Hey guys.. Lately i have had a problem..
A guy
has been annoying me saying that i have to give him his cr back.
The story is...
I needed a snarby set... We were going to go for a shadow lair.
He used his key by mistake...
I told him that i would take him for whichever shadow lair he wants WHEN i go for it.
So i sold my Shadow Key for 12 eternal orbs....
Bcame a champion and now he's mad at me for selling it.
Is it my mistake or his?
He's planning on banning me now!
It is'nt fair!
Plz help me and reply!
Troubles in SK wanna talk to the GM's
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Hey guys.. Lately i have had a problem..
A guy called Striker-Zee has been annoying me saying that i have to give him his cr back.
The story is...
I needed a snarby set... We were going to go for a shadow lair.
He used his key by mistake...
I told him that i would take him for whichever shadow lair he wants WHEN i go for it.
So i sold my Shadow Key for 12 eternal orbs....
Bcame a champion and now he's mad at me for selling it.
So he used his key by mistake, then you told him you'd take him to a SL when you go for it next...
You sold your old shadow key, but you can still eventually get a new one and take him on one later. ¬_¬
There's no reason for him to want CR from you unless you took his CR to get the key in the first place.
The shadow key was your property and what you do with it is none of any other player's concern. You sold it for 12 eternal orbs, that's your choice and you cannot get banned for it. If he's gonna keep annoying you and getting mad, then eventually he'll be the one who gets banned if anything. I wouldn't worry about it if I were you. A similar thing happened to me long ago, someone offered me a price on a Final Flourish with ASI VH, and I told him I would THINK about it, and that I would only buy it if someone doesn't give me a better offer. A day later a friend offered me one for a lower price and I bought it. He finds out that I bought one for a lower price and gets extremely ticked at me. Starts swearing like crazy calling me every name in the book in trade chat. I find out later on he got temp-banned for a week. GG
Just to ease your worries a bit, another player can't ban you. So his plans to ban you aren't really gonna go anywhere. He can report you but that isn't really going to go anywhere since you're not exactly in the wrong.
1800 CE doesn't take that long to get, you guys can do another SL in a couple weeks' time or something. Especially if you only JUST got to Champion, you should be properly equipped for whichever SL you're gonna take on. Delaying it so you can survive isn't a bad idea.
He's planning on banning me now!
It is'nt fair!
Sigh...
- They can't ban you.
- They can't decide how you use your money.
- They can't make you take them on a shadow lair run.
This is no-one's fault, it's how the game is played.
Plus if it's your shadow key, then you can choose what to do with it. The threat they gave you was because they were angry.
Also, take out the name in your post. When downtalking a person it's better for them to be protected by anonymity.
How will anything we say help by stopping this guy from "banning" you?
I personally can't judge who is in the wrong if I haven't heard both stories. From the evidence you have given seems to me you wanted to make a Snarby coat (your gain) you both had shadow keys so if he made a mistake of using his key then that means you were supposed to use yours. So you saved a key (your gain again). Naturally to make it up to the guy you offered to take him on a SL run using your key next time. So really you should honour that regardless. But you sold the key (your gain again a 2nd time). However you are entitled to sell it as long as you keep to your word, buy another key and take this guy on a SL run. To be fair he has every right to be annoyed.
But. You can't get banned for this (your gain again a 3rd time). Seems to me you just did someone over pretty bad. Again I don't know the full story. I'm only going off what you have told us.
I've done it before, I meant to break the Snarby trees but accidentally attacked too early. But I wasn't a complete
about it and I contacted the GMs right away via Support Portal, and I got my key back.moron
Can't you just tell him to cool down and wait a bit until you're ready to go on another SL?
"Can't you just tell him to cool down and wait a bit until you're ready to go on another SL?"
Or do nothing? OP's "arguement" sounds really silly.
He used his key by accident by using is sword too close to the elevator
He might've cliked the mouse to many times near the elevator so..
It looked like this
Walks near elevator slash, slash
And suddenly the elevator opened.
BTW thx for the support guys..
U rock!
Want some information to make it better?
Here's what he mailed me:
One: titled "really"
Message:
"Is that so?
1) He broke the Terms of Services
2) Do not pass over your or others information against their will.
in fact he lied, 6, times. Including when you were there.
[line that I don't want to put in]
36k...Right...
He took 12k from all, that is his headache.
I won't budge unless he gives me 3/4th of the Shadow Key amount...
I will be waiting..."
Send on 08 Apr 2014 (hehe...) from [the knight in question]
I did not make any typos. I wrote it as he said it. except the line that I don't wanna put in, because it's irrelevent.
He're another mail:
"Yet more to tell..."
So.... Well I dunno .-. Just giving facts.
I got involved with the issue, after I invited the OP to a cake. He started begging me for 1800ce (because he was afraid as shown in his thread) and I said, "Why?" He explained the situation, and I then sent a tell to [the knight]. He explained things from his prespective, and then when I logged off, because he wasn't finished, he sent another mail. And I could of sworn he sent more after...
Aha! This was sent earlier that day:
"What do you think, I can't ban him? 2 of the people (Like HIM!) have already
met this fate. I have the proofs in screenshots ready to upload to three rings
design (The game makers).
The two people were [Knight name A] and [Knight name B].
You may want them."
Does he think I don't know who OOO is?
It was his fault . HE made the mistake. And he is nit take respobsibility for his problems. Its a game and it is suppose to be entertainment and s/he is overeacting. That is why I say s/he is underaged.
Personally, i'd be reporting this guy (not OP)
Granted, if OP traded off the key after saying he would bring the offended (as a courtesy, mind you), it's not the coolest of moves, but that's his prerogative. Nothing ban-worthy, mind you. Also, claiming to have influence with OOO or a game master will net you a warning, at least, so yeah, report the offending the player.
Aha! This was sent earlier that day:
"What do you think, I can't ban him? 2 of the people (Like HIM!) have already
met this fate. I have the proofs in screenshots ready to upload to three rings
design (The game makers).
The two people were [Knight name A] and [Knight name B].
You may want them."
It is unlikely that OOO will do anything about that kind of situation even if that player sent screenshots of the situation. I say that because nobody would know whenever it was an edited screenshot or a legit and real one.
Zee doesn't have a spiral knights account so I am using this account.
He told the half story.
Now.... Look at these links. Chat boxes.
DO NOT SKIM READ THEM.
http://tinypic.com/r/wt634i/8
http://tinypic.com/r/11u82mh/8
http://tinypic.com/r/53k2s5/8
http://tinypic.com/r/2w2fmgo/8
http://tinypic.com/r/xeeo9v/8
http://tinypic.com/r/wjzb53/8
http://tinypic.com/r/de8vie/8
Give a reply for them, Mr. Dragonvaler.
PS.
Blazer-Of-Troy/ Avenger-Of-Troy has nothing to do with this.
So, just don't get into this deep.
-_-
I have NEVER begged for something. I earn. I am mature enough.
It is Dragonvaler who is still a school boy.
@Dragonvaler
There's something called etiquette. You promised something to Striker-Zee, and you should comply to that.
@Striker-Zee
Although I understand why are you annoyed, you can't go threatening people with bans. Who do you think you are? You aren't any more mature than xim if that's how you solve your problems.
We (the forum users) can only go as far as giving opinions on the matter, but the solution is entirely up to you two.
As the first response said, if you have problems, send a mail to the support team.
Not to Dracerknight, Striker-Zee.
Dracer and Striker-Zee (We 2 are bros)
Zee doesn't have a spiral account. -_-
Oh welp, things happen. Fix'd.
And how is that he "doesn't have a spiral account"? Is he using one of your knight slots?
I even asked him for the shadow thing, then, he left my guild, removed me from friend and tried to flee. This crazy guy came back roaming like a puppy when I threatened him to make him banned. And he still begs here and there... I will upload more screenshots as some proofs.
(Many people think I am guilty... Right! Many people just deposit their supports to the aggreived without even listening to the accused.)
Don't bother with the screens, we can't do anything except comment on the situation. Talk with the Support team.
By the way I have reviews from the 2 knights who went with me to the Lair.
I will upload them A. S. A. P.
Court is in session. I've come to believe that Zee admits using his key by accident, so Valer has no responsibility to reimburse Zee for the loss. However, the second part is that Zee seems to have given Valer another key, which Valer took and sold. By right, Valer would be swindling Zee, but then this is anonymity land, what can we do?
Court adjourned. Valer is not at fault, but is not morally right either. I think Zee just have to get over it, and at least learn how to trust people. It is a fool's mistake to let someone earn your trust, than to earn their trust first.
I find the /ignore feature extremely useful when people are bugging me incessantly. That aside, if one party thinks they got screwed they can send a support request with whatever screenshots they think are useful. Although pending on when it happened and other things they may not help you.
Bringing it to the forums isn't going to get anything done though, especially all those screenshots saying READ ME! Especially when most of us aren't going to be bothered to read them. You're effectively asking the cats outside the court house to make a call when what you want is the judge to. The cats may be loud, but they can't do anything.
~Gwen
Why exactly was I messaged in-game about this? -_-
Oh well, then screw your views against me. People who don't care for the full infos should not make decisions.
Dragonvaler says....
""BTW thx for the support guys..
U rock!""
Yes, "U rock!" because some people don't care to see the real picture.
"U rock!" because some people just listen to the aggreived and give their opinions.
"U rock!" because some people don't even ask the accused what is ACTUALLY happening.
"U rock!" because some people do not even read all the comments put up by me.
People, you ought to see the screen shots and then decide if I am wrong. Just prosecuting me without any information but Dragonvaler's won't help.
They look shopped.
I can tell from some of the pixels and from seeing quite a few shops in my time.
Much like I told the person who found it necessary to message me, I didn't choose sides. I pointed out that somebody who isn't a GM can't ban anybody. They can REPORT them but that's it...?
I have no views against anybody. This doesn't involve me and I would prefer to not be bothered with eight Tinypic links that have to be typed in manually to "prove somebody's innocence," when all I saw were hard to read chatlogs. This is an issue for the GMs to deal with, not random players. We have no power to do anything except /ignore. If others report the same person then it's not going to increase the bans, just clog up the system with redundant reports.
I threatened him, no intention to literally ban him.
If I never threatened he would have left me to no-where.
WHERE IS MR. DRAGONVALER? AFRAID HIDING IN A CORNER? CHANGED NAME? IGNORED ME? SHIFTED ACCOUNT?
WHY THE HELL YOU NEVER COME ONLINE?
@Dracer
Personally, if I had you blatantly harassing me like that I'd change my name too Dracer. And at this point with you admitting to threatening the kid and the obvious attempt at intimidation it is harassment.
I am not on the OP's side, I am not on your side. This doesn't involve anybody I even associate with, so I honestly don't care either way. You 2 should settle this between yourselves or send a support request instead of trying to pull a Jerry Springer on the forums. Absolutely nothing will come from involving the people on the forums aside from rage and possibly you getting a warning on your account for harassment.
Seriously, go do this through the proper channels or let it go, all you're doing right now is making yourself look bad.
~Gwen
I never wanted to share this with other people or have this issue made a widespread news.
It was Dragonvaler.
I never said I will ban him (Not my work), I know I can just report and said I will GET him banned, not ban him. -_-
This doubt must be cleared.
I came to know about this forum when my friend told me.
I came here just to show the real picture and not get insulted in-game.
So, this forum ends here.
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