What's even worse is _eople who keep making new threads just to voice their own o_inion instead of _osting in an already made thread.

Sigh.
Why we can't keep all of this discussion in one thread, is beyond me.

Link to my game ? Sure I'll send you it when I'm done with it. Also the whole point with OOO slacking off is that they already do have all the core code down meaning they just need to use some of that to make new content.

Also about the LD not being balanced... I really don't see it... I mean I really don't. I mean Acheron's buff still leaves Acheron at pretty much the same level as the other brandishes(meaning they all kill people in 3 hits, well except you need higher uvs to survive more Acheron hits). Trinkets.... You guys make it sound like only strikers can use them and every other class can't.. I'll give you the Polaris comment though feyi, that gun is kind of unbalanced I guess.

@Skullcandy

1. box price still fine unlike other game which can make you spend up to thousand buck for costume
2. u lazy to farm those? orb price are still same as crafting when mist exist, and no pain no gain.. the world is not simple as you think~
3. i agree with skeptic, you should be happy because you can purchase it with ce rather than it exclusive for money spender only which is the reason why lot of people complain in old days~ and no for moar DLC
4. both player and OOO do the work.. from player who take advantage of lag player and scare newbie to weapon mechanic and bad server which being ignored by OOO for long time~ not only there is no mission which introduce people to LD.. you being forced to train in battlefield with high rank player (US people should be easy to adapt this but it's another story for people outside US, im not include EU because that server is haunted)
5. box is not update?
6. new content is not really a problem, but im worrying about server ability to stand or not become more worse after gunner update like what battle sprite update do which cause some people to leave (people outside of us and eu)
7. what if they come back? some do really come back to play again -_-'
8. yep, but the most important is they better give party who are in place when open gate ability to come back.. sometime when you dc and log back, they will send you to ready room (not sure this caused by lag, my friend with good connection throwed back to ready room) submit ingame support is not a solution and not all people know or use this feature~

Looks like a few people need to learn the mechanics of global gaming.

As much as we would like it to be, the time someone in asia presses the attack button and the time you see the attack are noticeably not instant. The hitboxes are due to kind of a "compensation" for ping. The system is set up to that someone from asia can see someone from US on their screen, and hit them there, and it will register, despite the US player not even being close on their screen, and vice versa. If it was set up to register on the server only, everyone would be playing blind. Until processing speed improves, this is clpse to the best that can be done. Its not the code OOO wrote that slows down the hit registering, its the actual limitation of the hardware used on all ends. Pretty much killed your "messed up hitboxes" argument there aviri

The only things with bad hitboxes are grogos, those ar just sad.

Now, with the displays messed up, I can see this. I dont get how my furious flamberge does 2/3 of its potential dmg, at level 4. Yet the bar shows its at like 6 or 7 eights of its dmg. That should be fixed.

Also aviri, to kill your sarcasm argument as well, OOO just provided everyone with the tools to become OP (UVs, pendants, damage boosting armor (especially BKC). We just used them. Its like providing a group of investors with insider info at a proportional price. The people who can pay more (spenders in SK orr rich investors) will end up with the better stuff (OP UVs and equipment, or more specific insider info).

So yeah, it is the players who made it unbalanced, not OOO.

By messed hitboxes i did not mean lag, i meant for several wrong hitboxes because of many flaws with swords when you actually perform a sword combo,this happens outside of LD and inside of LD too, but the thing is that, For example: When you swing any sword's 2nd hit, the hitbox of the actual swing is behind you, this is something kinda hard to notice, but it happens, i realized of this while trying to hit imobile objects , it turns out that if you swing a sword standing on one place, the 1st swing of a sword has more reach than all the rest of the combo, but when using the 2nd swing or 3rd, from the same distance as the 1st swing the hitbox is always less than what the animation suggests it is.
This happens EVERY TIME you are moving forward while Doing a sword combo, because you first swing, then move forward, meaning that the actual hitbox is always BEHIND the player instead of in front of it(Ever notice how yo can hit things that are standing on your sides?) this is also the reason why people rather shield cancel after the first swing of their Flourish, the 2nd and 3rd swing have a reduced reach and the sword's only strength vs its weakness is its reach, wich is taken away mostly because of this annoying bug. Another example is how little reach the brandishes/calibur 3rd swing has, sometimes you can even see your sword piercing through the monsters but no actual damage is dealt to them. This to me, is a major flaw and it is the main reason why the cutter line(Where this problem is most visible and obvious) is broken, i would be surprised if noone has ever brought this up before so i think this is nothing new here.

This also happened on the Troika's charge attack where the explosion from the sword's downward smash was generated in the point where the player was standing instead of where the actual animation should have placed it, and this flaw was so evident and dumb that everyone was complaining and OOO's fixed it (and i still can't understand how the devs did not see this huge flaw before releasing the update, or maybe they saw it but they released it anyway?)

Having in mind all the current flaws in this system i am very scared of what kind of balance this next update will bring to us... or if there will be any balance to it at all or just be recolored weapons with some new armors, wich after all this waiting it would just be spitting on the player's face.

And you've got to be kidding me if you really think that players break the game, it's like saying that if you allow the use of weapons in a soccer match, the game becomes just a pointless slaughter and when people criticize you for turning the game into pure violence you say "hey it's not my fault, the players ruined it by bringing machine guns, axes and katanas to play a soccer game".

A game is a game as long as you follow the rules you have set for it, the game also IS the rules you have set for it, so if weapons are allowed in a soccer game, then weapons are part of the game YOU have designed because YOU have allowed that to happen, the player's goal is just to win, not to build a game inside of your flawed and ridiculous game.

this argument is so dumb that the fact that i even have to answer to it bugs me to no end.

@Aviri

it seem to me all weapon have more hitbox than it animations~
this must be just because your client showing you attack near enemy but in server itself you still not too near with enemy (this mostly caused by ping and lag, but some are just server glitch)

@Drachronos

costume box are easy to made, and more easy because it just reskin.
but new content need coding and more attention because you have to find out if it balance or not, their art team already make those content.. we just have to wait for coding team and other important staff to work on it.

I'm not too unhappy about the update rarity. It seems like a decent pace and I definitely don't want daily updates. After all, who wants to sit around for 2 LD matches worth and not have much time left?

Anyways, weapon variety beats weapon retypes/reskins/restatus any day.

*Troll mode on*

Nope, i play game for more than 3 year, i know difference between server lag and trashy bug. Also immobile object have nothing to do with lag.

And this right here is why I skipped the last and current promo.

@Candy

You claimed that you opine how LD is unbalanced.

You believe that your opinion matters and others don't. My take is that since you didn't even care to explain in-depth, elaborate, give more examples or even put up a simple argument, your opinions are invalidated and therefore taken as what you claim to be "First of all, stop leaving stupid comments saying "Oh, I have already seen threads like this a million times." Good for you, then don't read this, not my problem."

Of course we've seen it a million times, each saying the same content over and over again. Need more balance! Need more guns! Need more content! Need more nerfing! Need more buffing! Need more this, need more that! Well good to know that we are turning this into a community game, bad to know that we are turning this into a game based on people's wants.

You have a suggestion/opinion, voice it coherently and substantiated in the suggestions' forums. You find LD unbalanced, tell the community what your view of "balanced" is. Don't come here and demand generally, then when the development team did what is as told, it was not as specific as what you would want it to be, and you made another demand again.

The whole game doesn't revolve around you either, there are other people with other ideas too, other demands, other wants. There is only so less people working in development and so many players out there, why do you think they would follow what you say, fulfill only your demand? Sure, everyone asked for pets and we got our sprites. Not everyone asked for your so called "balance", heck we don't even know what kind of balance.

All in all again, sigh, just appreciate the game. If you don't like it, leave, feel indifference for the game instead of hatred. The game does not choose to follow you, you choose to follow the game. If you think you can make a difference, go ahead, the forums are all yours. The opposite of love is indifference, not hate, there are people I hate so much I love them enough to care. Don't hate the game and fuss up over it, only to know that you can't change it no matter how hard you try. As always, good luck in your future endeavors.

First of all, long posts mean the person actually made alot of effot to make a good comment/post. Another thing that confuses me is that you want people to tell you how to improve on your threads, but how would you do that if you don't know your flaws? It's like an author wants to know on how to improve his writing in his next book but refuses to know what was wrong with the first book.

~Price they ask for boxes at promotions
It's 100$ optional almost the whole time, though there are very few exceptions like that cosmic shield and that piercing antigua of the most recent promo.
~Drop rate of orbs and crystals
Agreed, game's too grindy to be fun.
~Lack of DLC
...how is this bad? I mean, seriously?
~How unbalanced LD can be
This is also a problem. Heart pendants alone are game breaking. You can't do well without them unless the enemy players don't have them either or they're terrible players.
~Lack in updates
Agreed. There hasn't been a single update that wasn't bugfixes, promos or events. The changes on history look promising though.
~Lack in new weapons and armor (Even if a gunner update is coming, which has been delayed for months)
Agreed too, though the new torto shields were neat despise being only obtainable on their event.
~Profile control (People that have been inactive for years should be disbanded for the name openings and less data)
I don't know about that. There's always that one guy who comes back after all that time.
~The occasional glitch in shadow lairs, etc.
What glitch exactly?

You have pretty much covered most of the main problems of the game , OP (DLC certainly is NOT one of them though). Also, the combat is a bit too simplistic. It lacks depth to not make it repetitive. Extra skills or other ways to use the weapons, along with other new combat mechanics would make it more interesting. Enemies could also be made more interesting by, for example, having their own dialogue lines like they do on the April Fools' day, but better implemented. More complex puzzles than "hit this, throw that, take that 100kg statue there" to make the gameplay more varied. There's a lot of possibilites to improve the game, but OOO is more interested in milking its playerbase by churning out promotions (and seem to start trying to sell exclusive gear for higher tiers too) and making it really grindy.

Really? That makes no sense. It clearly had the style of an antigua. Why the hell would it shoot like a blitz?

"You have a suggestion/opinion, voice it coherently and substantiated in the suggestions' forums. You find LD unbalanced, tell the community what your view of 'balanced' is."
Like so?

Graveyard your thread if you can't except negative comments. One thing I learned in alot of forums is that there is always negative comments in a thread.

You can make stuff like this happen.