Today's release notes can be found here: http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/89946
September 25 Update - Discussion
lol Asukalan must be dancing in happiness right now. well with this is seems the game is more f2p now, and the business of selling OCH trough steam is over.
Woohoo! Finally various people in Coalesce can play OCH with me and go spam hammer and DR everywhere!
So still no bug fix for the Seraphynx and other bugs? I'm seriously "a little bit" pissed now, since it's now almost 2 months bugged. Please look here:
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/88634
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/85670
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/89231
I'm still surprised how many people are able to play the same content again and again and again. Exception is PVP.
- Updating/Filtering in the Arsenal now works correctly with sprites
What was wrong with them before? What does it do now?
So, i just bought the dlc with real money to get the rare mission and stuff, and now everybody can have it free. It would be said that THIS IS NOT FAIR. At least the ppl who bought it (like me) could be rewarded with energy, or some kind of item to compensate us for this unfair situation Ò.ó
I just logged on to my main. Server reboot in 28 mins.
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Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
Oh [cold] snap hammers will be everywhere now...
BUT I DON'T CARE!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
The CE price is much higher than the 5$ people normally paid for.
I realize that now, with time you may earn it without spending money, but with that price I believe this is a fine idea.
This begs the question:
Will we still be able to buy OCH directly with money?
@Fashama: People were complaining about OCH being pay-to-win since it first came out. You can't use the "It has needed fixing for a while now" argument when OCH has been around far longer.
@autofire: i guess, because that option to buy OCH for those who want to stay completely as F2P. so users with steam funds or credit card can still buy it quickly without farm CE for it.
Now I hope there's a new expansion mission. Also seerus masks are almost worthless now.
WHaaaa?
Why do I have all four Danger Missions at once?
Umm what does adjusting the rarity of guild hall snipes mean?
The snipes look the same....I dont really notice a any change
I assume having all 4 danger missions accessible is to bump up prestige for related... discoveries in spiral spy
What happens to copies of OCH people had stockpiled in their steam accounts? Can you still trade them?
Also, LD metagame might be utterly destroyed for the next few weeks.
P.S: @Guiye: you bought OCH with real money, but if it was buyable with CE someone else would have had to pay real money to get that CE in order for you to buy it anyway. You end up essentially paying the same either way. Now, if they actually gave it out with no cost at all to anyone and everyone, I could understand your complaint. But they didn't.
I know I'm not the only player who feels a tad bit slighted by this maneuver, but we should get some recognition for having directly paid for the expansion. It could be a "vintage" WRH, or even just an artifact.
Kudos to OOO for sinking some of the CE though, I have to admit it's a little disconcerting to see players put 3000 energy offers up at one time.
Where's the new missions and boss? D:
Danger mission themed items are from another box... to be bought with energy, not prestige.
So be sure to rack up prestige.. for no reason.
/facepalm
Finally, OCH is buyable with CE/E. I like that they put a high amount of CE/E to buy it. That way, if people want it, but don't want to farm the ce, you can buy (C)E with real money. Or if you want to farm it, people will have another goal to accomplish that will take them a while(if you are patient enough to grind for 3,200 [C]E that is).
- Operation Crimson Hammer may now be purchased for 3,200 energy in the Mission Interface
WELL IT'S ABOUT DAMN TIME.
I already have OCH, but seriously though. It's about time.
reaction: screaming at the screen for 5 mins. booya. weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. then scream again.
@Traevelliath post #12 Where have you seen that I had mentioned Crimson Hammer? I meant to say that there are still annoying bugs with the Battle Sprites, and that I'm surprised that many people are doing stages like Vanaduke again and again (I'm sure many do that because of crowns, not because of fun). Learn to read please. I better logout for today, before I'm starting to get my SK Forum community headache again.
I WANT THE NEW BOSS AND MISSIONS OR ELSE I'M GOING TO (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
I also want to know what "adjusting the rarity of guild hall snipes" means?!
I was hoping that I finally could buy them without buying 3 more wings first but doesnt seems like that... *sigh*
So... what exactly has changed now with the guild hall snipes?
@Fashama: So you're saying my point is irrelevant? Then please point to me where in the patch notes they talk about sprite fixes. You made a complaint based on something completely unrelated to the patch, yet you call me irrelevant by responding with something from the patch?
It's the first time an Update makes me go 'weeeeeeeeeeee'. Dunno why, maybe the Dangerous boxes? I always wanted a Recon-like armor <3
The purchase expansion buttom doesnt work...
On the Steam client, purchasing Operation Crimson Hammer via the Missions interface fails. It doesn't take your energy, and you don't get OCH. We are working on a fix for this. Thanks for your patience, and sorry for the wait, Steam folks!
I opened my very first box.
I won a Bitter End. I think i want to sell it. (i already have a Grey Owlite)
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Will the OCH be limited time?
OCH being available for purchase with energy on the missions screen is permanent.
I wasted 6 dollars.... Also it should cost way more energy
Speaking of Spiral Spy, I wonder if it'll make a comeback now too, since the creator cited OCH not being purchasable with CE as one of the reasons he quit.
Putting OCH for CE is a little unfair. People who bought it should get a compensation. PEople like me who are underaverage and like this game could have grinded for it if it was for ce before. But it was for cash. I am a teeen player. I saved allowance for a week to buy it. We should be compensated. The advantage the population who bought OCH before had is now lost. Compensation should be given. OR at least if you make a new expansion those who bought OCH with money gets it for free or something.
Another update that only affects rich players :(
And still tons of bugs remain unfixed.
I'm not rich. In fact, I barely have any 5* equips. However, I can still afford OCH :/
I haven't experienced any recent bugs, except for the DA charge's wall bug. Considering the devs haven't fixed that in forever, it's probably here to stay :/
How is making OCH purchasable by Energy unfair?
by allowing more people access to previously inaccessible content is clearly making it fairer. In fact the previous arrangement was unfair to those who did not have access to a credit card or steam.
Also, why do you deserve compensation? Did you not receive what you paid for?
You paid $6 for OCH, and they gave you OCH, why are you entitled to anything more?
and even saying that 3200 energy is more than what $6 could get you, so they are still paying more than you.
are you going to compensate them because you had access to the rocket hammer before they did?
I purchased OCH a while ago, and this news is great, it means that there will be more people to run OCH with.
@Guiye-Pk, @Biggymoore
People have been asking for OCH to be obtainable ingame with CE for over a year now, and when they finally release the ability to do so, you have nothing better to do than complain about compensation? "Now everyone can get it" is a shamefully selfish thing to be saying in a F2P game.
You got to play the content a whole year before anyone else who didn't spend money on the game. Is that not good enough?
If the $6 was that big a deal to you, you should have never spent it in the first place. 3200 Energy is roughly $9 worth anyway, and I'd like to see any F2P player who is not yet 5 star nor a hundred hours into the game buy it.
Everywhere I turn, ridiculously pitiful complaints.
@Klipik-Forum, @Autofire
Nothing is changing about the old method of payment, I believe. You should still be able to trade/buy the DLC like you could through steam and through the site.
@Fourtarkus, @Biggymoore
Compensation? Pfft, for what? What are people who have had OCH for a year missing out on in this patch?
If people with OCH before this patch were to be compensated, what would all the people who have been unable to purchase OCH for the last year due to circumstance have to say?
@Fashama @Traevalith
Traev. Shhh. Fashama misunderstood your post. Fash thought you were talking solely about OCH. If you knew this already then your comment #28 is argument bait. Don't do that.
Fash, Traevalith was stating the fact that you have no right to complain about Battle Sprites bugs not being fixed in this update because OCH has been waiting to be fixed for over a year now, while Battle Sprites have been out for only two months.
@Sirius-Voltbreaker
Wasted? You got your $6 worth of content, what are you complaining about? And what? You want the ingame price to be 5000+? You want to force others to pay double what you paid? And that's assuming that you didn't buy it when it was on sale. If you got it when it was $3.00, then you're essentially asking others to pay over four times how much you paid for it.
Greedy troll is greedy.
TL;DR - The OCH DLC patch being only originally obtainable through real money purchases was the biggest blow this community ever took. The issue is finally resolved and the game can now be called Free to Play again. If you want your compensation, you're obviously not one of the thousands of players who were hit hard due to not being able to purchase the pack. If anyone is to be compensated, it should be those people.
EDIT: Oh, I've been ninja'd.
I am a IRL underaverage player. I technically wasted $6 US (40 of my country's currency) on the game. if they had said it was 3200ce before... I could have just grinded for it and not waste real money. THis is why we should be compensated. Its not selfish, just unfair you paid real cash for something that can now be easily accessible through grinding..
Oh god just stop. @hexzyle said all you need to know and he's right. When purchase will be fixed for steam users?
On the whole "I wasted 6$" arguement
I would love to see you when you hit 18 (or 19-20-21-23-25 depending on where you live) and see how much HUNDRED of dollars you will spend in one night and won't even remember it the next day
But hey it's worth it right?
it's 6$.... you can have a dinner with that... you gave a dinner to OOO for making a good F2P game... WOW so much waste... 'murica in a nutshelll -_-
still love what you do though, can't help it... >.<
Edit: and with that rant I forgot to tell my opinion
Great update, prestige missions can be farmed somewhat efficiently, I feel kinda bumbed farming it slowly, one 180 prestige mission per day -_- although farming will be better from now on and also funnier. Don't have to do LoA if I don't want to and can skip to C42 or Ghost ^ ^
OCH with ce purchase is awesome, I bought OCH for 1.48$ at xmas last year (steam sale... gave one to my friend ^ ^ less than 5$). I can't wait for hammer bros everywhere! XD
Also dat DR spam will be phenomenal!!!!!!!!!!! o.O I can see JK getting spanked already
I technically wasted $6 US (40 of my country's currency) on the game. if they had said it was 3200ce before... I could have just grinded for it and not waste real money
What are you even complaining about? Because I'm failing to see the point you're trying to make. They did announce previously that they were working on a way to make OCH purchasable with CE ingame. If that $6 was that valuable to you, you would have done your research, and waited patiently. You obviously felt that OCH was worth the $6 back when you bought it, that's why you spent the money on it, right? What seems to be the problem?
I have no idea why it took you so long, but at least you got it done.
Thanks.
I have no idea why people are [going on] about OCH. You had it for over a YEAR before other people did. 6$ is about 2K CE, so if you want to buy it in-game it's still more expensive $/CE wise.
Tbh, I don't see a LOT more hammers. 3.2K CE is still a lot for the majority.
Sure, we'll see more, but I don't see us getting a ton more.
It was over twelve months ago. You paid fifty cents a month to have it a year before everybody else.
I'm too tired to read these recent comments, but I was one of the people who purchased OCH on Steam shortly after it came out.
Everyone complaining about not being 'compensated' are the same as those who complained about buying TF2 before it became F2P.
You don't deserve compensation because the fact that you paid for it means you got early access to it and the loot.
If you didn't want to spend money on it, then you shouldn't have even bought it in the first place, regardless of whether or not it could be purchased with energy eventually.
But I do like that we can acquire it now as free players. One thing I love about this game is that all content is available to every player. This change made the only paid content free, more or less.
I can't wait to see what new hammer tactics are created.
I like it. Thanks for the update! However... that means my Dark Retribution just became a whole lot less rare. But that's a good thing, right?