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Wed, 02/26/2014 - 13:29
Scirio's picture
Scirio

The almighty tortodrones are back!

But are they permanent? As there is no time specified to which these creatures can be found in the clockworks.

The new price boxes will be up until March 9th!

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 13:34
#1
Autofire's picture
Autofire
You are experiencing a PICNIC ERROR!

OH MY GOSH THOSE SHIELDS ARE AWESOME!

'Nuff said.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 13:37
#2
Ding-Dong-Die's picture
Ding-Dong-Die
Wait, what are the new

Wait, what are the new shields?

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 13:40
#3
Arcknightdelta's picture
Arcknightdelta
fingers crossed.

I hope this mission is permanent. But if not and it disappears when the box promo finishes then hopefully it comes back again. I can't play this event. So much work!

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 13:43
#4
Ding-Dong-Die's picture
Ding-Dong-Die
If this mission is not

If this mission is not permanent, I won't be able to play it.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 15:35
#5
Cobaltstarfire's picture
Cobaltstarfire
I wish they'd add more

I wish they'd add more permanent content instead of bombarding us constantly with events. That or make the non holiday related events more common.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 15:37
#6
Krakob's picture
Krakob

I do wonder, too. There's no statement on the availability of the Tortodrone mission, only the Prize Boxes.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 15:47
#7
Mystrian's picture
Mystrian
all event miisons...

Had some type of craftable item. It's the same as getting x amount of items as in the apocrea mission.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 16:34
#8
Jimispiral's picture
Jimispiral
Anyone else find the fiendish

Anyone else find the fiendish danger room? It only took a button to get in, and there were these runes and respawning artillery strikes, and when you completed it you got 5 glyphs. I tried to take screenshots but after I finished, I realize my F12 wasn't working :(

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 16:35
#9
Sandwich-Potato's picture
Sandwich-Potato

Aphrodite says they leave on the 9th of March. I got 3 Obsidian Shards from 1 run, so...

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 17:10
#10
Aveond's picture
Aveond
ANCIENT PLATE SHELLS!

From rough calculation, getting one of the tortoshields to 5 stardom requires roughly 28 ancient shells. If you wish to get all, that'd be a little over 90 or so.
So about 50 runs in to get all of the special material required.
don't quote me on the math, though.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 17:16
#11
Sandwich-Potato's picture
Sandwich-Potato

Let me do some math. It took a party of 4 peeps 4 Fiend levels (Silent Legion Elite) to get all the Glyphs. An average run gives 2-4 Shells; let's say 3. You'll need 10 boss runs, or 40 Fiend levels, to get one shield to 5*, with 2 shells left over. And it's 200k per shield, though the cost can be split among party member as the glyphs are unbound and so is energy.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 18:14
#12
Dibsville's picture
Dibsville

Guys.

The shield bash.

The shield bash guys.

It's beautiful.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 18:22
#13
Oroseira's picture
Oroseira
So basically

Tortodrones have no weaknesses or resistances.
Tried piercing, normal & elemental damage on it and they all came back as neutral damage. Haven't tested shadow yet.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 18:23
#14
Ardent-Light's picture
Ardent-Light
Torodrones are BACK?!

EEEK!

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 18:23
#15
Sandwich-Potato's picture
Sandwich-Potato

Really? I used my level 10 Combuster and the first 2 hits were grey 289's.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 18:47
#16
Mystrian's picture
Mystrian

Maybe buggy damge numbers. Torto has been only out now for what 4 or so hours? Bugfixes are sure to come!

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 19:57
#17
Sandwich-Potato's picture
Sandwich-Potato

It's an event, and only lasts til March 9th. Going to be some pretty fast bugfixes, and the jelly minis still have buggy number colors.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 20:25
#18
Fehzor's picture
Fehzor

I've got the 4* of one, and 14 shells for the 5* + mats to go on another run. This is more than doable.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 21:12
#19
Skepticraven's picture
Skepticraven
Heh.

Height modifier changes the size of the tortodrone shield bash.
The extra tall one is giant.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 21:29
#20
Fehzor's picture
Fehzor

Lol, does it actually change the area of effect? Or just make it look goofy?

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 22:01
#21
Skepticraven's picture
Skepticraven
@Fehzor

I doubt the height mod actually changes area.
I don't know a good way to test it though...

I can say that at my height (short), the 5* reaches at least over a low wall (tested in the fire pot area of advanced training).
Also... 3 new 5* shields in haven.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 22:12
#22
Fehzor's picture
Fehzor

Speaking of which, why does the normal one have such weaker stats than the others? Is its bash better in some way?

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 22:36
#23
Rekkusu's picture
Rekkusu
So...

I just found out about the new shield bash for the Tortodrone shields and it's the greatest thing ever.

But...

Is everyone's tortodrone shield bash model completely pitch black or is it just mine? (I'm using the 3* Shadow variant if it means anything)

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 22:38
#24
Hexzyle's picture
Hexzyle

The graphical scale of the knight has absolutely no impact on the hardcoded values that determine the reaches of weapons and other interaction, the developers stated that when the height mods were first released.

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 00:49
#25
Windsickle's picture
Windsickle
Well. They've returned at

Well. They've returned at long last. They live up to anyone's expectations?

-Windsickle

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 01:40
#26
Aplauses's picture
Aplauses

It looks like people here doesn't seem to be impressed with the new totodrone thing.

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 05:00
#27
Sandwich-Potato's picture
Sandwich-Potato

Well, wasn't the Ancient Plate Mail's Defense 'like double' the Volcanic's? Maybe the red one is like that or something.

I really want that red shield. It would replace my BTS for Shadow Lairs and the like. Plus it's red. Red is cool.

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 05:33
#28
Flowchart's picture
Flowchart

Apparently you can keep doing them and getting the prestige each time.
Not that prestige matters much right now, but this is the first time they've had something where you can grind them out.
I wonder if this is intentional?

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 06:06
#29
Flame-Shinobi's picture
Flame-Shinobi
Quick Question.

Can you find normal good old fashioned Tortos in Wolver dens and other places they use to be? If not, please make them a reare occurance OOO!!!!

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 08:05
#30
Orbwanter's picture
Orbwanter

Is everyone's tortodrone shield bash model completely pitch black or is it just mine? (I'm using the 3* Shadow variant if it means anything)

I have the same issue with the same shield.

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 09:22
#31
Skepticraven's picture
Skepticraven
 

Glows blue with 5*.

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 09:31
#32
Whimsicality's picture
Whimsicality

The model is pitch black because of Compatibility Mode being ticked on. When I tick it off, the model is the ghostly blue one.

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 09:51
#33
Skepticraven's picture
Skepticraven
Hrm...

The thing that confuses me is that for the shields the status resists are:
Stoic: Normal, Stun
Wild: Pierce, Poison, Shock
Primal: Elemental, Fire, Ice
Grim: Shadow, Stun, Ice

Stoic is probably anti-trojan armor.
Wild one fits snarbolax shadow lair nicely (ok, only pierce and poison fit...).
We got another fire+ice item (grand solstice) with primal for all those dangerous status construct (anti-mechaknight?).
Grim hits the ice-themed fiend areas (a mix of ice and stun).

Why the stun resist for grim when stoic has only that one resist?
Why not 2 resists for Stoic?

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 09:59
#34
Valorai's picture
Valorai
Heart of Valor.

Oh well. Not everyone can be pleased. I just wish the ones who aren't pleased weren't as vocal.

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 14:03
#35
Thinslayer's picture
Thinslayer
@Skepticraven

Because the normal defense supposedly makes up for it.

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 14:18
#36
Thunder-The-Bright's picture
Thunder-The-Bright
gods ain't gonna help you, son.

done tortodrone once.
3 sparks in less than 3 mins. blitz is suicide. nuff said.

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 14:23
#37
Cheshireccat's picture
Cheshireccat
Shields

The shields are they way they are just to differentiate them from existing shields.

Grand is Volcanic Plate but without the fire. (This is the worst of the four for that reason).
Gorgomega is Dread Skelly with Stun instead of Poison.
Savage is Royal Jelly with Poison Shock instead of Stun Sleep.
Omegaward is Grey Owlite with Freeze instead of Shock.
and all four have Movement Speed Decrease Low.

Honestly, they're not good shields. I won't be using one of these instead of my regular shields (Dread Skelly & CoA, BTS & Aegis, Grey Owlite, and Volc Plate & Ironmight Plate).

But they are damned pretty to look at. :)

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 14:43
#38
Orbwanter's picture
Orbwanter

Gorgomega might fill a niche as the anti-Silversap shield, Freeze + Stun is a really nice combo and damage type isn't as important for shields as status resist.

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 14:56
#39
Krakob's picture
Krakob

As I understand it, the Tortodrones just resist everything. Not sure how much, though. Could anyone elaborate more on the topic?

As for the shields, Gorgomega seems really nice for the reason that the above post pointed out. I might get it eventually but for now, I'll stack up on shells to use later on. They don't expire, folks!

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 16:36
#40
Jedret
CHEESE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CHEESE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 20:51
#41
Bitsbee's picture
Bitsbee

Question: Since I will probably miss out on this awesome event due to IRL issues, are the Ancient Shell Materials Tradable? And if so, what are their value in Crowns?

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 21:05
#42
Skepticraven's picture
Skepticraven
@Bitsbee

No, they are bound.

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 21:17
#43
Sweet-Hope's picture
Sweet-Hope
@bits

Nope as every mat frm event its bound to your knight. but the mats for the id those are tradeable but sadly you wouldnt be able to use the key since you need the event to use it.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 03:52
#44
Bitsbee's picture
Bitsbee

Poop.

Well, can you tell me what the average amount of Shells you can get per run, how long a run takes(both Solo & Group-wise), & how many Shells in total do you need to Craft one of the 5* Shields?

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 02:42
#45
Hexzyle's picture
Hexzyle

The drop rate of Fiendish Glyphs depends on where you are farming for them. Their current market value is approximately 1,000 crowns each.

The Fiendish ID Card costs 25 Fiendish Glyphs and 10,000 crowns and unlocks the Tortodrone level for all players in a party.

The Tortodrone fight can take anywhere from 1-3 minutes, depending on how much time players spend dead and not directly damaging the Tortodrones.
The mean average of Ancient Shells you receive per run according to my estimates is 3.6 (Tested on Elite, total range is 2-6, assuming you are not dead when someone breaks the Tortodrone corpses)
You must also remember to factor in Spark of Life costs into this. There is not much place to run or hide to in the fight, so don't think you can skimp on this cost through cowardice.

Going purely by market value (which in my opinion, is heavily overpriced due to 90% of people not knowing the easiest way to farm the Glyphs) this puts each Ancient Shell at 2,430 crowns.

Each Shield consumes the regular items for the Jelly Shield/Plate Shield/Skelly Shield/Owlite Shield upgrades (Orbs, crowns, and materials) but also consume 6, 10, and 12 Ancient Shells for the 3, 4, and 5 star variants.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 05:18
#46
Bitsbee's picture
Bitsbee

Thanks.

I did some maths of myself & found out that it would take at least 28-32 IDs(280-320kCr) to get enough Ancient Shells to Craft 3 of the four Shields...Right?

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 05:33
#47
Sandwich-Potato's picture
Sandwich-Potato

That's if you do it all by yourself. If you work with a team, a FSC run can give you 4 ID's plus the seals and mats and Radiants. 8 runs = 40k per run cuz team = 320k. Ta da!

28*3 = 84. 84/3 = 28. The average is apparently 3.4, so maybe even less than your projection, Bitsbee.

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