit speed can become 20-30% more than it already is?

one compliment by the grammar \o_
one facepalm by talking about something that already on page 1 *screaming in agony because of the pain*
*editing the first about about exist quicksilver 2 star version*
and more one fail on my list
/sigh

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 17:48

Hexzyle

the set is weird because

the set is weird because there is, after all, that set is maded to tier 1

The set is overpowered in tier 1, yes. But that doesnt mean that it only works in tier 1. It's perfectly usable in tier 3, just since it's a defensive armor, it's outclassed. (By Wolver, Gunslinger, Demo) It's not this armor in particular, it's all armors (Jelly, Skelly, Magic)

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some suggestions about MSI bonus (Movement Speed Increase)