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Respect and honor in LD

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Mon, 04/28/2014 - 07:53
Holy-Nightmare's picture
Holy-Nightmare

Regarding 1v1s: If you see two players strafing with their guns and duking it out just leave them be. (however do be ready to pick off the other team's player should they win.)

Keep your eye on the chatbox. Often players will request 1v1s with someone on the other team, don't ruin their fun but be prepared to engage them after the duel.

Don't farm the noobs for damage. It is tempting but it shows maturity if you only engage them when necessary (capturing points or defending), going out of your way to kill them drives potentially good players from LD (after all do you want a grudge holder to back themselves out of a 2v2 just so you will get killed?).

Don't hurl insults at the player who kills you just accept it try to take them out next time you see them or team up with teammate and work together.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 08:33
#1
Retequizzle's picture
Retequizzle

or this

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 08:36
#2
Reto-Da-Liz's picture
Reto-Da-Liz

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Mon, 04/28/2014 - 08:39
#3
Holy-Nightmare's picture
Holy-Nightmare
EXPLAIN!

EXPLAIN!

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 08:55
#4
Retequizzle's picture
Retequizzle

why should i reinforce the notion that 1v1s are indicative of anything in LD by sitting by and letting people do it

i'll stick to crashing whatever party i deem necessary, and i won't lose any sleep over it

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 10:11
#5
Krakob's picture
Krakob

I'm okay with people doing one on ones but when it gets in the way of people who actually want to play the game, it's just rude. For example, I was in RLD the other day. Two people were doing one on one duels, which is fine. But they were doing it at a point and they were annoyed when people came in there and interrupted because they intended to defend or attack the point to bring their team closer to victory.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 10:15
#6
Dragneel-Wiki's picture
Dragneel-Wiki

no

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 12:46
#7
Tessarekt's picture
Tessarekt
Neiher respect nor whining (raging) will work.

This is really naive.

Besides, most players who 1v1 in RLD are very rude with their "can't you see we're trying to 1v1 here you f[redacted]ing noob stupid [redacted]hole" and for that reason I won't refrain from fighting anyone in sight. Besides you should stick to doing 1v1's in GvG, it's rude and incosiderate to just assume players won'tattack you just because you and your buddy just wanna fight eachother.

The most fun matches I played so far were against spanish bandido players since they don't cry about AT and polaris. If you don't whine like a little [redacted], fighting is a lot more fun. If you're getting mad it means your'e not having a good time in which case your best option is to either suck it up or leave, neither screaming profanities or having 'respect and honour' will improve your state of mind.

Either just man up and deal with it, or leave the match. It's really simple.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 13:58
#8
Deleted-Knight's picture
Deleted-Knight
The Lockdown Code of Honor1.

The Lockdown Code of Honor
1. People should greet and salute each other before engaging in battle. After dying, you must bow respectfully to the person who defeated you.
2. If someone says they have low health, they should be allowed to retreat peacefully to a place to heal. You can only attack them if they attack you.
3. No running away during a fight. That's cowardly. If you turn your face away from your opponent, you lost the duel even if you win.
4. Gunners can only fight gunners because shooting at someone when they are too far away to hurt you back is cowardly.
5. Recons must always use their mark to warn an enemy before striking.
6. You must let your opponent finish neutralizing or capping a point before interrupting them.
7. No double teaming/gang banging without permission from the person being ganged up on.
8. After each match, everyone must bow respectfully to everyone on the other team.
9. People who leave (not disconnected, but leave) need to be publicly humiliated if they ever return.
10. No insults.
11. No complaining.
12. No insults.
13. No angry comments.
14. No insults.
15. No---I think you get the picture.

There are many other ones, for example:

-If you kill someone using AT, you must let them get a free kill on you after they come back.
-If you kill someone with the help of UVs, you must let them get an extra hit on you the next time you fight.
-You can't interrupt anyone (especially bombers) while he/she is charging. That's rude.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 14:17
#9
Seiran's picture
Seiran

@Auto-Target:
haha. funny list.
First one reminds me of a certain crazy game I used to play where people would /bow to someone to in the middle of a team match to try to confirm a duel (it would start as soon as both people bowed).

Oh, don't forget, if someone's standing still, it's because they're typing and/or lagging, and you're not allowed to hit them when they're typing*

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*in all seriousness, if you type outside of base, you deserve whatever comes to you.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 14:34
#10
Retequizzle's picture
Retequizzle

lagging one is the only one i ever adhere to and it's only if i know the person well enough to know the difference, i.e. i'm either on skype with them mid-game or something like that

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 16:24
#11
Holy-Nightmare's picture
Holy-Nightmare
For the LOLS

I kind of figured that this thread would end up like this. (so I made it for fun) XP

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 18:30
#12
Oroseira's picture
Oroseira
I am the King of the Hipsters [citation needed]

"You can't interrupt anyone (especially bombers) while he/she is charging."

Stop giving me incentive to make a full gunner loadout and kill all bombers.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 18:39
#13
Ill-Fate-Ill's picture
Ill-Fate-Ill
People's idea of

People's idea of honour:
-Don't kill people in proto armor
-Don't kill people in wolver armor
-Don't kill them when they're typing
-Don't kill them when they're capping
-Don't kill them when they're out of Striker Boost
-Don't kill them when they're out of Recon Cloak
-Don't kill them when their Guardian Shield breaks
-Don't kill them when they're handicapped by status effects
-Don't kill them when they're not concentrating
-Don't kill them when they're lagging
...or just don't kill them or they'll call you AT noob.

(All done without the help of Ctrl+C/V)

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 18:50
#14
Sandwich-Potato's picture
Sandwich-Potato

Pfft Phantom go and FoV charge them instead.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 20:47
#15
Pawsmack's picture
Pawsmack
@OP/Holy-Nightmare

All of this isn't even up to the players. (Interrupting 1v1s, pounding on unexperienced players, etc.) It's up to OOO's to "fix" all of this by revamping Lockdown and adding in a 1v1 function as well as a ranking system. Which probably won't ever even happen considering Lockdown is nothing close to anything in any kind of truly competitive nature. We all play for fun and we're all entitled to do whatever we want to do inside of it. (Except for break the rules of the ToS that is.) Whether this be ruin some 1v1 taking place at a base you want to cap so your team can win or fighting anyone and everyone you can just because you enjoy taking on other players of all sorts.

EDIT: You guys forgot one by the way, don't injure death marked players.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 22:13
#16
Shaunfrost's picture
Shaunfrost
hehehehehe....

if you get killed try killing him back with an lionheart honor blade so he or she will be embarased in front of everyone!
hehehe..
guys
dont take this seriously.
(>^_^)>

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 22:35
#17
Poothis's picture
Poothis
Tried, Doesn't Work

I think doing 1v1 is quite fun, just duking it out with only one other person. BUT, it's horribly difficult to get a good fight in because nobody knows who is who and what is what and end up smacking you or your opponent anyway. Also, I always notice that it screws one of the teams over when a 1v1 goes on, but that's just me. I would wish OOO could implement something like a 1v1 thing, but of course that wouldn't really work and will most likely never happen. But again, that's just me.

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 00:19
#18
Feyi-Feyi's picture
Feyi-Feyi

Respect should be earned, not expected.

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 00:59
#19
Oroseira's picture
Oroseira
I am the King of the Hipsters [citation needed]

@Solanales
Sure, and then get shocklocked.

But really it goes like this: Bombers lose to Gunners who lose to Swordsmen who lose to Bombers.

Who all lose to Supernova/Polaris.

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 01:02
#20
Shaunfrost's picture
Shaunfrost
ummm...

newbies? i guess

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 06:50
#21
Seiran's picture
Seiran
:;

@Pawsmack:
All of this isn't even up to the players. (Interrupting 1v1s, pounding on unexperienced players, etc.) It's up to OOO's to "fix" all of this by revamping Lockdown and adding in a 1v1 function as well as a ranking system.

No way. These issues are between the players. Players can decide to be jerks or they can decide to let people have fun.
ex: despite being recon, I can usually end up being 2nd-or-highest damage in the game, so I play around with other loadouts unless my team really wants to win, or if there are tryhards on the other team.

@Phantomhamachi:
Stop giving me incentive to make a full gunner loadout and kill all bombers.

It's a little known fact, but Blitz charge can pretty much OHKO bombers while they're running around charging. Thanks, lack-of-invincibility-frames-during-charge!

If you're the king of the hipsters, that'd put you along side ol' Tsubasa-no-me.
She had the best hipster gear (iirc, had a ctr/asi double UV on her iron slug- it was glorious) and loved the troika line more than me ;_;

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 08:30
#22
Krakob's picture
Krakob
@Feyi

Depends on what kind of respect we're talking about. If we're talking respect as in people respecting your ability to play, then yes. If we're talking about stuff like bigotry, insulting, and just general rudeness, then no.

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 15:15
#23
Pawsmack's picture
Pawsmack
@Seiran

It is up to OOO's though because they're really the only one's up to the task at hand. All of the community attempts in the past have either failed, caused another player to sacrifice their primary source of enjoyment, or have been cases like yours in which you don't mind just doing whatever is pleasing/holding up fine with the crowd. (i.e. http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/96009 and all the way down to single individuals sacrificing their own enjoyment of the game just to please another.) You can't expect everyone in Lockdown to respect other people's ways of having fun in the game because it may just ruin theirs in return. You on the other hand may be able to adapt to the game around you and wish to respect other player's wishes but not everyone wants to do that. It's not even about being a jerk either. I gave two examples in my previous post:

"Whether this be ruin some 1v1 taking place at a base you want to cap so your team can win or fighting anyone and everyone you can just because you enjoy taking on other players of all sorts.", which is all pretty self explanatory so I won't be going over it simply because you can just relate other parts of my post towards this.

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 15:28
#24
Seiran's picture
Seiran

:P

Well now, that's partly why I'd support the addition of player-managed lobbies in Lockdown as opposed to only having random matches available.

GvG is the closest we have to it, and is currently how most 1v1s and "training" rooms are actually done (larger guilds form a subguild that they invite their members to when they want to practice/play with each other). Those are player-led solutions to those issues (1v1s, lack of 'training rooms' for Lockdown, and having matches with specifically the people you want to play with).

If it's an issue in random matches, though, that's an uncontrollable void lol.

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 15:59
#25
Pawsmack's picture
Pawsmack
@Seiran

There are specific problems within random Lockdown that are controllable though, controllable by OOO's. Precisely what we're discussing about right now. 1v1s and random matches and also how players go about them being mixed together. If there was anything remotely close to a 1v1 system and a ranking system both then it would get rid of all of the conflict surrounding this area in Lockdown. No more pounding on those lesser than you and also no more 1v1s at where they're not supposed to be. It would also save players all of the trouble of going through what they have to go through right now in order to achieve these things. And let's not even mention all the conflict regarding subguilds vs their main guilds.

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 18:36
#26
Retequizzle's picture
Retequizzle

If you're the king of the hipsters, that'd put you along side ol' Tsubasa-no-me.
She had the best hipster gear (iirc, had a ctr/asi double UV on her iron slug- it was glorious) and loved the troika line more than me ;_;

the king of the hipsters has been overthrown

let's also not forget that we both partake in triglav wars somewhat often ourselves, so this wouldn't have been a discussion had we included that anyhow

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 07:29
#27
Krakob's picture
Krakob

But Tsubasa was the queen of hipsters!

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