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5* winmillion and/or 4 & 5* swiftstrike buckler

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Tue, 01/21/2014 - 19:53
Gwaino's picture
Gwaino

OK ima cut 2 da chas, I think we need a.5* winmillion (wintrillion) that is winmillion with xtra dmg and range and upgraded swiftstrike 4* called Quickstrike buckler and 5* called Ultraspeed Bucker and has ASI very high and MSI med. Im using abreviatilns cause ima on my Kindle Paperwhite so ima give more details l8r. Srsly we need these in Spiral Knights.

Tue, 01/21/2014 - 20:13
#1
Dibsville's picture
Dibsville

Winmillion is a niche weapon that is quite fun to use. Don't see why we need a 5* version.

As for Swiftstrike Buckler: no. Just no. Swiftstrike Buckler is already one of the strongest shields in the game.

While we're at it, let's buff Acheron again.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 08:28
#2
Sonosuke's picture
Sonosuke
All nonsense will break loose.

Well if we're doing nonsensical buffs, we might as well buff the other brandishes and make 4* and 5* Cautery Swords to deal more damage than Acheron.

How about a piercing valiance or a return of the Pierce Elemental AP?

Or maybe even Elemental Blast Bombs and- wait, that's not a bad idea....

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 09:46
#3
Fehzor's picture
Fehzor

Ah, winmillion. The problem isn't the 4*, its that to balance a gun-sword out, it has to suck. The attack style doesn't work and it needs a new mechanic.

My thought on swiftstrike would be-

swiftstrike 3* = current, but low speed instead of high
swiftstrike 4* = current health, but with med speed
swiftstrike 5* = current health, but with high speed, so exactly the same but "5*"

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 10:33
#4
Seiran's picture
Seiran
Well

^ I do like that idea.

unrelated:

How does Winmillion compare with other 4* swords? I know per slash at the moment, it's actually comparable to max heat WHB (at least, the first hit is stronger iirc).

To balance out its 'gun-sword' uniqueness, it's just a matter of splitting the total damage between the projectile and the slash.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 11:47
#5
Gwaino's picture
Gwaino
Nice ideas

I see your point. Well there's 50 minutes of typing on my kindle down the drain. lol
Seriously though the Spur line is underapreciated and has so much wasted potential cause it stops at 4* and if u have a Swiftstrike then you have to go through the inconveniance of getting all the materials and crowns to get a 3* shield (im going 4 the brute jelly shield so i just have to 2 more JK runs), getting the crowns to buy the recipe and buying it, getting the elite alchemy orbs (pain in the f@#!ing but) then FINALLY getting your 4* shield after taking it to level 5. Then you rinse and repeat for the 5* one. At least for 5* u can do rapid Vana runs.
It's just my opinion anyway so respectful criticism is welcomed.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 17:55
#6
Qwez's picture
Qwez

Winmillion has exact same damage as 4* cutter. As such, it is inferior in damage to the WHB. I could go check the exact difference for you right now, but I'm too lazy.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 22:58
#7
Distraptre's picture
Distraptre
....

Wait what? ASI VH on a shield ? No that's not gonna happen this will make all other shields useless

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 14:40
#8
Dibsville's picture
Dibsville

"Wait what? ASI VH on a shield ? No that's not gonna happen this will make all other shields useless"

"ASI very high and MSI med."

^ Don't forget about this little note here.

I think this guy is underestimating MSI bonuses. Ever picked up that speed buff orb? That's about MSI max. With an MSI Med shield, we can add MSI armour and the Sprite perk to it. Know what the equates to? MSI max. Oh what fun that would be. Even OOO's isn't unbalanced enough to add THAT in.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 14:49
#9
Sandwich-Potato's picture
Sandwich-Potato

The reason Swiftstrike is at 3* is because if it's 5* it gets treated as a Tier 3 grade armor, not Tier 2, and subsequently resists more damage in Tier 3. Maybe a 1*, 2*, 3* line?

Wed, 01/29/2014 - 22:03
#10
Gwaino's picture
Gwaino
ok i give up. Screw this conversation

exactly what it says up there^

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