Uh... your math is REALLY wrong.
Its not 98x500
Its (98/5)x500
Which is only 9800.
Still a lot, but nowhere near your projected 48K.
lets fix this shining/radiant fire crystal glitch already
Fri, 10/18/2013 - 14:41
#102
@Dean-Zane
Fri, 10/18/2013 - 15:19
#103
dafuq
Now it is:
19 / 20 / 21 / 22 / 24 / 25 / 26 / 27 = Shining
28 = mix of Shining/Radiant
Nope, o 19 floor is mix glowing/shining... This is madnes! (No, this is Spartaaaaaa!). How can I heat up my 5* set when only aviliable radiants ar on 28 floor (and not so much, from 6 to 9)...
Fri, 10/18/2013 - 15:43
#104
my 2 cents
Love the Steam Graph
Can I have the Kongregate, Aeriagames and Spiral Knights own website graph too?
Fri, 10/18/2013 - 16:35
#105
@Skepticraven
@Skepticraven
Challenge mode seems to be new PvP mode. So no Radiant Crystals out there.
Fri, 10/18/2013 - 18:27
#106
Actually,
For once noobies that are dedenders like me can catch up now!
Fri, 10/18/2013 - 18:32
#107
@Merethif
"Challenge mode seems to be new PvP mode. "
Wat?
In addition to the exciting features we have planned for the Arcade and Rank Missions, we're busy working on an all-new 'challenge mode' that will allow players to work as a team in cooperative scenarios and compete with other teams for a high score. Challenge mode will also feature rewards for those that really excel.
Cooperative scenarios =/= PvP.
Sat, 10/19/2013 - 08:21
#108
Day 3 post-patch and still no
Day 3 post-patch and still no radiant or explanation...
Sat, 10/19/2013 - 09:17
#109
@Merethif
It may have leaderboards, but for some reason I don't think theyll convert the arcade into a PvP area with that term "cooperative". I don't consider leaderboards PvP either.
Sat, 10/19/2013 - 10:26
#110
@Khamsin
@Khamsin
I know that and of course I don't know whether it really will be PvP or not, thus I used term "seems". Personally I think it will be third coliseum game. But this is of course just personal impression and I might be totally wrong.
@Skepticraven
I don't think they will convert the Arcade into a PvP area neither. But in Nick's post there's nothing about Challenge Mode being part of Arcade. Actually Nick stated that they working on it "in addition" to all new features for Arcade and Missions. I'm not native English speaker so maybe that's the problem, but I have read this as: Apart of new features we have planned for the Arcade and Rank Missions, we're working on Challenge Mode. I had an impression that Challenge Mode is entirely different and separate thing that Arcade Redux.
Sat, 10/19/2013 - 10:29
#111
@Merethif
"I know that and of course I don't know whether it really will be PvP or not, thus I used term "seems". Personally I think it will be third coliseum game. But this is of course just personal impression and I might be totally wrong."
In addition to the exciting features we have planned for the Arcade and Rank Missions, we're busy working on an all-new 'challenge mode' that will allow players to work as a team in cooperative scenarios and compete with other teams for a high score. Challenge mode will also feature rewards for those that really excel.
Cooperative scenarios =/= PvP.
What is so hard to understand Merethif?
Sat, 10/19/2013 - 10:47
#112
Er... nothing?I'm just
Er... nothing?
I'm just saying that I read Nick's Post as Challenge Mode being another PvP mode. Like Lockdown or Blast Network.
Lockdown and Team BN, both "allow players to work as a team in cooperative scenarios and compete with other teams for a high score".
Sat, 10/19/2013 - 10:39
#113
Maharito +1
I am mostly a Prestiege Mission player. I am SICK of running FSC every. Damned. Day. I refuse to run FSC JUST so I can continue heating my gear.
It's already hard enough to earn the 453 Radiant Fire Crystals per gear without running FSC. Pre-patch I would catch 4* Fire Crystals in Strata 4 and 5* Fire Crystals in Strata 5-6. That was slow but doable. Now I'm only seeing 5* Fire in Depth 25+. This is awful!!
PLEASE FIX! This is FRUSTRATING!
Sat, 10/19/2013 - 10:43
#114
@Merethif
English isn't your first language, so it is understandable you don't know the meaning of cooperation vs competition.
cooperation: an act or instance of working or acting together for a common purpose or benefit; joint action.
This is equivalent to running the arcades or missions.
compete: To strive against another or others
This is Blast Network or Lockdown.
Cooperative scenarios = working as a team. You work as a team, and then when you're done, your SCORE competes with other scores. Meaning it is PvE.
Sat, 10/19/2013 - 10:42
#115
cmon guys, lets try to stay on topic so a mod read it
right now we are starting our 4th day with this horrible drought on radiant crystals, and we still dont even know why its happening
my friend also got threatened an ingame perm ban because he was "talking down about the devs" when all he did was say that they made the wrong move by doing this
theyre obviously hiding something from us, and im thinking head of productions has something BIG planned because they give us all the same message in the support portals
hopefully this "big" something is good and not gamebreaking
unfortunately however, since 50% of my gameplay was lvling 5* items up, and they wasted the last 4 days of my heat amp, ive decided to competely quit the game until this is fixed, but im checking the forums, and checking if steam is applying any patches
perhaps its a glitch they cant fix and they dont want to admit it? who knows, but i want my radiants back is all
Sat, 10/19/2013 - 10:49
#116
@Khamsin
I know what cooperation and competition means, but you can have team of players who cooperate as a team, but at the same time their team compete with other teams. Both Lockdown and Blast Network include cooperation because you play as team (apart Free-for-all BN mode of course) and have to cooperate with other players in your team to score.
Cooperative scenarios =/= PvP, but Cooperative scenarios, where players are gathered in teams that compete with other teams for scores = PvP
Or am I wrong?
Sat, 10/19/2013 - 10:51
#117
STOP GETTING OFF TOPIC
IF YOURE GOING TO GABBER ABOUT SOMETHING THAT ISNT FIRE CRYSTAL RELATED START A NEW THREAD
im trying to get a mods attention with this, or just other players actual opinions on this drought, if all you guys do is get off topic, im gonna delete the thread, because youre all rediculously off topic at this point
+1 to chesshire btw, theyre still on topic, and theyre looking for explanation, but all off topicers are making this thread completely useless to them
sorry if i sound over bearing, but READ THE THREAD TOPIC
it isnt hard people, respect threads so that people can find usefulness in them
Sat, 10/19/2013 - 10:53
#118
Heeeeeeey.
OP replied.
Sat, 10/19/2013 - 10:55
#119
^^^^
? xD more elaboration on that would be nice....
Sat, 10/19/2013 - 10:56
#120
@Tduder
@Tduder
Calm down man. My sincere apology. End of off-topic - we shall see what Challenge Mode will be after all.
And I am supporting your case. I've even suggest some solution in this thread already.
+1 to fixing the issue mentioned by OP :-D
Sat, 10/19/2013 - 10:57
#121
khamsin, the fact that in LD everyone is a soloer depends on the LD community. BN, it's because we can't be in our teammates minds to aviod our own explosions. PvP, unless it 1vs1, it's cooperation too.
Sat, 10/19/2013 - 10:59
#122
@Mere
The word cooperative would be redundant then, if the implication was only that you were on a team, since teams by nature cooperate. In this case, the cooperative is describing the scenario itself, not the nature of the team.
Sat, 10/19/2013 - 10:59
#123
ya sorry i get a little freaky outy
im just really frustrated with our lack of radiants, i dont mean any disrespect to you guys
its been really hard for me to enjoy this game with this sever handicap on 5* items now tho
so ya, sorry ive been a little bit of a crapsack, ill try to conduct myself a little better
Sat, 10/19/2013 - 11:51
#124
Radiants
I found 3 radiants on D27 of KoA. So actually, there's two floors you can get them at the moment.
Sat, 10/19/2013 - 13:09
#125
"Bright light! Bright light!"
@See-One
"Day 3 post-patch and still no radiant or explanation..."
Guess you didn't see Movinfusion posting this in the first page of the thread:
"Greetings,
We typically make minor adjustments to drop rates and locations as part
of our ongoing management of the game. Some variation should be expected.
Best wishes,
- Hyperion"
That was a reply to a support ticker that Movinfusion made. I guess we should start praying to Vog that the new levels and T3 boss get implemented soon, and that they drop loads of Radiant Crystals.
In the meantime Imma level the stuff on my collection that I didn't level yet so I could actually craft the stuff that I'm still missing.
Sat, 10/19/2013 - 16:28
#126
@Arilys I guess you missed my
@Arilys I guess you missed my post on page 2, where I addressed that and said this in response:
Sorry but basically not being able to level up any 5 star items is ***NOT*** a "minor adjustment" in any way, shape or form!!!
And I stand by that statement 100%, because this is a huge game-changing (breaking) "adjustment". Also, I sure don't consider a highly generic response to someone else's support ticket "an explanation". Therefore, we are at day 3 or 4 and still no explanation. Newer players are unable to get their stuff to level 10 like experienced players have, and are at a significant disadvantage in lockdown.
Please don't interpret this post as having a go at you (or OOO for that matter), that wasn't the intention. I'm just frustrated having seen some friends stop playing and newer players constantly asking where the radiants are.
Sat, 10/19/2013 - 16:39
#127
What was wrong with the old system? Strata 3-4 dropped glowing crystals and elite orbs so you could heat your 3* items and craft them to 4*, gaining access to tier 3. Strata 5 dropped shining crystals and eternal orbs so you could heat up your 4* items and craft them up into 5* (so you can access the later missions), and strata 6 dropped radiant crystals so that once you unlocked those missions you could heat your 5*.
Now, the progression is broken, with knights not being able easily to obtain the orb and crystal types appropriate for their level. Prior to the update, shining crystals were never rare if you took the time to play strata 5 missions. I played Weight of Darkness during the Kat event, and accrued almost 3k shining crystals. As one poster said, they're only rare if all you play is FSC.
Please return the old level-drop tables, or at least shift it back closer to what it was.
Side note: I have never seen monsters drop anything other than consumables, crowns and heat. If they do drop items or rarities, then the rate is so low as to be negligible.
Sun, 10/20/2013 - 03:24
#128
"Water... gun"
@See-One
Ah, I did miss that post of yours. And yes, I understand it's annoying; I have some 5 star stuff stuck at random levels because I can't bother going through FSC to get the most Radiant crystals from the boxes after Vanaduke (since normal D28 levels in the Arcade give even less Radiants). As for an "explanation"... OOO is bad at that. We'll only get something like that once they release some patch that's actually directly related to the Crystals or something.
Either that or they give us a recipe to upgrade Shining crystals to Radiants to "fix" the issue while they work on that new boss (I'm still hoping they'll make Radiants more common there, since it's supposed to be set after the FSC "story arc"). But I doubt that. And I doubt the crafting costs would be that cheap.
Sun, 10/20/2013 - 04:03
#129
@Arilys
I believe new boss will be set after the FSC "story arc" in the same way IMF is set after Royal Jelly "story arc". Technically it's still the same depth and the same crystals drop rate. So I wouldn't hope for new boss having different loot then FSC.
So the only solution is to bring more Radiant Crystals to Stratum 6. C'mon OOO, at least two final depths should have Radiant Crystals guarantee (but since whole T3 have 9 playable depths I'm still convinced that 4 Shining/1 Mix/4 Radiant pattern would make perfect balanced)
Sun, 10/20/2013 - 04:29
#130
"Bright light! Bright light!"
@Merethif
I'm aware of that. I just want to hope that Radiants will become more common again on something OOO might add soon (or "soon", if we're not so lucky :I).
If OOO decides to crush my dreams, though... well, I'll start hoping even more that they change it to what you suggest there :p
Sun, 10/20/2013 - 09:52
#131
Awesome.
Now I no longer have to worry about farming Eternals because of all the Shining Crystals I'm getting.
Now my Level 10 4* gear will always be better than my 5* gear because I can't upgrade it the 5* items I have.
No more need to play the game past 4* now.
Well done! /clap
Sun, 10/20/2013 - 10:49
#132
"Gizmoooo!"
@Dibsville
Actually, you can still upgrade Helms and Armours (Not sure about shields). There's a thread floating about somewhere (I tried to find it, but I failed miserably) where some players found out that there's a difference of just 1 or 2% extra defence between a level 1 and level 10 piece of gear. Weapons, on the other hand, get visibly more powerful at higher levels (And they also get the CTR low bonus from level 5 to 9 and CTR med at level 10), so you should probably leave those at 4 star until this whole Radiant Fire Crystal drama gets sorted.
Sun, 10/20/2013 - 11:48
#133
@Arilys
Thank you, and I suppose I should have been more specific. I was mostly just directing that towards weapons.
Increasing Helms and Armours still have the effect of extra Health Pips and set bonuses (Ex. Miracle to Chaos), so upgrading those are still somewhat useful. However, I don't really see the point of upgrading weapons and certain shields past their 4* Variant right now (I guess there are a few stark exceptions, namely Barbarous Thorn Shield, but that's honestly all I can think of), because as I recall a 4* weapon at Level 10 is as good as the 5* version of the same weapon at around Level 5, and at around that point you need significantly more Radiants to continue upgrading.
Edit: I suppose Bombs are another thing that are worth upgrading past 4*, simply because of the extra range.
Mon, 10/21/2013 - 08:28
#134
@Dibsville
Regarding bombs it's an awkward trade-off between lvl 10 4* you have damage and CTR med but with lvl 1 5* you get a little more area.
Mon, 10/21/2013 - 14:27
#135
To the ADMIN
We are completely unaware of what it really is, if a bug or a permanent update, so I turn to the admin, of which I have not seen any post on this topic, give us an explanation, PLEASE!
Mon, 10/21/2013 - 15:28
#136
"Water... gun"
@Scavalcacinghie
It seems to be permanent.
By the way, are you new here? Because asking for GMs/Devs to explain stuff like this... It's no use!
Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:00
#137
@Arilys
GAAAAAGGGHHHHHHHH! Sonic '06! The memories, the memories! AAAAAUUUUUGGGHH!
Mon, 10/21/2013 - 19:39
#138
You know what would fix this in my mind?
Have Danger Missions cover floors 26-28. Badabing, badaboom, problem solved. You can't farm tons of Radiants but you can still get a healthy number every day. Keep interest in buying Radiants but also permit actual farming.
Make it happen, OOO!
Wed, 10/23/2013 - 13:51
#139
Update?
Anyone know if today's update has resolved this issue? I saw the release notes "orb and spark drop rates"...
--Cheshireccat
Wed, 10/23/2013 - 14:08
#140
This is still broken. The D28
This is still broken. The D28 arena my party did ended with all members getting between 6-15 Radiant fire crystals.
Mon, 10/28/2013 - 09:32
#141
Nobody is gonna fix it.
OOO wants money, and they are gonna squeeze it out of you.
Can't blame them, and even though the situation doesn't really affect me now, drop rate reduction is never a good thing for players.
Mon, 10/28/2013 - 13:52
#142
So I confirmed OCH still
So I confirmed OCH still drops lots of Radiants. Early levels still drop shining, but ended up getting 15 radiants in the last three levels (I saw three because the boss breaks up treasure levels)
So if you want easy assured radiants, you need to pay for the expansion.... riiiiiiiight.....
Mon, 10/28/2013 - 16:58
#143
@Heroshian: Thanks for the report
This is encouraging news, however, that Radiant-obtaining methods still exist and that we may get reasonable amounts now (and probably in other ways in the future).
Now I can get that Forge icon to stop bugging me!!
Mon, 10/28/2013 - 18:02
#144
OCH should be on sale eventually
If this problem isn't fixed, at least it's good to know OCH will be on sale for Steam eventually (through Daily Deal or site-wide Sale)
Mon, 10/28/2013 - 23:16
#145
@Minker
Actually, you can get it already:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/206521/
Or are you referring to them trying to make the energy option available to Steam players?
Tue, 10/29/2013 - 11:33
#146
@Maharito
I knew that already, but I don't want to pay full price (money doesn't grow on tree you know). I buy most of my games when they're on sale. Crimson will be on sale again eventually.
Tue, 10/29/2013 - 11:59
#147
Why dont we wait until
Why dont we wait until November 3rd to complain about the shining crystals? The path notes said that Obsidian box and Dark harvest will end november 3rd, which might also revert the Crystal droppings.
At that time, we will find out if either :
1) OOO planned this and made more shinies drop so people could heat necessary prerequisites for the obsidian weapons and had ample time to do it, or
2) More likely, they did something else completely idiotic and thoght Radiants were a myth.
I personally think its the forst option. But knowing the developer decisions, the second path would not surprise me in the slightest. If only Bethesda took over...
Tue, 10/29/2013 - 13:15
#148
What Rezzler said
I'm just going to post this link whenever people kep talking about this:
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/91997#comment-818966
Fri, 11/01/2013 - 11:28
#149
It's ridiculous, i haven't
It's ridiculous, i haven't found any radiants since the update, and i've been playing normally daily. Was this because people couldn't find enough shining ones? 'Cause the reason for that is because no-one ever bothered to look outside of firestorm citadel. There was plenty already, they were just in heavy demand.
Sat, 11/02/2013 - 14:27
#150
"If only Bethesda took
"If only Bethesda took over..."
I can imagine the game having 1000x deeper lore and storyline with much more attention to detail.
I love SK the way it is right now but that would be amazing.
OOO should have said that this was coming though. this full would have happened a lot before, and the ragers would have startd in the mid and maybe encounter some past opposition. like this is just a flood.
3rd page FTW, btw.