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Why are you shortening the duration of our events?

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Mi, 01/28/2015 - 23:49
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Gianor

It's been noted recently that the time in which players can participate in events has dropped drastically, with the beginning of the decline starting at the Dark Harvest Festival, and continuing thereon with each passing event.

Dark Harvest 2012: 16 days
Dark Harvest 2013: 13 days
Dark Harvest 2014: 12 days

Winterfest 2012: 23 days
Winterfest 2013: 23 days
Winterfest 2014: 17 days

Apocrea 2013: 13 days
Apocrea 2014: 13 days
Apocrea 2015: 7 days

That's an entire week dropped from the past two events for no apparent reason. A while back when events were announced, the announcement would state that it would take multiple events to collect all the items, except now we barely have enough time to start our collections. Many players speculate this as a filler event, but if it is a filler event, why not lengthen it to keep us players happy for longer periods of time?

If events continue this downward spiral, expect the next round of March of the Tortodrones and the Kataclysmic confrontation to last a week as well. Wanted some of those handguns or a BKC? Good luck~

INB4 I jinxed everything and the Caketastrophe only lasts one day now. That'd be a hoot!

Do, 01/29/2015 - 00:11
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Meep.

Hmm, I'd say that they
1. may want to introduce more events but felt that some may clash (Dark Harvest 2013+ Apocrea 2013 came at the same time I believe)

2. Less event time = More stuff needed to fill Wednesdays. More promotion boxes maybe?

Do, 01/29/2015 - 01:53
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It's hard to even care anymore because I haven't played a single event since the last Apocrea. :l That's how dry everything is now.

Do, 01/29/2015 - 03:35
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It's really not that hard to get lootz.

During about the time of second event only, I managed to get about 10,000 sigils (and only in the FIRST half of the event). Which, since I can do it, means you guys can do it too. So we don't need longer events. We just need more dedicated grinders.

Also, the apocrea stuff isn't that significantly better then their non-obsidian versions.

Do, 01/29/2015 - 05:49
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>> So we don't need longer

>> So we don't need longer events. We just need more dedicated grinders.
>> We just need more dedicated grinders.
>> More... Grinding

Sorry, I got a life.
I'd like more time to be honest just to get these Radiants at the lower depths. >W<

Do, 01/29/2015 - 08:26
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Fehzor

My theory is that after about a week and a half of an event, players lose interest. At that point the bulk of people that care have the snow flake eyes or the amazing apocrean antigua, and are about ready to move on with whatever goals they were working on prior to the event coming into their lives.. I'm happy with the shortening of the events, as long as events with new content are more than a week long. Having them be shorter makes it to where a small subset of people miss the event due to prior engagements that they cannot cancel for a video game.

Repeating the events without any new content can build more hype than having the event for a longer period, and can give those that missed past events due to loads of prior engagements a chance to accomplish something while still interesting those that have completed the event.

Do, 01/29/2015 - 08:49
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Wat Is this true? I've been

Wat

Is this true?

I've been waiting all year for this event, I built a blackhawk, and now I'm not going to have enough time to get enough sigils.

Aaaaauughhhhh

Do, 01/29/2015 - 09:33
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Parasthesia
Well think of the potential

Well think of the potential positives. What if the event rotation got so short that we had a day to day rotation in the prestige missions of the various time-limited events with exclusive equipment?

Or with a lesser stretch of what could happen, how about shorter events leading to shorter times between events?

Do, 01/29/2015 - 13:20
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Replies Galore!

@Avenger-Of-Troy: You can't pull the "I did this so you can too" card on us mate, while you may have all the time in the world to earn two grasping auras a week, some of us can't even get the mats to make one weapon in a week. Whether it be lack of time to play, or getting into terribly organized parties.

Also, regardless if the weapons aren't top tier, the mats needed to buy them come around only during the event, not to mention you get eyegasms every time you see that charge attack. You know you do. Shortening the events only kills our desire to participate in them.

@Fehzor: Regardless if some dedicated players lose interest, a good half of my friends list doesn't have the time to set away two hours out of their day for a game. Events should last longer for this reason. Why they shortened them isn't the problem, it's that they're ripping away event time from people. And since there is no scheduled event calender, or any form of notification before the event, it leaves people who missed the event an empty feeling because they were simply too late, and now must wait another good eight months or so before they have another chance.

@Parasthesia: Sure, chopping a week off every event might eventually lead to events being thrown into circulation more often, but judging from past event dates, even if everything was chopped by a week, the same event wouldn't pass along for a good six months or so. I would normally be okay with time chops on events that don't take skill to complete (Dark Harvest, Caketastrophe), but when you shorten an event that takes skill to earn the rewards for (Winterfest, Apocrea, Tortodrones), or an event that requires a wrestle with the RNG to succeed (Kataclysm, Tortodrones), you're spitting in the face of dedicated players by forcing them to play more, and non dedicated players to either sacrifice time to play, or pass off the one chance they get every 8 months or so.

Do, 01/29/2015 - 14:20
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Ouch.

I'd recommend we get at least 2 weekend periods in per event unless we're getting 1-week rotations every 2-3 months with a single event. Having one event a month isn't too bad a practice IMO.

Do, 01/29/2015 - 14:57
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Well, judging from my income

Well, judging from my income from the first 2 days of the event, I'm not going to have enough time to get 1500 sigils to make the carbine, if it only lasts a week.

/sad.

I really like the apocrea event. It's like a whole new gamemode! Survive while being hunted. I wish it lasted longer.

Do, 01/29/2015 - 15:11
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Hue

I don't mind events being short. It just seems their timing is weird. Spooky event in January is just funny.

Do, 01/29/2015 - 16:47
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I'm vohtarak, call me by thaf name

I started the event with 2k sigils and if it only lasts 7 days, by my math, I'll need another 2 events after this one to get the aura, nerfing the spawn rates was enough, cutting the event in half is just rude

Do, 01/29/2015 - 16:19
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Alright, I'm sorry about that.

But, I'd say that a single level gets around 100-200 sigils right? (elite S6) One of these levels shouldn't take more then 15 minutes. So that's a maximum of 4 hours per item? Well, I guess that's a lot... but it's about the time of 4 vanas. If you don't really have that time avaibable in a week, then I dunno. Also, my estimate of 4 hours is if you get 100... every single time.

Do, 01/29/2015 - 16:46
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I'm vohtarak, call me by thaf name

I'm judging by the fact that I played and got about 800 in a day where I played from 5 to midnight, I'll be able to do that 2 more times, so that's 2400, and the other 4 days I can go from 4:30 to 9:30, cut from 5:30 to 8, so that's 2.5, so in those 4 days I'll get around 1143 total, so around 3543 in the entire event, I will end the event with a bit over half the tokens I need for the aura, I may not have a life, but I still have stuff to do other than SK

Do, 01/29/2015 - 16:56
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Hah I get like 60 per hour

Hah I get like 60 per hour because I only get the plateau on the last level, and then all my teammates die.

Do, 01/29/2015 - 17:26
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Umm...

You sure? I made about 600 sigils yesterday only running solo while primarily hunting for arenas (then deciding to hunt a few souls down because it's a nice little break between fiend arenas).

I got home at around 6:30 or so and didn't really start Spiral Knights until, like, 7 o'clock or so? Think I went until 10:20 before grabbing some food and then the game auto-kicked me for being idle so I just didn't get back on.
Maybe the grind just doesn't seem that bad when you're not grinding.

Do, 01/29/2015 - 17:53
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they have acquired breakfast pastries

Dunno what you people are on about - I was able to haul nearly 3k sigils last night. Having people who know how to walk slender and/or farm souls effectively makes a staggering difference. No, chasing souls with a hammer is not effective pls staph. Bring shiver/blitz or vortex/brandish and enjoy singing in the token rain.

That said - yea, a mere week really sucks. I understand wanting to maintain interest in recurring events - but wouldn't it be better to introduce new reward tidbits, rather than throttle how long people have to participate and enjoy the uncommon content? Personally, I was hoping for a new face-tentacle-accessory-thing, or something along those lines - but instead, everyone just gets less time to play around on the plateau. All the sadness.

Do, 01/29/2015 - 17:57
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That's what I'm thinking too Fangel. One event every 3 weeks or so would be the best.. so like, a one week event followed by 2 weeks of no-events at all. If people can't find time to fight the event one week that shouldn't be such a big deal. If they never can find time.. well that's called not playing the game.

Do, 01/29/2015 - 18:15
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Yeah, we have enough events for it too.

We have 3 events currently. Tortodrones, kats, and apocrea. Have one a month for 1 week at a time. Occasionally add something new to the event to bring people back.
This makes the events more "reliable" so that players who want a certain item know what month to keep an eye open. You can even skip events in favor of others (winterfest/dark harvest/anniversary), and extend those new events to be 2 weeks at least.

It would help a lot of headache around here, 'specially when people start asking when the next kat event will be.

Do, 01/29/2015 - 19:33
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maybe

2 or 3 times a year?

Fr, 01/30/2015 - 04:55
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I'm vohtarak, call me by thaf name

I made my information based on my personal luck, which happens to include joining every party where I'm the only one to last more than 1 minute on the plateau

Fr, 01/30/2015 - 13:30
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Event Circulation

The current Apocrea and Winterfest happened within a month of eachother, and were each shortened by a week, but in my eyes, this still takes time away from players. As Fangel said, there are three events in circulation (ignoring set time events). If events were to follow this "one week long event per month" cycle, Apocrea wouldn't cycle in again until the end of May/June, and one week isn't enough to wait that long for another shot at Sigils.

Fr, 01/30/2015 - 14:29
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one week is not enough time.

one week is not enough time. Plain and simple.

Sa, 01/31/2015 - 11:02
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Subject:

Thirteen days is short enough, seven days is absolutely horrible! I simply can't set aside enough time. It makes trying futile and trying to acquire the rewards almost impossible!

The biggest problem for me is that there isn't any real way for me to get into organized parties and search for this efficiently. I won't be able to squeeze the maximum amount of tokens out of the event no matter what I do.

Sa, 01/31/2015 - 15:10
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Events durations & updates

yes Gianor , i totally understand what your saying because almost now every event is being cut down and its really sad because most people might not be here the first week maybe the second but they won't get the chance to because it got taken away from them.I strongly recommend that Sk should at least have a Event duration to !4 days and keep it like that.The next event is probably the March of Tortodrones and what I'm guessing from it might me 7 days too but hopefully not.After that event will be Black Kat event. This is one of my fave events because of the Black Kat's.I haven't gotten a Book and gotten BKC but i devoted my whole time for that event to farm every second of it.if they cut that event down I don't know what to do on SK anymore because that's the only thing Ive been preparing for :(

So, 02/01/2015 - 16:27
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7 days is really not enough.

7 days is really not enough. You can cherry pick your argument from either having done it when it was easier in previous years but I have just started out on it this year and am farming properly but it's hard to find good players to farm with. If you solo it, it takes a long time to get 200 out of one plateau.

I have been grinding hours every day since the event and am only 60% there. I think the shortening is just to keep the rewards rare.

edit: DOes anyone know exactly what time this finishes on 3 Feb???

So, 02/01/2015 - 17:51
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Well the actual content items that aren't the 10K token aura for the event are stupidly easy to grind for IF you're established as a player and know how to grind efficiently.

The trick to getting the normal items is to learn to distract the harvester and do nothing but that after enforcing yourself as the authority and making sure that everyone knows how to deal with the graves. Most humans can be programmed to break graves and kill whatever pops out, but very few are going to be able to deal with the harvester without being trained to do so.

The trick to getting the aura is to find 3 players that are in the same position as you are, establish roles for yourselves and then grind night and day skipping arenas etc. It really isn't fun and if at all possible I would recommend you to just buy the aura from someone or earn it over the course of like 5 events.

Mo, 02/02/2015 - 00:59
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the darkest of dreams, the brightest of stars

Practically speaking, an aura will only take around ~20-25 hours if you're actually good and you run with semi-decent parties. It's not like you need a full squad of grizzled veterans - having at least one other person in the group with the right equipment and know-how will work just fine. Granted, 25 hours is still a sizeable chunk of time, but that's to be expected for the big prize.

Grinding at maximum output with dedicated teams would honestly slice that time in half, but most people don't do that.

The problem is, many peeps have sub-optimal loadouts and/or limited experience with Apocrea, which throttles how quickly they can get anywhere - and since the event is so insanely short now, many people won't get much of a learning experience from it. Regardless of how quickly one can progress, a single week just feels unreasonably short.
Glorious OOO devs pls bless us with clocks

Mo, 02/02/2015 - 05:03
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edit: DOes anyone know exactly what time this finishes on 3 Feb???

It should end at 12am PST on the 4th (when the new prestige missions appear)

Di, 02/03/2015 - 05:25
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I'm vohtarak, call me by thaf name

I exceeded my expectations and Iwill probably get the aura next event, just a side note

More on point, its probably more fair if all events are at least 2 weeks, the 7 day cut was ok for the other events but its just stupid for an event thats already this short, 2 weeks gives time to get the item you want and leaves room for a skipped day, but one week, if you miss a day, is ridiculously penalizing with the already short time alotted to complete your goal

Di, 02/03/2015 - 06:25
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I came back for this event,

I came back for this event, but I already gave up on it. It's too short.

Back to dota 2 I guess.

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