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A short range gun
Mo, 01/07/2013 - 13:02
#52
necro much -.-
Mo, 01/07/2013 - 13:22
#53
Yup.
My own thread, actually. Posted by an alt. And a still totally useable idea, methinks.
Mo, 01/07/2013 - 14:52
#54
But the problems still apply
Why not just use a sword? it would do the same things.
Mo, 01/07/2013 - 15:12
#55
I addressed that argument earlier in the thread.
Mo, 01/07/2013 - 16:16
#56
But your reason doesn't make sense. Swords, guns and bombs serve different purposes, there's no reason to make every weapon type work for every situation. And I think the RSS wasn't changed because it was "not bomblike", I think it was because it was "too gunlike". Now, while this "shotgun" is not "not gunlike", mechanically it is "too swordlike"- it hits in a small area in front of it, dealing damage and knockback. Or even the version that "pulses" around you - that's too much like a Levi charge.
Mo, 01/07/2013 - 16:31
#57
"And I think the RSS wasn't changed because it was "not bomblike""
It was specified quite literally by Nick, iirc that the RSS was changed because it was "not bomblike enough".
Also I'm not sure what you mean by 'pulsing' thing. I don't recall mentioning a 360 spread mechanism.
It has the the spread of a sword, yes. But ultimately, total range is great than that of a sword. If you're comparing it to a sword, you may as well compare the Spur-line to a gun, or the Levi to a bomb.
The whole point is that it's a Knockback gun. Short range, quick shots, small clip and low damage to balance. I may make a few alterations when I'm more competent at weapons development in a few hours while my brain changes gear, but for the most part I'm pretty sure it's fine. It's a gun that doesn't outclass swords or bombs in it's effect, rather, is more likely to be outclassed, but it's mechanics should be effective enough to make up for that shortfall.
Mo, 01/07/2013 - 16:50
#58
But he also said, " guns fire bullets, bombs create areas of damage, and swords do a mix of the two." Doesn't this gun fall into the sword category - fires bullets that create areas of damage? *coughpulsarcough*
Mo, 01/07/2013 - 19:30
#59
With that logic, anything is comparable to a sword. DR's multi-hits to the Cutter series, any pushback weapon to a Heavy Sword, all ranged weapons to Ranged swords; seriously, may as well compare the Antigua's Charge final-shot to the DA/Faust series.
It's a gun. I can't change that singular mechanism because then the gun will not be what it is supposed to be. It's not several weapons rolled into one, because it's different. It operates like a gun, handles like a gun, damages like a gun.
Imagine if the Pulsar/Catalyzer line didn't exist and someone suggested it now. The only argument against it would be that it's either of too OP because it's pretty much a grenade launcher.
It's a gun, so quit comparing it to a sword because they're not going to end up doing the same thing. One deals high damage in a short range with some knockback, this is supposed to deal low damage in a long-er range with High knockback.
Mo, 01/07/2013 - 17:26
#60
Nick said that as an excuse to get out of explaining the changed shard bombs.
I respect dog poop more than that sentence. It can be bagged and disposed of.
Mo, 01/07/2013 - 18:57
#61
I'd say create a gremlin gun...
GRENADE LAUNCHER!!!! Yeah like those gremlin bomb scatterers execpt make it shoot one at a time with smaller blast radius and longer range and quicker detonation
:Cant move while firing,
same damage as nitrodome can shoot two at once. explode on impact.
elemental damage and also make it look HUGE!
"Explosive Slugger"
Mo, 01/07/2013 - 19:04
#62
^
"Imagine if the Pulsar/Catalyzer line didn't exist and someone suggested it now."
Oh, look what happened...
Mo, 01/07/2013 - 19:30
#63
As you've noticed, Kreeara is a whishful thinker. Whether or not the weapon is good, he/she will suggest it as long as 'its awesome'.
Di, 01/08/2013 - 05:59
#64
I know you right psycho maniac?
right*?
Di, 01/08/2013 - 11:42
#65
No, you don't.
I'm pretty sure I know to what you are referring to. But The RSS was considered 'not bomblike'. I'm fairly certain this is 'gunlike' enough.