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Fri, 03/15/2013 - 12:49
Lunneth's picture
Lunneth

Something like this. Click.
An option to choose between wearing your sword on your back (and shield in hand) or just your shield on your back when you are on Haven.
And maybe an option to use both of them on your back.

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 14:52
#1
Krakob's picture
Krakob

Haven is an area of peace. Don't want anyone armed there D=

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 15:00
#2
Little-Juances's picture
Little-Juances

The sword used on the image is way smaller than most 5* swords. They are comically oversized and could look ridiculous.

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 15:11
#3
Hyiaku's picture
Hyiaku
My opinion

I like the idea. I know haven is a place of peace but look at the npcs. They carry their weapons and shield in their hands. If it were a true place of peace, why do they have weapons? What is the big deal if our sword and shield are on our back? At least they are shown like the shield.

+1 for me.

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 15:42
#4
Thunder-The-Bright's picture
Thunder-The-Bright
triglav.

if you do that with one, you dig while you walk. that would cause a MSD -6. so no.
jokes apart, no. some swords are oversized, some are normal sized. but would you consider gunners and bombers? where would you place those weapons? some guns cannot stay at your side (polaris, biohazard, AP... I would continue, but it's 11 pm here), and you have no place for bombs. discrimination is not what we want. unless you want all bombers to hate you.

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 17:07
#5
Possiblespy's picture
Possiblespy
Pictures!

Yeah, it's technically not what you're asking for, but this is pretty close.

Oh, and what are you talking about, "no place for bombs?" We could put them here. Plus, they're all fairly similar is size and shape. Except those shard bombs...

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 18:15
#6
Hyiaku's picture
Hyiaku
Oversized weapons.

U see a bunch of knights with leviathan blade, I believe that's how u spell it, on their backs and there isn't a bunch of holes in the ground. So yea don't say there will be holes in the ground when there has been big weapons on NPCs backs before. As for guns, u can put it on your backs, just a suggestion, or at you side. Bombs is easy to answer unless you haven't seen the bomb bandolier accessory.

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 18:54
#7
Ricochet-Orange's picture
Ricochet-Orange
Shields change size, so why not weapons?

I agree with this. It would be a nice option. Especially having a gun on your belt/hip, it might be good for showing off back accessories.

And the swords wouldn't be oversized, simply because they would change size when on the back, just like the shields do. If you haven't noticed, shields do get smaller when on your back (or bigger slightly when guarding).

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 19:06
#8
Hyiaku's picture
Hyiaku
Looks like I'm not the only

Looks like I'm not the only one who pays attention to the game.

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 19:14
#9
Toxxicpoison
@Possiblespy, you are showing

@Possiblespy, you are showing where we could put swords and bombs but that is basically taking the spots for the accessories that belong there so, that wouldn't work.

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 19:40
#10
Possiblespy's picture
Possiblespy
Or...

Maybe we could have some OTHER accessory to put on the back/front of our armor, that would read what sword/bomb we had equipped, and then display it in a strap/bandolier.

That way, the system we currently have would keep the new idea from clipping horribly with any previous accessories.

I guess either one would just be empty if one didn't have a sword/bomb equipped, though. Oh well, we'd just have an empty sheath/bandolier, not the end of the world.

Oh, and that oversized sword issue? Maybe just have the handle of the desired sword sticking out of a sheath of holding.

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 19:43
#11
Hyiaku's picture
Hyiaku
@toxxicpoison

Some people really don't have wings or vitakits and so on, so why not have weapons there? It doesn't hurt anybody, and gives you a chance to show off your weapons. The closest of a blade and shield on you back is a side blade or the exalted honor guard/aegis shields. But who wants a cheap fake weapon that you can't use tone a representative of your real weapon?

Sat, 03/16/2013 - 06:35
#12
Thunder-The-Bright's picture
Thunder-The-Bright
misinterpreting my post? explain again!

did I say that it would cause holes in the ground? that was the joke part man! read carefully please.
1 with great sword you have to get them higher not to sink in the ground (not digging, since there is no ground, but sink). that would be ridiculus with a triglav, or even with a levi.
2 Polaris, supernova, neutralizer, biohazard, AP, Sentenza, valiance, blitz, plague. this guns cannot be at your side, they are too big. biohazard, neutralizer, blitz and plague cannot stay at your back because they are too wide. go check the wiki if you want. and meanwhile, find a place for these guns.
3 that bomb belt is not big enough. unless you want to get only one bomb. and even in that case, look at: dark briar barrage, big angry bomb, nitrome, any shard bomb, any mist bomb. now say me how could they be at your front or side.

Sat, 03/16/2013 - 10:58
#13
Klipik-Forum's picture
Klipik-Forum

What if we have four weapon slots? Or a bomb? Or a gun?

~Klipik's alt

Sat, 03/16/2013 - 11:48
#14
Hyiaku's picture
Hyiaku
Ummm noklip

There are 4 weapon slots.

Sat, 03/16/2013 - 11:56
#15
Softhead's picture
Softhead
^

He's talking as if how can it all fit 4 weapons onto your belt.

Not everyone uses 4.

Only way this will work with 5* weapons is ridiculous shrinking.

REALLY ridiculous.

Sat, 03/16/2013 - 12:00
#16
Hyiaku's picture
Hyiaku
So he is talking about

So he is talking about a display slot or a weapon costume slot. It may take shrinking but I don't think it would take much if it were guns and bombs or swords if they were on the back.

Sun, 03/17/2013 - 01:47
#17
Hexzyle's picture
Hexzyle
-_____________________-

I am facepalming at how stupid this guy is.

Sun, 03/17/2013 - 05:39
#18
Hyiaku's picture
Hyiaku
T_T

Really hexzyle? Do you have to insult everybody? Why do you hate me? I'm here posting and your insulting me. Really, you need to get a life instead of insulting me and everybody else. Geez.

Sun, 03/17/2013 - 05:59
#19
Softhead's picture
Softhead
Use spiral spy.

....

Sun, 03/17/2013 - 06:07
#20
Hyiaku's picture
Hyiaku
^

Can't right now, I'm grounded so I can't use my laptop. I can use my iPad slim posting with it.

Sun, 03/17/2013 - 07:53
#21
Zorbez's picture
Zorbez
Red Alert

Looks like someone has used the famous "get a life" counter attack
/Looks at Hyiaku
/wave
I predict a 30% increase in aggression of comments

Sun, 03/17/2013 - 09:04
#22
Hexzyle's picture
Hexzyle
@Hyiaku

I very rarely insult people. But you're pushing the boundaries. You don't read peoples comments, or even understand what anyone is trying to tell you.
A pet peeve of mine is when people don't read previous comments before starting a debate about something. It's comparable to sticking your fingers in your ears and then shouting what you want to say.

Thunder-The-Bright:
1 with great sword you have to get them higher not to sink in the ground (not digging, since there is no ground, but sink). that would be ridiculus with a triglav, or even with a levi.
2 Polaris, supernova, neutralizer, biohazard, AP, Sentenza, valiance, blitz, plague. this guns cannot be at your side, they are too big. biohazard, neutralizer, blitz and plague cannot stay at your back because they are too wide. go check the wiki if you want. and meanwhile, find a place for these guns.
3 that bomb belt is not big enough. unless you want to get only one bomb. and even in that case, look at: dark briar barrage, big angry bomb, nitrome, any shard bomb, any mist bomb. now say me how could they be at your front or side.

Hyiaku: It may take shrinking but I don't think it would take much if it were guns and bombs or swords if they were on the back.

Have you any idea how much bombs would have to be shrunk to not look remotely stupid?
Have you even seen the size of a Troika?
Have you never seen an Argent Peacemaker?

If you haven't used Spiral Spy to back up your claims, then you shouldn't be making baseless statements.

Sun, 03/17/2013 - 10:41
#23
Thunder-The-Bright's picture
Thunder-The-Bright
no, really.

just the wiki is enough. sudaruska is 1.5 times your knight. AP is 1.5 times your arm. a BAB is big as your head. a shard bomb is big as half of your body. now tell me how much shrinking do we have to do. those bombs, guns and swords are against the common laws of physics in matters of size. they (taken from sudaruska description) trade style and panache for ridiculous amounts of blunt force trauma. they are ridiculous (as they should be).

Sun, 03/17/2013 - 11:43
#24
Hyiaku's picture
Hyiaku
Yes I have a argent and troika line thing.

As a matter of fact I have used spiral spy for it and have done so with success with AP and troika. The only ones I haven't done yet are bombs. Otherwise it is a good fit. Plus I have seen an npc with a troika of some sort on its back, so don't tell me it is too big. I don't have pics from spiral spy because they turn out horrible.

Hex, I'll get to you some other time. But I do read previous comments. Sometimes it's how people type that I don't understand what thy are saying.

Sun, 03/17/2013 - 12:37
#25
Thunder-The-Bright's picture
Thunder-The-Bright
I want screenshots.

where have you fit polaris and biohazard? and AP? how could you?
I want screenshots. I don't care how much bad they are. I want screenshots.

Sun, 03/17/2013 - 12:54
#26
Hyiaku's picture
Hyiaku
My pics of spiral spy

I'm still working on getting ones that you can see. Right now you can't even see the weapons or even the knight. I'll keep working on it tough.

Sun, 03/17/2013 - 17:49
#27
Soulstaker's picture
Soulstaker
I think there should be a

I think there should be a sword slot costume? It will not reskin the sword but it will be on your back. It will not be an accessory because that would be unfair to people with wings or something. So, since it will be its own item/costume, it won't mess up things.

Sun, 03/17/2013 - 19:08
#28
Tohru-Adachi's picture
Tohru-Adachi
Or sword as an accessory. Eh?

Or sword as an accessory.

Eh? Varies in colour and shape.

Sun, 03/17/2013 - 19:09
#29
Klipik's picture
Klipik

+1 to display weapon slot

Sun, 03/17/2013 - 20:24
#30
Softhead's picture
Softhead
I had to shrink a Troika down.

Brandishes/calis fit snug.

Same with spur Hatchet, and such. Most other small/med weapons are small enough to fit without floor cliping.

Sun, 03/17/2013 - 21:46
#31
Softhead's picture
Softhead
http://www.imagebam.com/image

http://www.imagebam.com/image/ead508243863260
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EDIT: Seerus needs to be re sized slightly.

http://www.imagebam.com/image/9a856b243867049
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EDIT:

Clips with these kinds of gear:

Demo, Gunslinger and Jelly.

http://www.imagebam.com/image/27b6d6243867753
http://www.imagebam.com/image/83bf6c243867758
http://www.imagebam.com/image/d83efb243867764

Sun, 03/17/2013 - 21:20
#32
Hyiaku's picture
Hyiaku
Thanks soft.

I'm still figuring it out but it looks like soft has got the swords part covered for me.

Sun, 03/17/2013 - 21:27
#33
Softhead's picture
Softhead
All exept troika and the maces fit.

Wait... What about Seerus' gear....

And gear that has any outward back items.

Sun, 03/17/2013 - 22:09
#34
Hyiaku's picture
Hyiaku
^

I've seen the troika fit u just need a little more work in it. It took me quite some time to do it though so don't get frustrated. The rocket hammers are pretty tricky. You not only have to shrink them but also do a little rotating. Bombs are good when u shrink them, and well guns are the same. Guns take a bit of time too. I'm still not completely perfect on them.

Sun, 03/17/2013 - 22:34
#35
Softhead's picture
Softhead
I used the EXACT same thing as the knight in photo.

If I was to try and fit it, it would look wierd.

Problem is clipping.

As shown.

As well as clutter.

Where would bombs go?

Mon, 03/18/2013 - 04:57
#36
Hyiaku's picture
Hyiaku
Bomb placement...

I actually put the bombs on the back where the shield would go at it fits pretty nicely. Not much shrinking is needed really if u put on the back.

Mon, 03/18/2013 - 19:41
#37
Hexzyle's picture
Hexzyle

Some of the swords look really bad due to the placement of the hilt.
Nightblade and Seerus Hammer for example, look terrible. Perhaps Nightblade should be returned to its sheath, and Seerus Hammer should either be non-visibile, or would have to sit nearly horizontal so that the shaft of the sword crosses a location that it can be strapped to.
You still need to do guns too.

Tue, 03/19/2013 - 04:37
#38
Thesamurai's picture
Thesamurai
I wanted to post the same thing...

An actual sword on your back would be an awesome idea unlike the 'side blade' which looks horrible in most cases do to it not being able to blend with most of the armor sets... now if only some one put this in game that would be just great..

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