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The Cobalt Knight Challenge

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Sat, 06/14/2014 - 17:28
Goldtrimmer's picture
Goldtrimmer

Im working on a challenge, where i'm only allowed to use proto gear AND i cant craft anything but the cobalt armor set and spiral order weapon set.

Advantages:

Good normal/piercing defence with good shield health
One of the strongest swords/bombs in game
Useful gun
Easy to craft, and cheap

Disadvantages:

No elemental/shadow resistance
No status resistance
Normal damage only

Restrictions:

No crafting other than Spiral Order weapons and Cobalt Armor set

Extra:

Allowed to craft the Cold Iron Vanquisher for Vanaduke

At the end of challenge:

Free to craft as much as i like
Free to do whatever
Free to farm whatever

Here we go.

8:27 PM, EST
6/14/2014

Cripplex has been created, and has gotten to rank 2-2 doing only elite difficulties.

Currently at a crown count of 1,099.
No cobalt items yet, still using proto.
Doing mission 2 of 2-2.
Good start so far, no sparks used

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 17:50
#1
Mystrian's picture
Mystrian

Couldn't you just equip proto/cobalt? Why make a new character? Also, are you giong to do a live on twitch/youtube?

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 17:51
#2
Goldtrimmer's picture
Goldtrimmer
....

I'll think about twitch.

I have a 8-2 character, yes. But he has nothing for orbs and nothing for crowns or sparks. So its completely useless trying to do it with him.

Besides, it's fun making a new character. You can make an instant 100 Energy because of the amount of crowns you'll have just from buying nothing.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 18:01
#3
Rothni-Halias
I just had a sort of

I just had a sort of revelation when thinking about the mission orb bonuses. While you can't trade the orbs themselves, couldn't you trade the unequipped armor? I don't know if this is viable but I could be onto something.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 18:18
#4
Goldtrimmer's picture
Goldtrimmer
....

Any items claimed by missions are forever bound unless you unbind them.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 18:45
#5
Bopp's picture
Bopp
I don't get it

Im working on a challenge, where i'm only allowed to use proto gear AND i cant craft anything but the cobalt armor set and spiral order weapon set...No crafting other than Spiral Order weapons and Cobalt Armor set...Allowed to craft the Cold Iron Vanquisher for Vanaduke

Please explain the rules better. You're allowed to use only Proto gear? Then why bother to craft Cobalt? Just to get past the Hall of Heroes? And why craft CIV? Are you saying that you're allowed to use any Cobalt/Calibur-derived equipment?

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 19:43
#6
Goldtrimmer's picture
Goldtrimmer
OH dear lord

Being a pre-teen at 8:00 PM after taking a shower makes me tired.
Sorry.

I'm allowed to use proto AND cobalt gear, however I should most likely go cobalt during after hall of heroes. I am allowed to use Spiral Order weapons and the Cold Iron Vanquisher. I normally wouldn't use one all the time, but I'll need it for vanaduke runs. Since vanaduke is considered undead, it'll do some good damage.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 20:05
#7
Bopp's picture
Bopp
undead bonus doesn't apply to vanaduke?

Ah, now I understand the rules. Thanks.

CIV should work well against all of the undead in FSC. But Vanaduke is rather a special case. His resistances are not exactly like an undead monster's. Undead bonuses don't apply to him, do they? If they do, I'd love to be corrected.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 22:39
#8
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Sir-Henry-Cooldown
Vanaduke is, in fact,

Vanaduke is, in fact, considered a Fiend. He's just SpEcIaL. Because he takes no Fiend DMG UP. Yeah I don't get it ether.
http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Vanaduke

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 22:42
#9
Dibsville's picture
Dibsville

And why can't you use Big Angry Bomb?

Sun, 06/15/2014 - 02:42
#10
Drischa's picture
Drischa

To be honest I think that the best item in the entire 'cobalt' set is the blast bomb line. It's so safe to use once you get the hang if it :o

Who needs ctr anyway?

I can't see why you'd want to craft a CIV other than looks. At higher levels of damage boost (You won't have these anyway if you're running cobalt only though, apart from sprite maybe) then levaithan blade does more damage against undead than CIV anyway.

But seriously though, get nitronome to murder everything in groups and valiance to hit switches/finish off single targets. You'll be unstoppable.

Sun, 06/15/2014 - 08:08
#11
Avenger-Of-Troy's picture
Avenger-Of-Troy
What about...

this, or this?

They have shadow defense...

Sun, 06/15/2014 - 06:23
#12
Mystrian's picture
Mystrian

Future challenge ideas:

  • one weapon only run
  • no items run (can be picked up though)
  • no taking damage
  • shieldless run
  • negative bonus/UV (decreased attack speed, decreased movement speed, decreased charge time)
  • limited only to starting gear (no crafting anything)

edit: Are other ideas for challenges welcome here?

Sun, 06/15/2014 - 03:59
#13
Goldtrimmer's picture
Goldtrimmer
@Dibzville

Ever since I heard of the nitronome, I liked no other normal damage bomb since.
Also, the charge time for the BAB is pretty long.

@Avenger of Troy

Do you seriously think I can change Mighty Cobalt into Almirian Crusader armor? You need to beat Dakfire Vanaduke, for cryin' out loud!
I might go for it, though. :P

Sun, 06/15/2014 - 05:03
#14
Bopp's picture
Bopp
Sir-Henry-Cooldown

Vanaduke's tool tip used to say that he was a fiend, but I think that that's been changed. I think that the wiki is out of date and wrong.

In any event, what's important is that no family-specific damage bonus (undead, fiend, etc.) applied to Vanaduke. So CIV is not great against him.

Sun, 06/15/2014 - 06:20
#15
Avenger-Of-Troy's picture
Avenger-Of-Troy
Bopp, are you sure?

Because I'd be willing to test that out, if someone had a level 10, UV-less Gran Faust.

Sun, 06/15/2014 - 07:50
#16
Bopp's picture
Bopp
sure about what?

Because I'd be willing to test that out, if someone had a level 10, UV-less Gran Faust.

Sure about what? That family-specific bonuses don't apply to Vanaduke? That's what I remember, and it's corroborated by the Vanduke wiki page. So I'm pretty confident, but not 100% certain. I don't see what Gran Faust has to do with it.

Sun, 06/15/2014 - 08:07
#17
Avenger-Of-Troy's picture
Avenger-Of-Troy
Yah, why wouldn't a bonus apply?

And the wiki could be wrong.

The gran faust thing was because I have a fiend UV on my gran faust. XD

Sun, 06/15/2014 - 08:43
#18
Bopp's picture
Bopp
special case

The wiki could be wrong or right. But my recollection, from reading threads like this, playing the game, and watching the wiki change over time, is that Vanaduke is a special case. Although the design of FSC suggests that he's undead, and his tooltip used to suggest that he was a fiend, he doesn't really belong to any monster family.

Sun, 06/15/2014 - 23:13
#19
Portrayt's picture
Portrayt
Oh no..

Being a pre-teen at 8:00 PM after taking a shower makes me tired.
Sorry.

Don't ever tell anyone on the forums your age. They will find you. And call you... "newb". O_O

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 09:57
#20
Goldtrimmer's picture
Goldtrimmer
My bad @ portrayt.

Onwards to the game.

12:56 PM
6/16/2014

All sparks lost in elite snarbolax run.
Dear lord, levels hate me.
Level 3 on Calibur, Blast Bomb, Cobalt Set, and Defender.
6,803 crown count.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 11:45
#21
Dragon-Mute's picture
Dragon-Mute
equipment

would we be allowed to make stuff like the heater shield, irontechs, BAB, etc. or not? (because if CIV is allowed why wouldnt you allow the other stuff too)

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 11:54
#22
Goldtrimmer's picture
Goldtrimmer
Just a little tweak...

Any item in the Cobalt Armor, Blast Bomb, Calibur, Defender, and Blaster line, is available to craft.
Just to make it better.. :)

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 11:57
#23
Addy's picture
Addy
I was thinking of going this

I was thinking of going this route whenever I did Skeptic-Raven's Vanguard challenge, so this is pretty convenient. Now I just gotta sit down and actually make my alt.

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