Spiral Knights - Petition: Add the option to toggle between the classic GUI and the new one.

Petition: Add the option to toggle between the classic GUI and the new one.

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Mon, 04/01/2013 - 01:35

Xenonguard

If the developers are planning to do this, I apologise in advance but according to some people on the preview server, there is no such option.

The development team made this mistake once with the shard bombs. It's not that people hate the new shard bombs, I for one enjoy using them profusely. What they simply refused or were ignorant to was to have both the old and the new. Don't get me started on the "too gun-like" aspect either.

Some people, like the new GUI. Others, prefer the old one. Why does everything have to be a 'one or the other' deal? I'm sure there's still coding for the old GUI locked up somewhere in the Three Rings Archives. The real question is, WHY NOT BOTH!

People who've signed this petition:

Koffin-Kat
Klipik
Qwote
Hexzyle
Zeka
Xxpapaya
Infernoburner
Snowdusk
xspiralAce
Sareth
Filexis
Thimol
Gravelord-Caste
Oatmonster
Zephyrgon
Bluencool
Spold
Oneerranttwitch
Bacon-Strip
Burq
Hardfault
Nuntis
Ednoverti
Arilys
Rogdon
Reddinferno
Troupe-Forums
Yononaka
Arkate
Reto-Da-Liz
Ewbte
Dagunner
The-Mighty-Potato

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 01:50

Krakob

What are you talking about?

What was gun-like?

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 02:16

Xenonguard

@Krakob

The shards exploding from the old Shard Bombs, most notably the Radiant Sun Shards.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 02:43

Krakob

@Unstable-Ordninace

Please, show me your source.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 03:15

Xenonguard

Can we please keep this on topic?

http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/58164

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 03:29

Hexzyle

Off-topic? You're using an unfounded argument

I don't see where Nick said that they were too gun-like. He did say that the bomb had a function resembling a gun, but he never said that it was the cause of the change.

"...they never said it was too gunlike. They specifically said it was "not bomblike enough". Players just assumed they meant that it was the "gun" aspect, but considering the fact that we have several "mixed" weapons and they went on to release DR which is the farthest thing one can imagine from a bomb, it leads to the conclusion that the problem wasn't in the range aspect. The problem was in the fact that a bomb, that's designed for aoe and group kills, was being used primarily to spike ohko targets. Experienced bombers didn't use RSS to clear crowds as much as they just used it to spike targets dead in an instant. It was a lot faster, easier and safer.
Which is explicitly not bomb-like...

-DarkBrady

Sorry about the multiple edits to my post. I do that a lot.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 08:54

Koffin-Kat

I hope we will be able to switch between the old and the new UI.
I like this current Interface, I like its simplicity.

Petition signed.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 09:39

Little-Juances

Thing is if they ever want to add new options/buttons, they'd have to do twice the work
(since the game started they added social hub, missions, krogmo, loadouts)

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 13:50

Klipik

above arguments are irrelevant, RSS was changed and people wanted the option of both. Doesn't matter how it was changed.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 13:55

Softhead

Or.

Atleast have the colourscheme

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 16:06

#10

Qwote

title

Tue, 04/02/2013 - 04:16

#11

Hexzyle

About the original title.

I will most likely use the new interface 24/7, but I'm signing this so I don't have to hear complaints from the rest of the community about it.

Tue, 04/02/2013 - 03:22

#12

Zeka

Signed.
I love the current design. Especially the Gears behind the minimap.
Though clearly a WIP, the new vial and hp bar design seem to clash with the current SK art style.
It doesn't match the current art style of material or equipment icons anymore (unless those are getting an art update as well)

The use of that neutral silver/grey colour in the hp bar is also confusing at first.
Contrary to its intended visual feedback, the grey part of the bar looks to indicates the amount of hp currently missing or lost.
Anyone who has played enough video games will know what I'm talking about.

The inclusion of hp bars and the weakness indicator is a nice addition to make the game even more accessible to people.
The amount of hp bars that may appear during hectic fights (especially with large crowds and haze bombs such as AoA) may be overwhelming to certain people.
Though I'm sure that OOO will leave those mini hp bars as a toggle option in the menu-

A WIP is still a WIP.
Until I get a chance to mess around with the finished product, my preference is for the current UI

Tue, 04/02/2013 - 05:39

#13

Xxpapaya

The papaya agrees

Signed,
It's always nice to look back at the "old days" ^^
"A new broom sweeps clean, but an old broom knows all the corner ^^"

Tue, 04/02/2013 - 06:39

#14

Shamanalah

my 2 cents

Let's wait for the actual update and see it for yourself before wanting it back.

When the 3d model came in I asked for a "take off option" and it was never patched

There it is!

I might say "yes I want a rollback button" or I might say "it's not needed since you can mod it"

(yes you can mod it, Nick said so. But to what extend? that IDK)

Tue, 04/02/2013 - 07:10

#15

Infernoburner

Derpuraptor strikes back

Signed.
Heck, the shard bomb petition was like the most popular thread of all time and they decided to lock n' graveyard. Bah.

Tue, 04/02/2013 - 07:51

#16

Xenonguard

@Shamanala

Did you even read what I was saying? I said I wanted the option to change it back. No matter how shiny or polished the new GUI is, there will always be people who prefer the old one.

Tue, 04/02/2013 - 08:00

#17

Shamanalah

my 2 cents

@ Unstable

Maybe the new UI will improve your performance? Maybe that shiny new look will grow on you...

You don't know, it's all assumption and like Nick said, the UI will be customizable... If you want the old UI that isn't customizable and that "could" be more laggy then I don't know why you would want it

Wait before they implement it before requesting this. And it might not be possible to revert back to the old UI for any specific reasons that we might understand once we test the new UI, we don't know.

You don't know

You are saying you don't want something you don't know... well stay inside your cave and don't search for "new" and "shiny" stuff I guess...

Edit: And YOU did you even read my comment? All I'm saying is that the UI isn't implemented yet and you might like it and it might not be possible to revert back... Battle Sprites are coming, new mobs are coming, maybe new gear is coming? We don't know where OOO is going and what the UI changes will have on future updates...

Tue, 04/02/2013 - 09:41

#18

Merethif

@Shamanala

As much as I totally respect your point of view and I find it sensible and fair, you can't say we haven't see new UI yet. Yes, WIP is WIP, but the general style has been determined. Something you call shiny some may call cheap.

I like changes, and I like new things. Really. But art style is just something fundamental for a video game. It's like removing chibi style of characters. For me changing UI art style is like changing SK soundtrack. The game would never be the same without "retro-arcade" compositions by Harry Mack. The new soundtrack may have been "new" and "shiny" but still I would miss the one we have atm.

That said, even though I'm not really into new UI, I doubt that idea of two swappable UIs is a good one (for reasons mentioned by Little-Juances in post #7).

Of course I've already made a back-up of all UI art and I'm gonna replace new PNG with old ones when they eventually arrive at my disk. Yes it is somewhat against ToS but you don't have a proof I'm doing it ;-)

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 10:59

#19

Xspiral-Ace

I wanna be a part of this petition.

I witnessed a video of the RSS bomb and I believe it was useful to deal with long ranged enemies and strong enemies. RSS sniping, pure creativity…
~Signed by: Xspiral-Ace

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 11:03

#20

Snowdusk

Finally, someone who can agree on the new shard bombs.

For the sake of complaining people, I'll +1 to this.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 11:05

#21

Sareth

I'm so with this.
Personally I think the new UI is a pain to use and look at.
For god sake, I should've made a clean back-up of the pre-patch SK, maybe you could've modded it in...

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 11:13

#22

Filexis

Lets do this. Highly doubting that this will happen, but hey, it's always best to stay optimistic

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 11:19

#23

Thimol

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This thread was doomed from the point you put "PETITION" in the title.

but as long as the opportunity to see my name is someone else's post still exists, why don't I just

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 11:36

#24

Gravelord-Caste

As long as I don't get banned

I'll sign.

The new UI is intrusive.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 11:37

#25

Oatmonster

Lick Number 58425

Signed.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 11:56

#26

Zephyrgon

I don't really like the new UI because i hate getting used to new things...

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:25

#27

Bluencool

Though a guildmate said it would cause problems, I want this to happen if possible. I never realized that we had a great UI before the patch.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 13:40

#28

Spold

Here's my signature.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 14:32

#29

Oneerranttwitch

mainly because the changes were unnecessary. designers were paid to design it and programmers were paid to implement it. Total waste.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 15:15

#30

Bacon-Strip

+1 Does this include fixing

Does this include fixing the changed damage animation (pips fly out differently) and the horrid screen shake when you take damage?

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 16:54

#31

Burq

Signing this as hard as I can.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 04:07

#32

Hardfault

I was just telling my friends that we need to sign a petition when i saw this. Way to go guys, we might be able to do this! I definitely think we need an option of both UI's. Come ON OOO, we all know you guys can do it so just PLEASE give us a choice. I really love this game, but the new UI is just depressing me :/

P.S I sign myself in as well

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 08:33

#33

Nuntis

Count me in.

Sat, 04/06/2013 - 07:55

#34

Kamishinlnoyari

Lets switch to the old UI

Sat, 04/06/2013 - 08:21

#35

Arilys

I'll gladly sign this.

I find the new UI intrusive and more confusing than the old one (And the patch notes say that it's supposed to be SIMPLER). So unless OOO plans on fixing this new UI a bit (make the knight portrait smaller and add the Energy and Crown amount on something that doesn't require us to open a menu, for starters), I'd rather have the possibility to change between the new and old UIs.

It's not that I don't like change, I just don't like changes that mess up what was working well :I

Also:

@Shamanala

"Maybe the new UI will improve your performance? Maybe that shiny new look will grow on you..."

Haha, no. The new UI actually worsened my performance. And I have a friend that had his computer overheating because of it too. And the new shiny look is a bit off. Probably a bit too shiny, actually.

Sat, 04/06/2013 - 17:21

#36

Reddinferno

I love Spiral Knights, I've been playing it for a while now and the new UI is really cool but there are some things we like to keep because either we are use to it or we are just some old fashion people who like to keep it that way

Sat, 04/06/2013 - 22:45

#37

Rogdon

I can't see my crowns! +1

Signed and signed. It bothers me to no end that I can't just look over and see how many crowns I have. I don't want to have to open my inventory to see that, I just want to see it!

Sat, 04/06/2013 - 23:18

#38

Troupe-Forums

Yes please

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 11:13

#39

Yononaka

Signed, totally a good idea. And the new UI is a lot more ressource-intensive for slow computers

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 11:39

#40

Arkate

I for one, hate the new interface. In a game which I used to be able to play lag-free, it makes my framerate drop to about 10% of what I used to have. The new interface also looks incomplete. For example, the shield bar has no outline on it. Also, I can't just say how many bloody crowns I can spend without having to open my inventory. I am sure there are those who enjoy the new one, but I prefer the old.

+9001.

Tue, 04/09/2013 - 10:21

#41

Reto-Da-Liz

+1 because I hate everything about the new UI.

Sat, 04/13/2013 - 09:07

#42

Bulby

Please take a look at this petition as well. It has a lot of things in common and is a feature worth considering.

Sat, 04/13/2013 - 12:56

#43

Dagunner

Add me to the list

Sat, 04/13/2013 - 12:56

#44

Dagunner

Add me to the list

Sat, 04/13/2013 - 13:18

#45

Ewbte

add me too, and check this node/78613, it is about UI too.

Sat, 04/13/2013 - 14:31

#46

Xenonguard

@Ewbte

Isn't it really the same as Bulby's thread?

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 00:27

#47

The-Mighty-Potato

I support this petition, I dislike the new UI although I like seeing the monsters health bar.

Thu, 05/02/2013 - 23:22

#48

Vovius-Sol

Signing

I hate new UI. Can't say it doesn't match the overall design, but for me it seems very alien, unfinished, and more importantly - useless.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 01:36

#49

Xxpapaya

The papaya giggles

[Stupid comment used to be here :P]

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 05:16

#50

Aveond

sign/+1

+1, I wanna use the old-skool one.

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Petition: Add the option to toggle between the classic GUI and the new one.