No.1 Your video proof of the guy being banned is in no correlation with what you've said. He was banned because he acted like a scammer, of which the community has no tolerance over. It's like jailing someone for making a bomb threat joke on Facebook (Yes, it can happen, it will happen and it has happened before).

No.2 Whilst I agree that the game is like a costume party, I think most of us here know it is. Well, we couldn't care less anyway.

No.3 Sega earns all the money, OOO has to listen to them, Sega gives OOO fixed pays, it's the same thing over again.

Say what you wish, this game is, to many, fun, and people will always support games they feel are fun, no matter to what extent. Also, could you not do the dramatic "You! SEGA's fault! We must do this!" thing? We're a bunch of peers, not a group you're delivering a sales pitch to.

"Stop giving them money for doing nothing!", you say.

What, so the government can take it instead? And you DO know that they have a small developer team, and not every staff member is a coder with 30 years of technical experience, right?

And the delay in the game update is fine. I would rather have a good commission of my character that takes weeks to create rather than a 30 second pencil sketch of it, or a peanut, no matter how good the peanut is. Plus, there's this thing called balance; releasing or changing things too quickly has led to bad consequences; Chaos is rampant, the Blitz/Strike is rampant, Brandishes are rampant, health trinkets are rampant, etc.

Whereas you Twitter are already breaking the first rule of the internet; stop the repetition of those "wut unbalance" threads. Have fun.

Fashama, the issue with reskins is that it's so darn hard thinking of original gun ideas. We already have ricochet, gatling gun, standard, and cannon. What more is there that can be quickly and easily programmed in without being unbalanced?

I can't help but wonder if Fashama is a new account and that venting your anger because you made the video. :P

@OP - You sir have a serious case of obsession. Dude chill, you seriously need to take a break from the game. Live life for a change, smell the flowers, view the sky, and lessen your pathetic obsession with the game. I seriously doubt that you don't have real life stuff to do so yeah, do that and just for the mean time and w8 patiently for the update like everybody else. I know where you're coming from but you don't have to take on this kind of whinny baby attitude :/

TL;DR - No offense meant here but my advice? W.A.I.T, yes, wait... because that's really all you can do without making a fool out of yourself. Because honestly? Will it really kill you if you had to wait?

I second Bitsbee. The last thing we need is politics thrown in here.

Fashama, OOO tried that out with the Suggestions. Here's what happened.

dual wieldin plz ooo make this happen times a hundred. Same with magic.

plz ooo remove the radiants forge times thirty. Previously, with Shining.

plz ooo i want to heel my team times fifty.

People just spammed the same suggestions over and over, without paying heed to the fact that they had been repeated dozens of times. There were only a few worthwhile suggestions. The Coliseum, Guild Halls, a few new monsters, Luguiru's dictionary of a suggestion, and a few others.

Oh, also, their ban hammer is not nearly as banny as you think. No more than the government, at least.

OOO isn't the company at all making all the profit. Have you seen Nexon? Geez Louise they get so many players buying items.

Have you seen SOE? Sony games? My god, their games have so much things to do with real-world money. Their game, Free Realms, was one example. That game is a trap.

All right Carl, cross off "Be reasonable" as my plan for threads like these.

This does it.

I believe that we have the right to not have to deal with irritating threads like these, especially because the forums isn't where most newbies go to.

Thus, your statement about newbies having a right to know is invalid. You want them to know? Post that in zone chat in Haven. Not here.

Bad is a comparison relative to the items being compared. If one item is "less bad" than another, then the term "good" is applicable here. OOO is "good" compared to another, thus making it more favorable. Humans commit bad deeds and less-bad deeds, but think the less-bad deeds are good because there's worse ones. So don't use relative terms like bad and good when discussing the merits of something independent of all comparisons.

You say that OOO is bad here, bad there, and ignore the point where we said that there's not really any new ideas which have been brought up by either the community or OOO itself.

Yeah, free speech was always bad. And Edward Snowden was a terrible man because he had revealed what our lovely secret services are doing.

First off, another bad thing when there's nothing compared to. I believe this is bad compared to other things. That was a joke. Ha ha. I'm so funny.

Second off, then I guess you can walk into a crowded theater, yell "FIRE!!!", and risk the lives of a bunch of innocents as they trample each other running out in a blind panic. "Oh but I was using my first rights so there haha."

I really would like to know why the people don't want to see a level editor

I bet you any number of anything in the game that 80 or more of the first 100 maps will be something like "elevator 200 red boxes haven".

Don't bring up other games. SK isn't one of those "other games". It's a whole different genre. If you can't tell the difference between Spiral Knights and, say, World of Warcraft, then you don't know this game.

I'm saying that there will be a bunch of maps where the entire path to the elevator is littered with red boxes and maybe Wolvers if enemies are needed, which are weak and lame.

You know, it's been so long since I've used this.

And this thread is beyond funny.

You're right, it's ignorant of how OOO operates. Because you clearly did not do your homework on it.

Cause my name would've been clean off the database... I had a 6 months break and lot of people take break from SK to come back, cleaning the names of the database is still a laughable idea in the world of SK, this is not WOW or D3, this is SK (so tempted to write sparta...)

And if you know anything about how hard level editor are to make, you wouldn't even be asking for it. It took TL2 and Runic Games 10 months (if not more) of constant work to make a level editor that was good enough for an average user to use. They are a small team and were counting on that from Day 1, that was their goal. It takes way more time and way more effort than your mind can imagine to turn multiple software into a single one and make a 11 years old use it.

This Thread is quite laughable...

There are billions of other games you can play spend your time on them instead of complaining about spiral knights, OMG "more money for an update" big whoop they are not forcing anyone to spend there money on spiral knights! Did you know you have to grab the mouse, slide across to the pay now button..... People cans do what they want with there money!! Go put your big boy pants on and leave the players of the game alone, people like you are unwanted in this community

Aimed at fashama

Edit2: Move along, nothing to see, just me being myself..... tra-la-la

Oh shaman, you ain't unwanted.

I double what you say, skeptic. To add on, OOO's just doing what they want to do. If they had wanted more money, they would have move on to a more prospective career. Game developing is not easy, nor high-ranking or high-paying. I highly doubt that Sega is paying OOO that much, or even earning that much.

I don't mind waiting for updates, there are other games to play too. If you only have SK in your game list, then I recommend you to go check out free flash games on armorgames.com, or kongregate.com, or look for other MMOGs. TF2, Starcraft 2, heck there are a lot more free games out there.

You've opened my eyes! I'm stopping to give money to OOO right now.

Oh, wait, I forgot, I've never spent a buck on promotional items.

In fact, you are seriously overestimating the amount of donators in the game. Most users play it because it's free to play, and many of those most don't have access to real money at all (it's basically a kids' game, if you remember).

However, even if this thin layer of people follows your advice and halts their donations, the game will simply die for the lack of money. Maintaining an MMO infrastructure and running a business is far from being cheap and easy.

I was disappointed, of course, when the Gunner Update got delayed again, but for me this delay also means two important things:

1) The Gunner Update is not really the main content of the Gunner Update (sounds funny, indeed). Even if you are a very lazy programmer / designer / etc, you simply cannot be developing a moderately sized bunch of guns (which are mostly based upon already existing models) for half a year. It means that they are busy with something else to include into the update: new T3 boss, Arcade redux #2, etc.

2) The release of the update will depend upon its readiness and not upon certain deadlines. I have some beta testing experience with security software, and this experience has clearly shown that products suffer immensely when their developers are on a tight schedule. They just never had enough time to make things right, and their software has been becoming worse and worse every year.

Remember this is Fashama we're talking about, the one responsible for posts like this gem.

So here is my understanding of the whole "reskins" thing-

You've got an art team, and a programming team. They produce their respective things as time goes on, and one cannot produce the other's thing. The art team works a lot faster than the programming team, because this is just how it goes.

The promotions would then not be slowing their progress down so much, as they can be done while the programming team "catches up" with the art team.

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I have but two real issues with OOO-

0. They do a poor job planning for the future and managing their community.
-They should have a better plan for things like mad bomber, or acheron, or shard bombs. And radiants, of course.
-Refusal to acknowledge player concerns doesn't bode well

1. Too much focus on temporary one time events, not enough new levels and such
-Black kats and Margrel, Shrine to Apocrea and both the Grinchlin events are all examples of this.
-Rather than being a "one time event" type thing, it would be nice if these things were just put into the game as normal content, so that I'd have more to do than just farming.
-Actual new content- like the tortodrone levels revealed- should be given priority

Aside from that, I'm pretty happy with the way they operate.

Where's Annilaton when you need him? Art for this thread would be AMAZING!

A serious question to all people which spend a lot money here: Do you seriously enjoy using this game as a costume simulator, with a content-poor environment? Do costumes and reskins really make you that happy?

I think I speak for most of the end-gamers who sit in haven and just chill when I say:

Yes, I like to look fancy and all that jazz, I can look nice and talk to friends. So even if the game dies in the content side, there will always remain a handful of people who just like to sit and chill.

I love it when someone starts a rage thread and it completely backfires on them.

sorry if i brought this back up. someone graveyard it now if there's nothing else to discuss here pls