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Gunner update, still on its way?

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Mon, 06/23/2014 - 15:51
Crossarrow

Hello, like a year ago SK announced the gunner update, so ive been patient and waited.
But now its taking really long so now im thinking, is it still gonna come?

Many thanks already

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 16:03
#1
Lagretta's picture
Lagretta
Yep, someday

Yep, someday

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 18:07
#2
Ragga-Prince's picture
Ragga-Prince
Mhmm

What they dont want us to know is that the gunner update has already happened...Rember when they fixed the Chilling Duelist o.O

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 18:57
#3
Fehzor's picture
Fehzor

Nope. They canceled it.

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 19:08
#4
Ragga-Prince's picture
Ragga-Prince
;-(

Umm..I'm almost scared that you aren't joking

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 19:13
#5
Bamzalot's picture
Bamzalot
Canceled

It is definitely, absolutely, 110% guarantee canceled. So let down your hype now before everyone makes death threads!

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 19:42
#6
Ragga-Prince's picture
Ragga-Prince
Wow...

Wow.................since when...........and how do you know?

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 20:14
#7
Bamzalot's picture
Bamzalot
/me was just kidding!

It's still on its way. Just taking a long time to get here. We have had the testing server opened twice for the new features. But it has been quite a while since that happened. I'm expecting them to either open the testing servers one more time before they release it, or they will just give us a buggy flop.

Eiher way, it will still take a while before it gets here. I'm thinking at least until the end of Summer.

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 20:58
#8
Avihr's picture
Avihr
End of Summer?

Noooonononono.

what are you talking about Bamzalot? They deeeefinitely cancelled the gunner update, don' chu zee eet? the signs are everywhere.

The Gremlins were Jelly because the new guns were too good and Wolverful, so they found a way to sabotage their development and Devilited all the designs, OOO found out too late and then decided to put all the gremlins who destroyed the update into the eternal sLumber... and thats how the apocrean plateau got expanded, yknow, they had to do something with all the corpses.

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 22:06
#9
Ragga-Prince's picture
Ragga-Prince
Wait what?

"Sabotage their development and Devilited all the designs". So what did that mean...

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 22:13
#10
Fehzor's picture
Fehzor

Nope, Eurydice confirmed that the gunner update was canceled a while back.

We originally estimated that this would be out to you in November, and then we updated our estimate to January (this month). Unfortunately, it is [entirely canceled]. We're really sorry about this.

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 22:31
#11
Bamzalot's picture
Bamzalot
Oh yes, forgot about that.

The Gunner Update is totally done for. Not like there were really that many Gunners out there anyways. Or Bombers or Guardians or Defenders.

I propose the Blade Master Update. An update all about buffing Brandishes, lowering the Winmillion to 3 star, giving all monsters weakness to the new 'Acheron' damage, and sending it out to the public in 5 minutes flat along side the brand new 'Rayge Promo.'

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 23:14
#12
Dibsville's picture
Dibsville
How ironic would it be if...

It's going to be released in November.

"The Gunner Update is currently targeting a November release window"
~Nick, original gunner update announcement

They never originally specified a year now did they.

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 03:37
#13
Skold-The-Drac's picture
Skold-The-Drac
Internet -----> dibsville

You win the internet. Go home you awesome person.

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 04:17
#14
Mystrian's picture
Mystrian

What Fehzor is most likely trying to say is "stop talking about it". Maybe once a year it would be alright to see threads that rant about this but not weekly (or daily). Or ya know,NEVER TALK OF IT AGAIN.

Note: Fehzors post was of this, just reworded no worries!

And yes, they did not specify the year.

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 04:30
#15
Fehzor's picture
Fehzor

Nope. Definitely canceled.

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 04:51
#16
Zaffy-Laffy's picture
Zaffy-Laffy

People are crying because they lose their bets from that contest.

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 09:30
#17
Fangel's picture
Fangel
Probably after this event

I mean, this event gives out loads of radiants, and everyone wants to farm it for the aura.

Or maybe that's just my wishful thinking. I had a similar thought process when the radiant drought first started.

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 10:34
#18
Pipipipipi's picture
Pipipipipi
Move over, there's bubble-wrap to be popped!

Whats the gunner update?

Oh, that thing that doesn't exist? Yeah, still no clue what it is

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 08:06
#19
Aphrodite's picture
Aphrodite
Community Manager
Gunner Update

Please don't give out misinformation. You can see the announcement about the gunner update delay here: http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/96264

The gunner update is still in development and hasn't been canceled.

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 08:29
#20
Pipipipipi's picture
Pipipipipi
Move over, there's bubble-wrap to be popped!

I'm curious what is taking the update so long though. You have already released the preview server a long time ago, the only thing I could think of that you could be working on is balance which you know not of, 50 more armors, or more guns

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 08:40
#21
Addy's picture
Addy
I have a sneaking suspicion

I have a sneaking suspicion there might be more to the Gunner Update than guns and armor, but it's hard to say without any real evidence, haha. I'm pretty excited, though.

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 11:45
#22
Hyper-Galactic's picture
Hyper-Galactic
Addy

We all know you're an alt of a game master. Stop giving out blatant "hints" about the other stuff players leaked already. We get it that OOO is obviously taking their time to bundle a bunch of content to "rerelease" sk most likely to bring back players. Let's be honest, a gun tweak won't do it, a rerelease will.

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 11:45
#23
Skyguarder's picture
Skyguarder

"We all know you're an alt of a game master."

We do?

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 11:52
#24
Hyper-Galactic's picture
Hyper-Galactic

I mean addy tries to start new conversations other than the usual rage fest on the forums, and kept backing up OOO's promo after promo logic. To the point it'd seem weird for a random person to do. Follow enough people on the forums and you can see the blatant astroturfing that goes on. Anyhow, Addy's "hint" is just OOO's way of telling us there's other content too and that's the reason why it's been held up. Something an employee on the pr side would do and has been leaked a zillion times by others

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 11:59
#25
Avihr's picture
Avihr
Insane.

I honestly don't think that they would do anything more than what they told us they would, wich is just a plain simple gunner update... why would they try to NOT advertise something like that and cover it up as a simple gunner update? whats the logic on that?

And addy being a GM's alt? lolz, You've been reading too much conspiracy theories my friend.

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 12:03
#26
Addy's picture
Addy
Wait people actually think

Wait people actually think I'm a GM in disguise? Omg, that's adorable. ;w; (I have asked about applying to the team but they weren't accepting applications at the time...)

And no it's just my gut feeling. There was some extra little stuff on the testing server and Nick had previously talked about all sorts of other plans, it just makes sense to me that there'd be a little extra with our long-awaited update. I'm not BANKING on it but I just have a feeling.

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 12:05
#27
Hyper-Galactic's picture
Hyper-Galactic

I just don't buy Addy's logic a thread a few weeks back defending OOO's promo logic. It sounds like astroturfing support for it. Addy was doing it inside EoS people's threads who were raging against the nonstop promo train. I can guarantee readers here that OOO has alternative conversations started by GM alts to avoid the cesspool that is "OOO y u no" that happens often now.

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 12:06
#28
Asdfasdfasdfs's picture
Asdfasdfasdfs
^ Don't listen to her lies

I can confirm addy is a Spiral Knights GM*

*game maniac

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 12:12
#29
Hyper-Galactic's picture
Hyper-Galactic
I just don't believe anyone

I just don't believe anyone is that [no personal attacks please] about the promos being lame that'd they'd defend and agree to buy each and every one, after people document the waste of money that is the boxes.

It's not a conspiracy theory to have employee alts starting up conversations and hinting about stuff. It's a business strategy major MMOs employ all the time. PR means a lot to these companies.

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 12:13
#30
Addy's picture
Addy
Also Hyper-Galactic - I

Also Hyper-Galactic - I suppose denying it would just look suspicious, so I'll just say that game design and logic has been an interest of mine since childhood. I've played a ton of online games, watched some die, some thrive, watched game economies go crazy or stabilize, etc. So I feel like I have a bit of insight into it more than most players here? (I mean, being almost 26, I have literally been playing video games longer than some people reading this have been ALIVE.)

I'm also a bit of a "devil's advocate" - I try to see the other side of things, and honestly, when I try to look at the decisions OOO makes from their perspective, a lot of it makes good sense. At least the conclusions that I come to, anyway (which I am almost always voicing, haha). Empathy's always been a big deal to me too so I also try to understand what fuels those decisions. And considering how negative so many threads here are, playing the devil's advocate means I get to fight on the side of a crew I admire.

And I have nothing against throwing $20 at a game that I support and love. It's not that weird, is it? There's several communities that I've been in where that sort of thing is pretty normal. Maybe I'm just generous. If it helps, I didn't buy any Solstice Boxes. ;) (I'm living at home with currently no bills, so all income is kind of "fun income," and after playing completely free for a while, I wanna help out where I can.)

That said - Which GM would I be!? I'm super curious now. ;w;

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 12:24
#31
Autofire's picture
Autofire
You are experiencing a PICNIC ERROR!

Is it wrong that I'm laughing at the fact that Hyper is convinced that Addy is an alt?

@Aphrodite

Daw, can't we be a little sarcastic?

Wait, this is the internet.

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 12:26
#32
Blazzberry's picture
Blazzberry
SCP-96

Ok now you guys are just being weird.

Really, does anyone actually think people just go on the internet and tell lies? Thats just unheard of.

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 12:29
#33
Addy's picture
Addy
I don't think it's wrong,

I don't think it's wrong, that honestly made my day.

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 13:06
#34
Aphrodite's picture
Aphrodite
Community Manager

@Autofire Sarcasm on a forum is sometimes too subtle for readers to understand. In this case, I wanted to clarify and be sure everyone would see the correct information and not panic.

@Hyper-Galactic OOO employees do not use alt accounts to try to influence the mood of the forums. Sock puppeting is against the forum rules, and something that we do not consider acceptable for our team.

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 13:09
#35
Klipik-Forum's picture
Klipik-Forum

The obvious addition beyond guns and armors would be the Arcade Redux Part II that gets announced a few days before the actual patch, much like the Sprites update last year which included the Forge/Mist update that got announced about 2 days before the patch went live. Another possibility is balance updates... and of course, they could be stalling for time and milking the **** out of as many promos as they can first.

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 13:16
#36
Avihr's picture
Avihr
Box

I have literally been playing video games longer than some people reading this have been ALIVE

Stahp right there!, just let us, the little forum babies, go drink our hot chocolate milk while we can think of more arguments of why addy is a gm and make another thread about how OOO is an evil wallet hunter and we wish their promos go away.

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 13:13
#37
Avihr's picture
Avihr
Box

Doublepostmuch.

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 13:16
#38
Crashburnboom's picture
Crashburnboom
The learning bomber is happy :)

In my opinion, I'm GLAD that the gunner update is being delayed!
Why you ask? I'm training to become a master bomber and the gunner update is gonna be EXTREMELY.... annoying (especially for me in LD).
The only change to LD I predict is a bunch of OP gunner strikers stunlocking and killing me from 6-10 spaces away...
Then again maybe that means I'll get more gunner support, but I highly doubt it.

Here's a more poetic form to my words:

For too long bombs have been suppressed by the dominance of swords and guns.
Too many times have my colleagues been killed due to them.
Too many times have I grinded my head in frustration the meager abilities of bomb.
Too many times have I prayed to the Three Rings
My prayer for the salvation of those wielding bombs
My one hope...
My one wish in this great game of potential
To see my one wish become reality
To see the rise of bombers with my own eyes!
To see a time where bombs become a truly respected force.
No more tyranny by strikers armed with blade and gun
No more frustration of favoring a weapon overshadowed by others
No more attempts of justice to the explosive
If only it would happen...
The Bomber Update OOO! make it happen! (please?)

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 16:43
#39
Neinhart's picture
Neinhart
@Thread

"Its taking really long so now im thinking, is it still gonna come?"

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 17:43
#40
Addy's picture
Addy
Aviri - I didn't say all,

Aviri - I didn't say all, just some. ;3 I know there's plenty of people closer to my age who plays, I'm not even the oldest in my guild. Just putting stuff into perspective for people who don't know me as well, I suppose.

Honestly this GM alt business has made my day, perhaps my week. ;w; Maybe it's a sign I should seriously get into game development.

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 18:29
#41
Fehzor's picture
Fehzor

Honestly I would be really disappointed if the gunner update was just some new guns and armors for guns. Like, it took them an entire year to....... make a handful of handguns that have been confirmed by other players (not me) to be reskins? That's what we've been waiting on? Naw. I want me some Herex and whatnot.

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 18:37
#42
Pipipipipi's picture
Pipipipipi
Move over, there's bubble-wrap to be popped!

While we are blaming Addy for being a GM alt, may I point out that secretly Fehzor is Nick's alt

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 18:59
#43
Addy's picture
Addy
Fehzor - That's part of why I

Fehzor - That's part of why I am pretty sure there's gonna be something more with the update!

Also all of the Herex and the Artifact stuff leads me to wonder. Though maybe that'd come slightly before or after the gunner update, who knows. I know the devs are busy with a lot on their plates.

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 20:28
#44
Terrifying-Pancake's picture
Terrifying-Pancake
Lol, just leave the OOO

Lol, just leave the OOO employees alone, and they'll get their stuff done. Im sure they are doing their best (Why wouldn't they? Theres money to be made!)

Meanwhile, can someone at OOO please find the spec of code labeled as "Auto-Target" and press the delete button? Ill send you a bowl of fettucine alfredo, and a valentine's day card.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 09:14
#45
Jungle-Sword's picture
Jungle-Sword
@crashburnboom

I agree totally. I'm REALLY GLAD that the gunner update is delayed. IF new polas come out, my bombing career would be half-destroyed and new armor and weps....not good either. If you ask me, OOO practically never buffed bombs, so bombing can still be like being an 'underdog' vs 3ppl spamming polaris/valiance/AP/sentenza. actually, youre mostly dead. With the update this will become worse as long as SOMETHING doesn't get changed with bombs. I was also thinking stopping SK after the gunner update because if I ahve to stop bombing, I don't see so much point in SK anymore so yeah :/
what I think should be NERFED with guns:
- pola range
- AP range (srsly its a fast gun, why such a big range?)
- obsidian carbine dmg (REALLY high for fast wep, and with poison REALLY extreme)
- not so sure about valiance dmg, could be a bit less if you ask me
- pola first stage dmg ( 2 high even though the bullet is REALLY small)

what I think should be BUFFED with bombs:
- movement speed BAB and irontech
- CTR with BAB and irontech
- range of BAB (bigger)
- I have a feeling this won't happen but with status bombs it should be med instead of low (ik this would suck)
- shard bomb buff again
- DR more dmg
- mad bomber suit should be changed/chaos nerfed

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 10:41
#46
Hyper-Galactic's picture
Hyper-Galactic
@Fettuccine-Alfredo

I don't know if you got the memo, but OOO has auto target turned on by default for all new players. You actually have to turn it off when playing on a new computer. I doubt this means OOO is willing to remove AT any time soon.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 13:17
#47
Crashburnboom's picture
Crashburnboom
@Jungle-Sword

Thanks! It's nice too see another bomb lover :)
Friend me: IGN: Crashburnboom

Though BAB/Irontech does not necessarily need MSI. For example, you could give it bigger range, a lot more CTR to compensate for MSD: You can quickly charge a bomb, drop it, move, and then charge+drop another bomb where you moved to.
However most bombs REALLY need MSI for improved placement and avoidance (see gunner update).
And for the love of the lord, I pray for a rocket-bomb that sends you flying.

My current list of things that needs to be buffed includes: Recons (mostly the footprints), Guardians, class balance, bombs, and NPC's. Most of which I have found various solutions to, but I'll talk about them another time, as well as some other ideas for Spiral Knights.

Sat, 06/28/2014 - 03:14
#48
Jamie-Laannister
I dont even care anymore, go

I dont even care anymore, go ahead cencel the update who cares

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