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So why hasn't there been another expansion mission after roughly 15 months?

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Thu, 04/25/2013 - 19:44
Neodasus's picture
Neodasus

Does OOO hate money?

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 19:56
#1
Amaki's picture
Amaki
Uh ...

Assuming for the moment this isn't a terrible joke, it's probably because there's better value in continuing to market CE sales.

Either that or they haven't found a good enough story to justify a separate mission, I don't know.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 20:47
#2
Klipik's picture
Klipik

Because the last one went so well. More exclusive, spammy, arguably overpowered weapons, anyone? No thanks.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 22:10
#3
Sweet-Hope's picture
Sweet-Hope

i wouldnt mind another expansion mission as long they dont make another mission were everything its gray and red with a boring music that make you feel sleepy and get tired to play the same levels without color.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 22:44
#4
Neodasus's picture
Neodasus
I don't even care about the

I don't even care about the weapons. I just want some content.

pls ooo content, no gimmicks give me content

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 23:21
#5
Etendue's picture
Etendue
Three Rings will be Three Rings

Three Rings is simply slow at putting out content. It can't compare to larger studios in this respect.

This is also why many players quit SK.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 23:30
#6
Xtweeterx's picture
Xtweeterx
@Sweet-Hope: How dare you

@Sweet-Hope:

How dare you insult Harry Mack's orchestral work...

@Etendue:

Having new content late is better than having no new content at all AM I RIGHT?

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 23:36
#7
Etendue's picture
Etendue
I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY!!

I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY!!

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 04:17
#8
Aureate's picture
Aureate

Perhaps, but you do have to admit it's frustrating having to wait for ages for new stuff to come out. :U

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 04:20
#9
Iamnoone's picture
Iamnoone
"Does OOO hate

"Does OOO hate money?"
NOOOOO!!!!
Quite the opposite.
/hopes I don't get banned here

They love money. They love it sooo much...
they're planning on selling us out. No new content to come only their future careers with Sega/EA and whatever the other aliases they are working under as indie game developers.

The way I see it, CE prices don't matter. Neither does the fact that few new users are joining. So what if you can't give away a 2* item anymore let alone sell one. All online game bugs and glitches will be resolved. New content will be added. Even why that horrible UI we all hate and was shoved down our throats will be explained.
How you ask...
Easy EA buys Sega...which nets the buy of SK... pokemon style critters get stuck in there...sonic (yes I've been stalking XD) shows up...SK becomes a console game (hence the game console style UI that is needed so badly against online users wishes) with additional content in the form of purchasable updates/games like the SIMS did...and to be played on the next generations of consoles coming out later this year.

Hey Nick, did I hit it on the head? And why Sonic?

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 05:07
#10
Krakob's picture
Krakob
SK community please

"OMG WHY AREN'T YOU RELEASING CONTENT?!?!?!?!?!!?1+1?!?!?!?!?1?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?ONE"
"OMG STOP RELEASING CONTENT AND BALANCE THE GAME!!!!!"
"OMG STOP BALANCING THE GAME AND GIVE US SOME PROMOS!"
"OMG STOP THE PROMOS WE NEED LEGIT CONTENT!"
"OMG YOU'RE TRYING TO GAIN MONEY WHILE ALSO RELEASING CONTENT THAT IS COOL WEAPONS THAT AREN'T OVERPOWERED AT ALL YET WE ALL THINK THEY ARE!"
"OMG STOP RELEASING WORTHLESS CONTENT AIMING TO RENEW THE ARCADE!!"
"OMG STOP DEVELOPING STUFF ALL THE NUBS ARE SUGGESTING ALL THE TIME, JUST GIVE US SOME BALANCE!"
"OMG STOP DOING SURVEYS WE WANT NEW CONTENT LOCKED BEHIND A FEE OF $5 OR SOMETHING!!"

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 06:46
#11
Zeddy's picture
Zeddy
^

What he said.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 11:45
#12
Mtax's picture
Mtax

I hope, that new expansion give us not weapons, but armors... ;]

Maybe they will give us some after Battle sprites?

"Either that or they haven't found a good enough story to justify a separate mission, I don't know."

5 mins in toailet.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 07:21
#13
Dragonicblaze's picture
Dragonicblaze
Umm..

It shows how things have gotten, they just cannot balance their work load.. What do you expect? They chose to waste their time on that ridculous UI instead of something more legit for the game.. They are not even trying to explain their actions so all I can say for now is that the devs don't undestand how to do things and what is important and what is not.

At first they put out promos every month, now they suddenly stopped it for months. They said they will be putting out more DLC contents but stopped at 1.. They listen to 8 year olds who think this game is too hard and the solution for it is not to get ebtter gear and strategize.. but to NERF the shizz out of everything. Sigh.

I agree that the community has its problems as well.. people asking for new content and Kilpik saying that content bought with real money is not supposed to yield good rewards such as good weapons?.. DB is not OP.. hammer is only good in t1 and t2 LD (not even PVE).. yet it is easily counterable with skill and strategy.. but no lets whine some more. Whatever, I dont think I can blame them, we are all getting restless.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 07:28
#14
Neodasus's picture
Neodasus
@Dragonicblaze I am so proud

@Dragonicblaze

I am so proud to see that someone realizes the ineffectiveness of Hammer vs skilled players. I will disagree with you in PvE respects, because Hammer is an excellent weapon with a shock or freeze-based loadout. The hammer is a weapon with a very high skill floor but a very low skill ceiling. It's like the hadouken, in the respect that although a power tactic in its own right it can be countered by player skill. Weapons like the Polaris and Hammer can be easily countered, and if you die by any of these weapons you only have yourself to blame.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 07:28
#15
Amaki's picture
Amaki
...

5 minute in toilet.

Fixed, and somehow I have a hunch OOO takes a little more pride in their work than you suggest.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 07:50
#16
Canine-Vladmir's picture
Canine-Vladmir
OCH sucked.

Dude, that mission bombed. The only thing going for it was the weapons.
It was so terrible, first time, i didnt feel like completing it all.

and tha Hammer is terribly overpowered. I can score like 14k in Lockdown and that should worry you if you know how i play.
and its kinda not useful in PvE. With groups, you shouldnt dare do the 2nd swipe which hurtles all the enemies at your buddies.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 08:02
#17
Dragonicblaze's picture
Dragonicblaze
@Neodasus

Ah yes with freeze and shock situations and gun puppies and lumbers, it is extremely good. I was focusing on the 2nd swing of the hammer that leaves u very vulnerable in JK and fsc (3rd swing = death). Also glad there are still people who think of skill and strategy before branding weapons to be OP :P

@Canine_Vladmir 14k in t3 isnt great so.. considering the hammer does do a lot of dmg just like DA/GF. So no sir, u just need to improve urself instead of talking about hammer being OP..

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 08:05
#18
Aeolian's picture
Aeolian
Seriously?

In two years they released 1 expansion.

I think you're expecting too much.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 08:08
#19
Canine-Vladmir's picture
Canine-Vladmir
LOL!

@Canine_Vladmir 14k in t3 isnt great so.. considering the hammer does do a lot of dmg just like DA/GF. So no sir, u just need to improve urself instead of talking about hammer being OP

^LOL. BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
BGAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
LOL!

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 11:40
#20
Neodasus's picture
Neodasus
There is literally nothing

There is literally nothing for Tier 3 player to spend money on. Once we reach endgame, that's it. We'll spend at the most probably 9-30 dollars rolling UVs but then it gets extremely repetitive. This game has so much potential, just give us a level editor guys.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 11:57
#21
Mtax's picture
Mtax

"Fixed, and somehow I have a hunch OOO takes a little more pride in their work than you suggest."

Wake up. Where you seen good plot in that game? "Go to core" they said. Will be fun they said... And what? Core closed! Go to hell!
It looks like it been concocted on the spot. I say wrong?

"They listen to 8 year olds who think this game is too hard and the solution for it is not to get ebtter gear and strategize.."

Sad, but true...

@Vlad - 14k is much... but in T2.

--

That game surely needs new content - what is not UI, or stupid facilities, BUT maybe OOO finnaly came to his senses and tries to repair that, what already is here and that, what should be repaired centuries ago - By balancing weapons for example...

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 13:49
#22
Aureate's picture
Aureate

psst psst there's cool stuff going on in test forums again
although maybe not a great deal of cool stuff but still some cool stuff that isn't battle sprites

just sayin while you all rage about no new stuff

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:06
#23
Tantarian's picture
Tantarian
Hm

Maybe they realized how much of a [unpleasant] move was to have both premium currency and add things that can't be bought with the premium currency you already paid for.
They must have also realized how [unpleasantish] it was to make you pay for shadow lairs every damn time with CE though.
I don't even know what they are planning next.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:28
#24
Zeddy's picture
Zeddy

"That game surely needs new content - what is not UI, or stupid facilities"

I'm sorry, what? What exactly is it that you want from new content if not new levels and monsters? I don't know about you guys, but compounds are awesome. They're decently challenging, full of fun little puzzley bits, look beautiful, and get pretty frantic at the end. They're also somewhat randomized and as such feel a bit fresh every time.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:48
#25
Junecat's picture
Junecat

I suggest OOO to close down all the servers cause nothing they do makes these people happy.
But I'm happy :) ?

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 15:09
#26
Zinco's picture
Zinco
If i remember well, OOO is

If i remember well, OOO is currently testing a new type of monster (and a couple prestige missions/clockworks levels). The test servers are already up, the new monsters are fiends, and seem to be a bulkt/tanky kind of monsters.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 16:24
#27
Neodasus's picture
Neodasus
@Zeddy I've been to 10

@Zeddy

I've been to 10 different compound levels and they are all terrible. Difficulty is 0, payout is 0, entertainment is 0.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 16:33
#28
Fehzor's picture
Fehzor

In what way are they too easy? I find them decently challenging. I'd put them at about... 2/3s danger mission difficulty, which is comfortable.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 17:58
#29
Shidara's picture
Shidara
I found the Compounds to be

I found the Compounds to be underwhelming, and the fact that swarm-type enemies can only be found within these levels is disappointing. I personally breeze through these levels with little effort so I'm not particularly entertained by them. Of course, it is still new content, but I'm not really all that thrilled by it myself.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 18:51
#30
Hexzyle's picture
Hexzyle
@Neodasus

"...payout is 0..."

Oh that slaps me on the knee. Soloing Tier 3 Ravenous Warrens is one of my main sources of income now.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 20:30
#31
Neodasus's picture
Neodasus
@Hexzyle http://steamcommunit

@Hexzyle

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=141525127

really.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 21:00
#32
Iamnoone's picture
Iamnoone
Okay here's the real dish

Nick is sick and tired of all you whiny butt babies who want new content, hate the new content then pretends nothing was done. He's tired of all the complains, downers and miserable people who can't be pleased. His message to you was *$&# off!

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 21:05
#33
Zeddy's picture
Zeddy

That looks like depth 19 payout to me. Even-numbered stratum pay terribly even if it's an arena.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 21:15
#34
Xtweeterx's picture
Xtweeterx
For all those complaining about new content:

We still have the battle sprites to look forward to.

For those about the UI: Maybe they wanted a fresh start?

When I was a recruit, I quit for a long time after I found out they were teamed with SEGA, so I didn't get to see a whole lot of updates, but that doesn't mean I'm not a 2-year veteran.

Everything seems normal to me. Give them time. Maybe they're working on something in secret?

Now for some replies.

@Tantarian You can [also] get Shadow Keys in the Auction House. *LE GASP!*

@Canine-Vladmir: You can use the second swing to dodge or land another hit. You click twice to dodge, and click 3 times for 2 swings. And can we take PVP mode out of this? I already make the RT's look like babies with my Magma Driver.

Over all I think the updates are good. I've been looking for something to get me back in the game, but I'm tired of people barely giving constructive criticism or suggestions and making fun of OOO for the new UI and other updates.

I'll admit the new UI has its good things and bad things. But that's for a later post.

I respect your opinions of not liking something, but try not to sound mean about it.

Devilites got nerfed? CEEEEEEEELABRATION TIME COME ON!

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 22:08
#35
Klipik-Forum's picture
Klipik-Forum

@Neodasus: "I don't even care about the weapons. I just want some content."
Why does it have to come in the form of expansions? Why not just more missions, or better yet new arcade content?

@Dragonicblaze: About the hammer, I really don't want to get into it now, but I'll just say as I have many times before that the hammer is far too easy to use and far too effective for such ease of use. Yes, it might not be effective at high levels of LD, but how many people ever get there? As for PvE, I don't have one myself but it seems like an average weapon.
@Neo's response to Dragon: skill/power ratio is too low. too much power for not enough skill.

@people who say compounds aren't easy: brandish. BTB. Kthxbye.

@Everyone: I thought this was a thread about lack of expansions. How and why did it become about lack of content overall? 

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 22:31
#36
Etendue's picture
Etendue
It's reasonable for consumers

It's reasonable for consumers hold expectations about a product.

No need to be a fanboy of three rings. If they aren't doing their job well, it's our responsibility to remind them what we want.

P.S. I swear most of the SK community is 10-16. Otherwise, I'm incredibly disappointing in their maturity.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 22:26
#37
Amaki's picture
Amaki
Yes ...

But there's a difference between having expectations, and having failure to meet those expectations result in antisocial behavior.

Seriously, there have been several times I've felt rather sorry for the Game Masters because they have to wade through comments that basically accuse the developers of being lazy, greedy, ignorant, incompetent, etc. While everyone has things they'd like to be changed, myself included, I find it completely appalling that having things not go someone's way is a license to incessantly berate people. If there's a problem, say so, once. Maybe a couple times if nothing gets done over a reasonable period. There is absolutely no condition under which it is reasonable to insult the developers personally.

But, as you said, it seems a lot of people either are in early adolescence, or aren't being given any incentive to act their actual age.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 22:33
#38
Neodasus's picture
Neodasus
@Noklip I feel like if I

@Noklip

I feel like if I throw enough money at OOO things can get going. Honestly they need to give us some legitimate reason to throw money at them so we can get this game going again. What's the point of new arcade content if it's practically free?

Sat, 04/27/2013 - 01:13
#39
Mtax's picture
Mtax

@Zeddy, im trying to say, that pets absolutly isn't a way to get fun. Compounds are good.

Sat, 04/27/2013 - 02:02
#40
Hexzyle's picture
Hexzyle
@Neodasus

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=141525127
really.

Yep. And that screenshot confirms it.
Those levels rake in AT LEAST 2,000 crowns worth of beast materials.

Sat, 04/27/2013 - 02:22
#41
Mtax's picture
Mtax
@Hexzyle

Materials are nothing, unless you will go solo... and -500 crowns for elevator fee... Arcade is sick, thats all.

Sat, 04/27/2013 - 02:37
#42
Hexzyle's picture
Hexzyle
@Mtax

Materials are nothing, unless you will go solo... and -500 crowns for elevator fee... Arcade is sick, thats all.

Apparently materials are nothing. Do I have to spell everything out?.
Even with the 500 crown fee, you're still earning much more than Firestorm Citadel, while not even needing to have access to that 9-3 mission. Any 4 star Knight/Defender player can do this level and earn some serious dough.

And those Ravenous Warren levels are just spilling at the brim with Scales. I don't think I've done a run of them yet without getting at least 1 Drake and Dragon Scale, and 5 Beast Scales.

Sat, 04/27/2013 - 04:37
#43
Sir-Onox's picture
Sir-Onox
Am i the only one that just

Am i the only one that just wants a DLC with Herex for FUN?

I don't care about the weapons-reward, i would give my money to OOO if they do more expansion missions, but eh, opinions.

Sat, 04/27/2013 - 05:43
#44
Iamnoone's picture
Iamnoone
@ Amaki

/hugs
So nicely said.

"it completely appalling that having things not go someone's way is a license to incessantly berate people", which I agree with completely and assume you mean in the context of business or with others that we are trying to get something out of that we want or feel we deserve. Its also bizarrely atrocious to attack and blame children for their lack of success in obtaining what is wanted and deserved. All that's really being accomplished is putting a whole lot of negativity into the game and community and making things look like there a troublesome game with a nasty, irate community. That makes others who are new to the game and considering starting an account leave and not want to be here. It sends them looking elsewhere for other games to try. It brings down those who are here and makes some of them leave. The best of the bees stay, whining and complaining, ruining the game and it's community but they never hate it so much that they actually stop signing in. They just make everyone else not want to be here and act out in inappropriate ways. They make developers hate their job and site leaving them not wanting to do anything for the game and community.

/I feel Nick's voice growing inside of me again...
/types this one for Nick...
*%&$ off you nasty whining drama queens!!!

You people can be so stupid. There's a right way and a wrong way of doing things. And you got it all wrong. To dirty up a forum yelling at it's creators, owners and staff about things you don't want/want and then complaining they don't read them so you go and make more and more and more is insane. Hoping for, wanting and trying to get a different resolute from the same action is the definition of insanity. There are better ways.

How many of you contacted support when our shard bombs stopping working asking why they don't kill anymore?
How many of you contacted support about the crowns and mist that vanished from your account when the new UI was installed?
How many of you called, emailed or snail mailed OOO?

Hey, I understand, it's easier to be a lame forum drama queen. I wish OOO would create a random variable in all monsters which would make a monster blow up in your face when attacked immediately killing you.

Sat, 04/27/2013 - 08:00
#45
Neodasus's picture
Neodasus
There an OOO defense force?

There an OOO defense force? Seriously? Dang dude, that's like borderline Stockholm syndrome.

@Hexzyle

Nobody buys mats. I don't see any bids there.

Sat, 04/27/2013 - 08:59
#46
Amaki's picture
Amaki
Nah.

Just a general decency defense force. I'd do the same for any developer ... well, possibly excluding EA, but that's a different story.

Though I will say the poster above me may have overreacted slightly. No need to use that kind of tactics.

Sat, 04/27/2013 - 09:17
#47
Little-Juances's picture
Little-Juances

They been releasing danger missions. They could have charged for those (either half of OCH per mission or release in packs of 2) by adding a random reskin for completion.

They are just being nice.

Sat, 04/27/2013 - 09:28
#48
Iamnoone's picture
Iamnoone
"borderline Stockholm

"borderline Stockholm syndrome" was a good try but poster omitted the calculation of that attack that OOO has not victimized anyone or anything except for maybe it's self.

Sat, 04/27/2013 - 17:10
#49
Neodasus's picture
Neodasus
How many times do you run

How many times do you run Vana each day? Yeah. For what exactly? You're being held hostage and you're the last to realize it.

@Little-Juances

Danger missions are a step up, and actually have some difficulty to them. I would have loved to pay for them if they had a few more levels to each one. The payout is great and in some cases better than Vana, and they are actually fun to replay! There is nothing that is easily accessible(one time fee expansion mission or flat out free) that has any sort of replayability.

Sat, 04/27/2013 - 17:41
#50
Klipik's picture
Klipik

@Neo: So do I have to tell you about the time I spent all my Primal Sparks on Dragon scales and got enough money to make half of my 4* set?

Also, I try not to run FSC, because even though I basically funded my 5* set from it and got an Ancient Plate shield, I've already gotten sick of it. And danger missions are only appealing because you can't play them enough to get tired of them, plus they're chock-full of artificial difficulty.

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