You ruined it by adding the crafting limitation. Good job.

@ randomfkl

It means that the whole market for fausts, silversix's, etc. is now entirely dead. The same for all other 4*. It also means that f2p gamers are royally screwed.

I fail to see how it royally screws f2p gamers when CE is openly traded. If that stops, yes, there'd be problems, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

If by "awesome" you mean "ridiculous".. then you are right, sir. I think this is the update that makes me stop playing... the crafting limitation is stupid!

I'll tell you the reasoning of the crafting limitations & CE raise:

They want more money, and less players.

*reads the patch notes*

Well... That's... disappointing. My guild actually has people who happily level up 4 star equipment to craft the 5 star stuff they know (like wise owlite to grey owlite shield). I considered this community sharing a positive thing. I also enjoyed purchasing higher star items from people so I didn't have to buy the recipes myself. As well, a friend of mine did crafting for me. We'd share resources and get better gear as a result.

I also don't approve of the "you can't buy from Basil, nyah" change either. All this does is PROMOTE mail fraud by having other people buy recipes while they sit at Basil, receiving money and mailing off recipes (or, not...). This solves nothing in my opinion.

Honestly, changes of THIS nature should have been discussed with the community first.

Addendum:
Actually with regards to the "mail order recipes", it makes things worse. Not only do you not know if someone is actually at Basil with this fantastic array of 5 star recipes you want, giving money to people by mail is not something the GMs can provide support for. But you know that people are going to be calling on more GMs for this because "I paid him for a recipe but he never gave it to me!". This is going to make in game support worse. The only way to stop this issue from happening is to prevent the trading of recipes, but then you're going to screw over one of the primary functions of the auction house.

The Faust / Avenger market etc. Was already dead.

moving on. I think the auction house was a huge necessity, and will be a great success.

The restriction of not being able to sell high star gear is curious, I guess it makes it harder to obtain, but at the same time, will be interesting to see.
Also might increase the price of lesser gear with better UVs...

@ Paska

You must not play the same SK as i do. Seeing as i see people selling dozens of fausts daily.

* Using a bound items in alchemy will result in the finished product being bound as well. For example, crafting a 4* item that requires a item of heat level 5 will result in an item that is bound to the crafter.

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Eury keeps sending people here for all feedback on the patch, so here goes.

I hate the change to crafting where items stay bound. You just screwed over every crafter in the community.

I don't think my crafting detracted from your income. On the contrary, it raised it. People like Delcore were buying energy just to buy items from people like me. With us gone, they will stop. I also spent several hundred thousand crowns on recipes that I had no intention of EVER making for myself. Now those recipes are worthless.

Great job.

More over, I am furious that you made this change without notice. I have items I was crafting for people where I've already taken materials and money that I will not be unable to deliver or refund. Thanks a lot.

It says it will cost more energy to craft AND re-crafted items will still be bound to you? Now the CE price will shoot up for crafting, and the mats will drop becuase you cant make money of built weapons. Sucks for free players, cause thats the best way to get money for the soon-too-be more expensive CE. I should just go play league of legends...

So Jelly runs for the antiqua's and sealed swords are pretty much useless? Damn wasted my tokens on antiquas now that I can't sell them :/

This is complete BS. If the powers that be wanna go change something to the game as fundamental as trading and heating items they should give us warning. I just wasted 1000 CE trying to get a UV on a shield for a friend who already has the recipes, so she can heat and upgrade it for me. Not to sell,but for my use. And now all those rare mats and ce is just gone? How about a little warning so people can finish what they already had in the works before. And some compensation for those of us getting royally screwed.

oops double post, my mouse suxx : P

This is the kind of changes that kill a game. Instead of promiting the interaction between players creating a very interesting economy in the process, you increased the annoyance and grind factor by a huge margin.

You want us to buy more from you (and i have, a lot of us have), but this was a low move. We expected you to improve the market, not to kill it. Now you force us to grind and die of borement.

I'm not spending a dime on this thing.

Damn...shoulda crafted all my 4*'s sitting at lvl 10.

I'm just wondering how the UV market will turn out..

Edit: Woah this thread blew up fast. @ Devs: Better equip your Firebreak Shields with Max Fire UV's..

Let's analyze the new crafting rule:

As someone stated in this thread, I can see why the decision to not allow players to trade high end gear was made. This game is built around farming for gear and allowing people to buy 5* gear defeats the purpose of the game. (I have a friend who we constantly bash on because he spent an undisclosed amount of IRL cash to buy a full set of 5* then quits shortly after)

Now... Some of you will say that this kills the game economy and that no one will be able to sell any weapons anymore. However, you fail to realize that people will continue to buy MATERIALS. Obviously, the prices of materials will rise dramatically due to the fact that we cannot sell weapons anymore. Not only that, it will rise even more so for materials for weapons like Avenger and Faust where people who want UVs are forced to farm for it themselves rather than rely on others.

Very bad news, unless I see PvP or new boss anytime soon Im quitting this game, AH? whats the point now. Training grounds? really, Im very dissapointed right now.

Hate it. "Heres your auction house that you've allll been waiting forever for!...btw we made it useless in the same update. "

With the new crafting limitations, really the auction house is useless. By adding these limitations you're going to make buying CE useless because people cant use it to buy the items they want, many players will be be upset that they can no longer sell there 4 and 5* gear, and you're making it much harder to play for the players. The auction house is good, but only if the limitations are removed can we fully enjoy it. Please, don't limit the item crafting.

Yay 800 energy to make 5* items.

5000 cr 800 ce? totally awesome update indeed.. Try to play without paying now!!! hahaha

I don't like the update to bound crafting either, for a simple reason. There's been two ways to hunt for UVs: craft a zillion low level items, and sell the fails below cost; or, craft up through the whole chain and sell the 5* 'failure' for a profit. Now there's only one way: throw away tons of money.

Of course, it works out great for Three Rings, it'll create a very newbie-affordable environment and a very expensive high-level item environment, and the change is early enough in the games life that people won't even care in a few months, but to me, right now, it smacks of heavy-handed profiteering, ensuring that there's going to be tons of wasted low level swords that nonetheless cost CE to make. (I'm pretty certain there's enough UV searching to overwhelm the auction house with more 2* swords than will ever be sold, maybe 2* everything.)

Although if I'm totally honest and look past my own play preferences, I can see that players were never intended to be able to buy into top-level gear on day 1 and this helps curb that problem. Since the gear -is- the character - all your 'character sheet' powers come from gear, not character stats - allowing people to buy into 5* on day 1 is like allowing them to buy into a level 36 paladin on day 1 in a D&D based game. ('fraid I haven't played WoW to give a more contemporary simile... )

Anyway, from the notes, I like almost everything else about this update except the bound items crafting. Especially the fixes on basil ports and JK runs which always smacked of exploit to me anyway. Sorry 'bout that to those of you who were enjoyably profiting from them, but thems the breaks in the name of game balance just like the one that's bruising me.

@Eurydice & nick: You're locking other threads because this is the feedback thread, but if this is the -update- feedback thread generally, it's wrongly titled, though the text does invite feedback on the rest of the update.

all in all the change regarding the disposition of bound items is not only ridiculous but has the potential to drive a good number of people away from this game. There are alot of people that were crafting items that were 4 and 5 star for other people since the recipes were so hard to find. I myself have been looking for the last month for the dragon scale armor. When you couple that with the fact that more than half the time I hit the midpoint terminal there is nothing that is 5 star in the way of recipes couple that with not being able to get the item from someone else and that may end this game for me. I don't mind hard but make it close to impossible for me to progress even somewhat slowly and I will go find something else to do rather than waste the time and cash here.
-Starwolf

Honestly, I don't even care about 4*s and 5*s being bound right now.

But I just checked my recipes for 5*s.

800CE crafting cost.

400CE for 4*.

200CE for 3*.

...No. Just no. This won't ever work.

Congratulations on rushing a major change that will certainly make you lose several players. Any kind of player that did not purchase any CE before seeing this will be incredibly turned off and will most likely abandon the game. Or the rare ones will actually purchase CE for this. But this is just plain ridiculous.

Those ridiculous prices won't save the game from the problem of the ease of getting to endgame. I mean, they will, but the counter effects they'll cause will be much more serious.

Listen. To. Your. Freaking. Players.
And stop. Attempting. Ridiculous. Balancing. On your own.