The Best Armor Combinations Thread
Mon, 05/30/2011 - 07:16
What works for you? Do you max one set of defenses or do you try to cover all the bases?
Hey, I thought I'd start this here thread for Paranoid Knights Who Don't Want to Die (PKWDWTD). (Subset: Paranoid Knights Who Don't Want to Die Badly in a Fire (PKWDWTDBF))
So what's your preference? Do you stack your Helm, Armor, and Shield against a particular threat or do you try to munchkin it out and defend against everything? And what's your particular bane- is it Piercing damage from the Wolvers? Always getting frozen and pummeled?
For me: I've been rockin' the Skelly Suit line [Norm, Shadow, Poison, Freeze, -Fire] and find that I'm always catching fire. It really gets me down taking multiple hits when I don't have a status pill. My elemental defense is just too low. I made a Gunslinger Hat [Norm, Piercing] with UV Elemental Defense Max, which helps some. For a shield I've got a Great Defender [Norm, Piercing] - which again covers my piercing needs but leaves me hurting against elemental attacks. I'm thinking of switching to the Owlite line. (And I'm not too sure about the Gunslinger Hat, and part of me says I should have sold it while I had the chance with its UV, but can't sell a 4* or bonded with the new changes.) I appreciate the Poison resists of the Skelly suit, especially when just about all the gates had a poison floor or two a short while back. (shock and freeze seems to be the order of the day?)
For my Alt Viggo: Elemental Cloak [Norm, Elem, Fire, Shock, -Stun], Owlite Shield [Norm, Elem, Fire, Shock], Drake Scale Helm [Pierce, Elem, Fire]. He's pretty well protected across a spectrum of damage, but takes Shadow badly- So a change to the Skelly Shield may be in order. As you can see I'm one of those that tries to cover all the bases.
What about you? I'd love to hear some other opinions.
Mon, 05/30/2011 - 16:39
#2
Well rounded
I think Angelic and Drake Scale were built for each other. Togeather, they provide equal defense against normal, peircing, elemental, and shadow attacks, and defend against posin and curse. They also provide bonuses against feinds and beasts, the two enemies that are weak to peircing. That means that I have some sort of bonus as long as I use a shadow and an elemental weapon. Still, for royal jelly, use cautery sowrd, and for vanaduke, use cold iorn vanquisher.
Mon, 05/30/2011 - 18:01
#3
Yeah.
Mixing types is a little controversial, but I have Divine Veil for the hood and Vog Cub Armor, plus the Grey Owlite Shield, of course.
But I have no piercing damage resistance... there's simply no need for it. Giant lichen colonies have a good bit of time between attacks and so rarely break my shield, and spikes and thorns are avoidable. Anyway, that gives me shadow/elemental + elemental/normal and a normal/elemental shield.
Now eventually I'll make more 5* armors, but while I have only one set that's the compromise I like.
Mon, 05/30/2011 - 22:30
#4
Aw yeah
My set would have to be the Valkrye helm skolver body the volcanic plate sheil with fearless rigadoon as sword and argent peace making starring as gun.
Tue, 05/31/2011 - 12:33
#5
Being able to predict Strata
Being able to predict Strata now makes me prefer stacking one type of armor over mixing. For one thing, mixing anything with Pierce resist in is sadly completely pointless (Wolvers don't do piercing damage: they should, but they don't, so it's useless), and for another it's rare to encounter both Elemental and Shadow in abundance at the same time in one strata. Gun Puppies are the only thing that consistently appear in some Fiend/Undead heavy strata, but they are usually easily dealt with as long as you can shield properly.
Which brings me to the next point: If I ever mix and match, I prefer to have high armor against one type and a strong shield against the other. So I might mix the Skelly Shield in with Grey Featherl armor, or the Grey Owlite in with the Deadshot set.
Mon, 07/18/2011 - 20:07
#6
I’m going Divine Veil/Skolver
Pending that balance is the goal, not stacking against one strata, I’m going Divine Veil/Skolver Coat for full coverage. This gives you equal norm/elem/shad/piercing with decent coverage of poison/fire/shock/freeze with no penalty to any other and sword damage medium to boot. I’m going plate shield line cause its normal defense is fantastic even at 4* and if you are getting hit enough to blow through a max normal defense shield, you are getting hit way too often and should reconsider your play style anyways.
Mon, 07/18/2011 - 20:19
#7
I just wear the vog cub set
I just wear the vog cub set and barbarous thorn shield for everything. I've solo cleared every possible stratum in T3 using this setup; your armor really isn't that important.
Instead of focusing on making different types of armor, I'd suggest you focus instead on avoiding getting hit in the first place.
Mon, 07/18/2011 - 20:36
#8
Divine veil with Medium
Divine veil with Medium normal UV + vog cub coat with high normal UV+ barbarous thorn shield
The most perfect set?
Mon, 07/18/2011 - 21:22
#9
I'm trying to decide what
I'm trying to decide what armor combination to use right now.
I'm definitly going to use either the skolver or vog cub body.
I'm stuck between Skolver body (UV: low shadow defense) and divine veil. That cobination would give me every type of defense (I'm not sure if that's actually a good thing though. Is it better to focus on just two or three denfense rather then have it all spread out?) The skolver divine veil set would also give me resistance to shock, fire, curse, and freeze.
The other combination I'm considering is vog cub coat with a dragon scale helm. I would have lots of elemental defense and some normal and piercing defense. Elemental seems to be the most promenent attack Type (correct me if I'm wrong) which Is why I considered this as an option (and because I like the look of the dragon scale helmet.
I would appricate any advice or suggestions :)
Mon, 07/18/2011 - 23:31
#10
@Fortune
This is funny to me,
@Fortune
This is funny to me, because I have (and am putting up for sale in this thread -> http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/16231 )
Barbarous Thorn Shield
Vog Cub Coat UV Normal medium
Divine Veil UV Normal High
I'll agree that it's fun. Roughly the same Normal/Elemental defense as standard full vog cub, slightly less normal for slightly higher elemental.
Plus you're trading the sword attack speed : Medium for Shock + curse resist, damage bonus to fiends medium, and a hefty amount of shadow defense.
Tue, 07/19/2011 - 22:17
#11
made for each other
like the OP I also did some research and found that the Drake scale and angelic combined make a perfectly balanced set. why does no one use it? I feel like something is being hidden from me and im just about to buy it.
Wed, 07/20/2011 - 11:43
#12
I’ve also thought about doing
I’ve also thought about doing Vog Cap and Radiant Silvermail, providing good norm/ele/pierce/shad with protection from poison/curse/fire, sword speed med and damage to undead med with no penalties.
Wed, 07/20/2011 - 12:20
#13
Armor of the fallen w/ MAX
Armor of the fallen w/ MAX Normal Def
Divine Veil W/ Max Elemental
Best Coverage by far:
Tons of Normal, Elemental, and Shadow defense.
Decient amount of Fire and Shock
Little bit of Poison
and no penalties to fiends or curse resist.
Sun, 07/24/2011 - 12:50
#14
Correct me if I'm wrong....
The way I see it is that poison, curse, and fire protection are key as those are the ones that WILL reduce your health guaranteed. Things like being frozen or stunned may make you a target and less able to avoid attack, but I don't think they hurt you. Most times I just stay frozen for a few seconds while my team mates play around me. Or if I get stunned, I just slowly back away from the battle until I can return full speed.
Therefore I think the dragon scale mail and valkarie helm are the best combo together. Combine them with a shield that also ups fire protection (since the valkarie helm is weak to it) and you got an awesome combo.
Thu, 09/08/2011 - 07:37
#15
shadow shield
IMHO, the most important thing to have is a high shadow resist shield. The mobs that are the most likely to hit you are shadow monsters, because (wolvers excluded) they are the most mobile.
I think crest of almire is the best shield to have. But then again who needs the best shield when you have beaten varnaduke 10 times. Sinister Skelly shield is the second candidate.
Thu, 09/08/2011 - 07:45
#16
Shield question.
with this gear.
-Volcanic "class" head ( Vog, bomber, plate, etc?
-Divine mantle
is better a Volcanic plate shield or Owlite ?
Fri, 09/09/2011 - 18:28
#17
i think i'm going
i think i'm going skolver/divne. No penalties, every defense on any situation, and the 3 most common status resistences. Even you get a med bonus for sword. A cuple of trinklets for some extra bonus and i'm done =O
Sat, 09/10/2011 - 07:08
#18
Azure guardian helm / divine mantle
i have an azure guardian helm combined with a divine mantle. i think its good. i have defence for all types (normal , piercing ,elemental, shadow). Also my divine mantle has a medium freeze UV so i think i am ok.
Sat, 09/10/2011 - 13:09
#19
Looks Ossum...
Divine Veil+ Deadshot Mantle.
Piercing damage is not an issue as it is the easiest to avoid xP...
Thu, 10/27/2011 - 03:33
#20
how about
Dread
how about
Dread Skelly,
Dragon Scale mail
This is what i currently use, is it any good?
Thu, 10/27/2011 - 07:07
#21
Balanced Bomber set
I'm a bomb focused kinda guy... and my favorite all-purpose set is a Volcanic Demo Helm and Radiant Silvermail. This mix covers all damage types almost equally, plus resistance to freeze, poison, curse, fire, and my silvermail even has a little shock UV resistance. It also provides general damage bonus to undead, and a medium bomb charge reduction.
When I'm feeling especially arrogant I'll swap Volcanic Demo Helm with a Mad Bomber Mask, seriously reducing my effect resists, but cranking up my bomb damage.
Someone said earlier that mixed/hybrid sets are controversial, which is crap. I've tried things both ways, and I'm a big believer in covering all damage types, at least in the randomly generated stratums.
For boss stratums however, since bad guys are from a single family/type, it is best to gear up specifically for those.
Thu, 03/14/2013 - 15:50
#22
Know what armor has the highest defense
I'm that kind who goes for defense. So it would be a combination of
Ice Queen, Grey Feather, Dread Skelly, or Ironmight/Volcanic/Ancient.
Note that Ice Queen has THE highest piercing defense.
Grey Feather has THE highest elemental defense.
And Dread Skelly has THE highest shadow defense.
And for shields, I'd suggest CoA over Dread Skelly because of the status of Fire and Shock.
A Piercing shield isn't suggested unless you are up against polyps. Aegis or BTS are commended, but Ironmight is the best shield against all Piercing Monsters, since there are only a few pure-piercing damage attacks.
Elemental Shield?
Get the Heater Shield or Grey Owlite Shield.
Thu, 03/14/2013 - 17:25
#23
How...did...you...revive...ov
How...did...you...revive...over...1...year...old...thread....
Thu, 03/14/2013 - 21:37
#24
I guess Entyre likes: <query> site:forums.spiralknights.com
Anyways, Ancient Plate set ftw!
Thu, 03/14/2013 - 21:58
#25
No piercing defense you
No piercing defense you say?
Compound 42... Hurts...
But anyway, I'm experimenting at the moment, I've TRIED dragon + fallen with volcanic shield and Seerus + shadowsun with an owlite.
To tell you the truth, I died less with the dragon and fallen, so much for offence being a good defence...
Tue, 03/19/2013 - 10:24
#26
i'm currently using vog cub
i'm currently using vog cub cap, grey owlite, and radiant silvermail. the result is balanced defense in all damage types, and i resist all statuses except shock and freeze.
Sun, 02/23/2014 - 02:27
#27
My favourite Combination
I like the scolver set, barborous thorn shield and blitz needle. Scolver and barborous thorn shield gives you sword damage bonus :D
Sun, 02/23/2014 - 07:10
#28
As much HP as possible
HP is the only thing that protects against absolutely everything.
Plus you get full HP when you revive with sparks!
With enough HP you won't need to worry about anything.
(From a Lockdown player)
Sun, 02/23/2014 - 11:27
#29
I like to protect myself from all damage while keeping up speed.
That's why I use a mix between Vog Cub Cap and Radiant Silvermail for one of my most used sets, which is the Recon Ranger set. Along with an Elite Quickstrike module, I get ASI very high for my two swords. I keep around an Argent Peacemaker as a side arm and a Salt Bomb because it's awesome and is the only shadow weapon that matches the Recon Ranger color scheme.
I have lots of other hybrid combinations too, but this is the one I use most often.
Sat, 03/01/2014 - 21:11
#30
I have a ice queen crown with
I have an ice queen crown with freeze max and a 4* miracle cloakwith poison max (planning on getting it to divine mentle). The helm gives defence to normal and pierce while the divne gives defence to shadow and elemental. The helm is resistant to stun and freeze and the divine is resistant to fire, shock, and curse. With the poison max uv, I am resistant to every status (not including sleep which is useless now) and resistant to every damage type. With the freeze max on the helm and the freeze resist that comes with the helm, freeze won't be too much of an issue. My shield is an aegis which has normal and pierce defence and I have a fire max uv on it.
Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:10
#31
HEY GUYS
hey guys! I really need an good set to pick. Vog, Snarby, Or skolver, Pls reply and PM me in-game. Thx!
Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:10
#32
HEY GUYS
hey guys! I really need an good set to pick. Vog, Snarby, Or skolver, Pls reply and PM me in-game. Thx!
Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:10
#33
HEY GUYS
hey guys! I really need an good set to pick. Vog, Snarby, Or skolver, Pls reply and PM me in-game. Thx!
Sun, 03/02/2014 - 17:43
#34
other thread
If you wish to respond to Vengance-Ichigo, please do so at his thread devoted to that question:
Wed, 11/26/2014 - 15:35
#35
Snarbolax
Ilike offensive, if u take down the enemy before u is better so i use snarbolax set
Wed, 11/26/2014 - 17:07
#36
Currently have Volcanic Demo
Currently have Volcanic Demo set because of my wide arsenal of bombs (Graviton, Irontech, DBB, and a couple hazes)
But am currently thinking about making a Divine Set for a suicide loadout (FoV and GF)
A really defensive build that I've been thinking of is a combination of Divine Hood and Ironmight Plate and a Heater Shield. Would have defensive capabilities of all damage types, resistance to fire, shock, and stun, as well as a shield capable of outlasting those pesky freeze lumbers. That ASD is also not that big a deal because I'm mainly a bomber anyway.
Thu, 11/27/2014 - 03:18
#37
My tanky set :
I'm just finish to alchemise this set. I try it into arcade and i love it. (I switch with my chaos for more defence and less DPS)
Divine Veil http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Divine_Veil
Radiant Silvermail http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Radiant_Silvermail
Dragon Scale Shield http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Dragon_Scale_Shield
Result :
All status cover (except freeze / sleep)
All defence type (no normal but in T3 it's useless)
Bonus undead and fiend dmg.
No UV yet (maybe UV freeze are good on it)
And add your fav costume.
Thu, 11/27/2014 - 05:49
#38
unfortunately no
All defence type (no normal but in T3 it's useless)
That's a common misconception. There's still a fair amount of normal in Tier 3. For example, trojans, slag guards, and Vanaduke's mace all do tons of normal damage. That's why knights bring Volcanic Plate Shield into Firestorm Citadel.
(I switch with my chaos for more defence and less DPS)
I think that you meant to say the opposite: Chaos gives less defense and more damage per second than these armors, right?
Thu, 11/27/2014 - 13:09
#39
My bad ...
InB4 Normal resistance is useless. I use this page for reference :
http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Wolver
They inflict only piercing damage on elite difficulty, but other monsters can do normal damage...
I see a failure in my tanky set -_-'
(I think that you meant to say the opposite: Chaos gives less defense and more damage per second than these armors, right?)
Yep. (or if I already swear my chaos set and i will chose to switch with my tanky set... I lose DPS to gain defense)
If you see a mid filled glass, it's filled at mid or empty at mid ?
Same here, only point of view...
For me, offense is a good defense (mostly) so I've been going Vog/Fallen for the IAS. Fallen also provides some good resists, with the curse penalty currently a non-issue as far as I'm concerned, but I am getting a little more annoyed at the Fiend damage penalty. Those buggers are annoying enough without me having to take an extra swing at'em to finish them off. Shield has been the Tortoise shield all the way. It does everything at least OK, which is all I really can ask for.
Future changes: I've been considering the silvermail line for shadow/piercing, but piercing just isn't that much of a threat still, even if I do randomly wander onto spikes more often than is healthy for me. So Divine Mantle (for that all-important shock resist I'm tempted to get a trinket for at this point) or Deadshot Mantle (Yay more normal defense!) are my other options. For now, though I'm just buying up recipes and waiting for more content to give me reason to go one way or the other.