I have been sending in reports on the fact that I haven't seen ANY radiant crystal drop in over 2 months. Not I have only found a few or I don't play lvl 28 or fsc or Sl, but I the fact that I do these on a daily basis and not found 1 SINGLE radiant crystal. The responses I have received are too bad, you must be unlucky or go buy them. In the last response I told them I was going to go to the forums and try to see if other players are having the same issue or if it is only me. So here I am.
Is anyone else as fed up as me of having multiple weapons and gear stuck at the beginning of 5 star that can't be leveled. It has gotten to the point I don't even like stepping on the arsenal platforms at the begging of the lvl b/c all it does is remind me of the fact I can't do anything with these. I think buying radiants for their outrageous price is not a viable answer.
Pls comment here if you are as frustrated as me so they can see I'm not the only one. It is too the point all I care to do is play PVP b/c everything else seems like a waste of time.
We deserve answers, even if we won't like them.
mine started shortly before halloween, I consider that October and now that it is the 20th of November I rounded it to two months. but really the exact dates are not what I'm here to discuss
Yes there is a shortage yoyr not alone. Also game devs have said nothing on the matter seeing as there are way more posts aboit this then needed sonce people don't seem to look for similar posts before making their own. Long story short it may be a bug ot may not and the devs are not talking you'll just have to wait it out.
You are not the first one who got a problem with heating 5 star things.
Right now there are many people beeing stuck with this and get only a low increase of radiants.
I can tell for myselfe, that I didn't get any radiants from the arcade after that change, but from a Vana-run I did always get at least 3 radiants (maybe 1-2 runs that did not give any radiants out of 20 runs). The usual outcome of a Vana-run is 3-9 radiants, if you are lucky even 36 radiants are possible. The highest ammount i experienced was 21 though.
The fact that you didn't get even one radiant seems to be impossible, unless... you play only with a low difficulty.
I can only tell you about elite difficulty since I only do FSC runs with elite difficulty; maybe adcanced, if no elite groups are ready.
I recommend you to join an open FSC group with elite difficulty - the radiant reward isn't that great but it is better than nothing after all and you make at least some progress.
Normal difficulty only makes sense, if you only do FSC for Vana torkens.
I started this because I want this to a place for people to put their frustrations about it. I know it has been a shortage for a while that isn't my problem. I only play these lvls on elite and like I said have not found ANY. I too think this is unusual and I was wondering if others have had this same issue. I am happy for those of you who are still finding them even a few at a time. But to find none seems strange and I was hoping some other players may be experiencing this too and wanted to make a place for us to try and find out why.
We are all frustrated about it and their silence is like a big "nananana we know its wrong but we're not going to tell you why it is wrong so you'll just have to be mad for months until we release some deeper depths where radiants drop like Miley Cyrus' rear end."
I know we are frustrated and we hope they will add drops to extra lvls but that was not mentioned in the update thread, that I saw, so do we know that will be the fix? or will we get extra lvls and still have this BS to deal with because if that is the case screw the new lvls. It seems to me like they are saying hey look at these pretty lvls and forget about the fact we are screwing you over with the crystals. If this is just a way to get money and e out of the game just tell us. At this point I would be ok with the ability to craft lower crystals into radiants even if it is a crazy number. I have thousands of shining crystal that I'm not going to do anything with b/c I no longer see the point in crafting new items. Thanks for all the responses but so far no one else is in the same boat as me, strange
Swim in the Radiants lurking within your friendly local Shadow Lair.
anyone else?
I'm on the S.S. Shining&Lovin'It.
It runs on friendship & Energy.
Mostly Energy.
Radiants need time to breed to multiply their numbers
I have three (soon to be four) 5* items I need to heat but I can't due to lack of sufficient drops. Or any drops in some cases. And the Supply Depot is overpriced; 700 Energy for 50 Radiants? Actually laughed when I first saw that.
This is payback for free lifts. Coercion to purchase energy for real money or play continuously and save crowns.
OR
This problem will solve with next update.
I think it maybe their way of correcting free elevators but if this is the case the need to be up front and honest with players. If they did tell me that though I can honestly say my game time would be spent somewhere else.
Hi misty long time no see how are the tectonics these days. I try and stay in touch with a few of the old guild mates. I too laughed out loud when i saw the ridiculous price for radiants.
How do ya'll feel about if the let us craft radiants even if it took a crazy amount of shining to make one. I think I would be happy with a 10 or even 20 to 1 ratio. I'm hoping the admins will get to our forum page and realize this no Raidant drop is both BS and unacceptable.
I am going to keep this thread going until they fix the "problem" or get made and send me to the graveyard. But at this point I think my time is better spent in here than playing the arcade looking for something I have now accepted I will never see again.
Stick it to the man Geuu! I stand with you!
Lanieu I truly hope if nothing else this thread might lead to us getting some straight answers. If you can tell your fellow guild-mates and players to log onto the forum and comment here. They have pretty much told me they will not address this unless enough players get together and tell them. I have made the thread now I need ya'll to spread the word.
If OOO did nothing about drop rates when they were first released, every complaint about Radiants would be replaced with Shinings.
If they did this out of spite, I applaud them.
Please explain this comment I do not understand
Prior to the "October patch" that "adjusted drop rates", Shining Crystals were quite literally impossible to find. All you would find are Radiant Crystals. People complained day and night about this.
When OOO released the downgrade recipes, I blew a whole bunch of crowns turning my stockpile of 2000+ Radiants into a bunch of Shinings. Do I regret this? Yes. Is it of my own fault? Again, yes. Do people still complain? Yes. Are Shadow Lairs not only fun and currently the best way to obtain Radiants? I think you get where I'm going with this.
She means that people kept asking OOO to increase the Shining Crystals from dropping, over & over.
OOO updates the game with Shinings being common & Radiants rare.
People ask OOO to increase the Radiants from dropping.
She's saying that OOO made Radiants rare on purpose.
EDIT: Sniped.
before the october patch you could farm shining in fsc and JK very easily I had over 1k multiple times, never had trouble finding them. I'm sorry you blew you stash on them. This goes back to the question that I put out there about a way to craft radiant from shining even if it was at a pretty high exchange rate. I agree with you that buyin shadow keys are probably a better deal than buying radiant from the depot but making radiants only avail in shaow lairs is alright as long as they are up front about it and stop telling me to play lvl 28 more or buy them which is what the mods told me.
Thanks for your input though I hope this conversation can at least clear up the bs we keep getting fed from OOO
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With all the events (hallow, apo, sales) over I find myself drifting to other games again. One of the major reasons is this radiant "adjustment". Forging and maxing out an equipment from 2*/3* to 5*, and getting rewarded with its awesomeness, was much of the fun for me.
But like someone already said, this is the way it is now, this is how they want it to be. Radiants being rare. There's no mistake or plan to change it. We'll just have to accept that.
Radiant crystals are a problem, indeed. They do drop on level 28, so you just seem to be unlucky, but their amount there is usually quite limited: 3, or, maybe, 6 is a usual yield even in FSC.
Few remedies could be really offered here. My idea is to earn crowns, convert them to energy and buy the crystals: 50-55k crowns is enough to buy the 50 piece set in the depot, and this amount lets you upgrade several items up to level 3 or 4. Then you just wait until things get changed. This drop rate modifications seem to be a part of ongoing Arcade redesign, so something must happen in the future. It might be a Forge Pass (my sweet dream), it might be the addition of new levels below 6th stratum, it might be the new Rarity Map alike to Material Map (this gate drops Shinings, that gate drops Radiants), it might be the intellectual crystal distribution system (no matter what depth you are doing, you always get crystals that correspond to the level of your gear), it might be something else. But in general I'm sure that it's all temporary, so we just have to wait and not get into too great expenses.
See I understand rare but they have become non exsistent fro me and I find it strange that only one other player has had this issue. I hate that 000 can happily except our money and then feel that is ok to make this change and not address it. How do you as players feel about that. I frankly feel cheat and upset. Like i have said before just give us a straight answer and while I really appreciate all the comments on here. They are still just what we are hoping or assuming has or will happened b/c so far we have just excepted that hey it is ok if they take our time and money and just say screw you guys, "It might be an issue", They need to take the responsibility as a corporation to give us an answer and we have the responsibility as consumers to demand one. Please have people log on to this post and ask 000 why the don't respect their players enough to tell it to us straight.
I quite honestly don't care about this change. Knowing full well that the Arcade Redux will -eventually- address this issue, and that I have more incentive to go through Shadow Lairs, and that heating 5* gear feels more like a luxury than a necessity, I can express concern for more important issues.
Such as the enemies being far too predictable and simple, weapon balance, the need for new levels, etc.
Dear god... another Radiant thread, "I'am the only one who noticed? Its only happen to me?"
Really Geuu, I've seen you a couple o time here, how cant you see all those past threads?
Its a goddamn free game and it became even more F2P since the elevators update, if they need this to make some money for the game, then be it, its not like radiants are needed for LD, and its like 10% more damage from 4* lv10 and 5* lv10.
This is actually why I'm taking a break. It depresses me to see an Obsidian Gun and a Heater Shield which both cannot be heated in the slightest.
And I'm sick of heating 4* stuff.
Notch: It's not a bug; it's a feature.
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Eric I understand your issue with a lot of post and this one is here b/c I haven't found ANY!!!...Also here to hopefully get people together to ask 000 for answers. Thank you for taking the time to share your opinion. I'm feel sorry for you if you think the answers 000 have given so far are acceptable. I agree and have switched all my time to LD b/c that is the only part of this game i enjoy any more. But i am tired of stepping on the arsenal pad and seeing 5 pieces of equipment that need to be forged and will never get it. I am also tired of not getting any real answers here. I was a paying costumer, not a lot of money but I do feel as a paying customer I am due certain explanations and 000 told me that they read these posts and take them to heart so I'm hoping this can be a place for players to come together and share their frustrations and demand answers.
i have changed the subject of this thread so hopefully people will understand that I'm not just complaining about radiant drops I am hopping we can get together and demand answers because not only do we invest money here we invest time as well
No, deal with it. Radiants are found in the boss room on elite FSC, and are found in OCH.
The radiant drought was caused by the forumers' inability to repeat the missions that gave shining fire crystals. Though you may not be the direct cause of the issue, you, as well as other players, must suffer for the mistakes the larger majority of SK players have made. Banning together to get answers is foolish if the truth is right under your noses. OOO people are working to fix the issue. Coding ain't easy, so don't pin the blame on them. SK is a F2P for the most part, and they are not obliged to answer anything you ask.
The radiant drought will most likely be fixed with the upcoming gunner update though.
No deal with it is not the answer and no they aren't found there b/c i have played those lvls multiple times on elite and not found any. and yes the are obligated because my time is worth more than money and everything you have said is your opinion which is based on nothing 000 has told us and we all know what opinions are like. I know coding is hard but answering us isn't and yes we can ban together and ask it won't hurt anything. that fact that you are just willing to roll over and take truly saddens me. I hope the drought will end but for me the has been no drought there has been famine and the answers i have received so far are beyond unacceptable.
Again i appreciate everyone's posts but please try and see that i'm not here to put anyone down or beat a dead horse, but to sincerely try and show 000 that we DO want and DESERVE a straight answer
Just want to say... Valve talks to their fans less often than OOO.
And what if they do respond? What do you expect them to say? Either they'll say that it'll be changed eventually, or they'll say that it was meant to be. Also, they DID respond to your support tickets. You just didn't like the responses.
This is BS. Before they messed up drop rates, they gave us recipes to downgrade Radiants to Shinings, because of the ability to get shinings only from a couple depths. Makes sense. But now that they've messed up the rates, there's literally no way to get radiants except from d28, and there's no way to upgrade Shinings to Radiants.
Hokay OOO, if you destroyed Radiants just because of the VERY FEW knights who couldn't shut the lips on their face and farm In Cold Blood and thought they would be killed in cold blood by 100 less crowns per depth, how 'bout a weekly rotation where one week, S6 drops Radiants and the next week, S6 drops Shinings, then repeat.
I found some Radiants on LoA today, 24 I think.
I spent around 20 sparks getting there though.
The poor radiant famine came with the first update of the "great arcade redux", without announcement, without warning. They never said if it was coming back, if they just removed them, made it harder to get them, nothing, they just dis-appeared. Clockworks science shows that radiants have been shifted down 1 stratum, which means they only exist now in D27, D28, and the non-existent S7. They also pop up in Shadow Lairs, so, we're assuming SL's are S& or deeper.
Some of us speculated they it was a glitch, some thought it was intentional to help us level up 4* weps faster for the new obsidian weapons, etc... But it never happened, they are remaining they way they are without a peep from the devs.
Same, I want answers even if they are not positive.
Honestly I was okay swimming in Radiants and having the option to downgrade them to Shinings.
I believe that when i told people that it's fine to be swimming in Radiants because you could downgrade them, I got told to STFU and GTFO, and now the same people in Zone and various other channels are complaining that there are no Radiants.
It was why we got given the downgrade recipes in the first place. Maybe OOO is laughing hysterically behind the scenes, drinking people's delicious tears.
The reason people didn't downgrade is because the 500cr cost made it more expensive than just BUYING them.
To buy:
Costs 350 Energy for 50 Shinings. 100 Energy nowadays costs about 8k, so we'll go with that.
300 Energy costs 24k
plus 50 Energy (half of 8k is 4k) which brings the cost to around 28k
To downgrade:
500 Crowns per downgrade
Get 5 Shinings per 3 Radiants.
To get 50 Shinings from Radiants, you'd need to spend 5k. That's about 3k away from 100 Energy.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but to me it looks like that it's significantly cheaper to downgrade than it is to buy them. The only way it could've been cheaper to buy them then was if the cost to buy them at the Supply Depot was much cheaper than it is now.
Could've sworn they weren't that cheap, but, eh. It still costs a truckload.
5k for 50 shinings a truckload ? really...
Get this. You need about 300 shinings to level an item with 100%-chance every time.
300/50 is 6.
6 times 5k is 30k.
Let's say the average T3 run lasts 40 minutes with ~9k each time.
That's two hours for a single 4* item, all null and void because you didn't want to run D19 decon zones and D20 treasure vaults for the same amount of time.
Let's also say you have 6 different items you want to level up; three weapons, two armor pieces, and a shield. That's 12 hours, just grinding, assuming you don't have to worry about grinding for raw heat. How much of that time is actually spent playing new levels and doing new things, rather than playing the same profitable level set over and over?
This current system is worse, obviously, but you need to consider what we had last time wasn't all sunshine and roses either.
Toxilargo runs (I forgot the mission name), usually takes around 20 minutes, if you do solo with guns only, like I used to do.
The minimum drop was 17 IIRC, and didnt even need to downgrade anything, and I upgraded-heated 5 equips at that time.
Most people are just lazy to do anything besides Vana, which payouts with Cr and Tokens as well.
Just run the Rotting Metropolis on Elite for only the first level repeatedly. Collect the dozen or so crystals, and restart the mission.
BOOM. NEXT PROBLEM.
Alright, fine, you do only a handful of level sets either way.
The radiant famine started on 10/16. That is just over a month ago.