Spiral Knights - I Just Realized Some Useless Things / Updates

I Just Realized Some Useless Things / Updates

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Mon, 05/05/2014 - 07:20

Glad-Amparus

That

- The forge is useless (Why is it even here? We could have expanded the heat leveling as it was before.)

- The black Kat pet sprite is useless (Accessories spreading onto sprites now)

- Accessories are useless (oh lewk at mai maahvelus regal crest. It lewks dashing...!
-richfolk)

- Shard bomb throwaway was useless (We could have kept shard bombs, and perhaps made another similar bomb that resembles crystal, but has the current new shard bomb mechanism)

- Prestige is useless (unless it changes in the distant future)

- Reskins are useless (how did you get that huge chef's butcher troika?!?)

Not a rage thread... Just stating facts.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 07:32

Colray

If it is not a rage thread...

Did you want to discuss it? Or just state the obvious?

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 07:36

Sylveon

Too little too late

Useless is a subjective term. Sorry, but your 'facts' are nothing more than opinions.

The forge has a use; its primary one is to slow down player progress, so you cannot just go from 0* to 5* in a single day through FSC Ragegrind. Doing nothing but FSC isn't playing the game. It's just a chore at that point. You'll find plenty of Fire Crystals in Clockwork tunnels (including their Danger Rooms) if you really want to grind them that badly. It's secondary use is giving players a chance to score some free rolls at Punch, subtly trying to fuel the flames that is the human desire to gamble. It's easy to see why the Forge is unpopular, but it's a fair trade-off for removing elevator costs. And trust me, I don't know a single person who wants elevator costs to return.

Customization options for cosmetics exist in many F2P games. It generates revenue for the company, and gives endgame players something nice and shiny to look at. Reskins are nothing more than an alternative cosmetic for players to collect if they choose to do so. Other games have alternate skins, what makes them any less useful? Once again, the Dev team currently active consists mainly of artists, so again, this is what we have to deal with, sadly. Black Kat pet is merely cosmetic, and is in no way forced upon you. You don't have to pick one up if you do not want it.

Shard Bombs are indeed garbage, but they were the way they were because of their limited knowledge at the time of their creation. Sadly, this is the sewage that is left over. It would be nice if we had an alternative, but bombs always got the short end of the stick.

Prestige currently is for nothing more than bragging rights. And hey, with the big egos some people have, they'll use any little thing. Even a meaningless number (like Lockdown damage!) can push their ego.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:05

Skepticraven

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Not a rage thread? These are all facts? Let me take them one by one.

- The forge is useless (Why is it even here? We could have expanded the heat leveling as it was before.)
To slow down P2P progress. They probably believed that a P2P new knight would advance through the game too quickly. F2Pers get about the same speed before and after the change. I did the math.

- The black Kat pet sprite is useless (Accessories spreading onto sprites now)
It still fully functions as a seraphynx, of which I believe is the best of the sprites. Far from useless.

- Accessories are useless (oh lewk at mai maahvelus regal crest. It lewks dashing...!-richfolk)
The modify the aesthetics of your armor. Some people like to make their avatars look better. I'm not one of them, but there is a demand for it.

- Shard bomb throwaway was useless (We could have kept shard bombs, and perhaps made another similar bomb that resembles crystal, but has the current new shard bomb mechanism)
I wont even bother commenting on this. I've made valid points in plenty of shard bomb threads in the arsenal subforum.

- Prestige is useless (unless it changes in the distant future)
Shows how long you have been playing and gives an icon in front of your name.

- Reskins are useless (how did you get that huge chef's butcher troika?!?)
Cleavers? They are obtained unbound. That means you could trade a 5* weapon and still make a profit for less than 4kE. Past that, refer to the accessories comment.

Seriously, get your facts straight. This is an opinion thread, not fact.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 09:38

Bopp

also

Also, the forge, accessories, and reskins have a very clear use: They are revenue streams for Three Rings. This is not a minor detail, that you can safely overlook. The game must generate revenue, if it is to survive.

In the case of accessories and reskins, you should be happy that they are not crucial to the game. The paying players get a bunch of stuff that you don't care about? This is the best possible outcome for you; you should be thrilled (but maybe not with forging).

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 10:03

Seiran

Yes! Seiran agrees with Bopp!

In addition to what Bopp said:

- I haven't made a Seraphynx yet, but I'm totally making a shadow one. aiiyyyeah reskins for player expression~
- Shardbomb throwaway wasn't completely useless for players. AFAIK, a lot of people profited / got very nice bonuses from the 'consolation' prizes that were mailed out for all the mass crafts. /frown

- @reskins and why them being 'useless' is good: ...Just remembering all the forum rage during the cosmic promo because the shield had unique stats.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 10:18

Krakob

@Seiran

Regarding the shard bombs, it was foolish of OOO to announce the tickets before handing them out. A lot of people abused it, I reckon. Item worth almost 20k for about 3.5k. Awful shmawful.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 10:22

Vinsfield

@Skepticraven

>Shows how long you have been playing and gives an icon in front of your name.
I disagree. I've been playing since January 2011 and right now I have 21k prestige (I like Arcade more than daily missions). Anyone can get that amount of prestige in a few months, so prestige doesn't shows anything useful.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 13:10

Seiran

@Krakob

And iirc, despite the blatant 'abuse' of it, nobody really got punished for it, right?

[edit, post-response]:
yeah :P
I see that issue as being equivalent to the Bolted Vee fiasco in terms of effect on players, but I guess Bolted Vee was a bug while the UV tickets were...

..?

..an exploit of good will? lol

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 11:24

Skepticraven

@Vinsfield

I should rephrase it to "can show how long you have been playing".
Lower prestiges cant tell much, but much higher values can definitely determine veteran players due to the maximum quantity that can be obtained daily. For example, someone with 100k prestige would have at minimum had to have played (some quantity) of months to obtain it.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 12:24

#10

Krakob

Well of course not, that'd be like putting up oh I dunno free Prismatic Bolted Vees on the Supply Depot and then punishing people for buying them ◔_◔

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