Spiral Knights - Bombing Equipment Assistance

Bombing Equipment Assistance

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Sun, 06/29/2014 - 19:56

Leidhe

Not sure if this should go in Arsenal or New Recruits, since I haven't touched this game in forever.

Anyway! I'm having a bit of an issue with what route I should go with to keep bombing into T3.
My only 4* armor is the Heavy Demo set, with a few 3* sets and lower.

But I do have a good set of bombs, including Master Blast, Irontech 4*, and Spike Shower. Including almost all the vapor bombs of varying levels at or lower than 4*.

My issue is if I should focus on weapons or armor, since my major source of income ingame is either dying repeatedly at the JK mission due to being bad (getting better and relearning, thank god for all these sparks), or playing the AH with orbs.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 22:57

Poopsie

I would say...

Get anything that help boost your bomb CTR to very high/max first (Volcanic Demo, Battle Sprite Perk, Elite Bomb Focus Module or Chaos, Chaos > Mad Bomber after update) then save up energy to purchase OCH expansion since one of the best bomb is dark retribution. Use spark in wise manner, it comes rarely, also a bit pain when you start running out and buy 20 energy per spark. See some youtube video Spiral Knight Bombing stuff? Also, if I were you, I rather practice solo until I died for the second time and go back, instead of using spark.

Once you play tier 3 often, alchemy orbs comes easier compared to radiant fire crystals (used for 5* gears). So consider to just leave 5* armor at level 1, and 5* weapon at level 5, when you have limited radiants. However, you can leave vapor type bomb at level 1. Use that 100% chance to heat level, anyhow.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 22:47

Meep-The-Bank

Meep is expert bomber =w=

The good thing about bombs when they are upgraded to 5* is that they have a much more larger area of effect so 5* bombs can be used for crowd control. As a bomber myself, I would say 'STICK WITH BOMBS'. Bombs don't need aim. They depend on prediction rather than aim (swords and guns) and so can be easier to use. But don't rely on bombs too much. Have a sword as well to deal with block, deal quick and light damage or to deal knockout swings.

An example of a useful bomb is the shivermist buster where it can help a Lord Vanaduke battle finish as soon as possible due to it's immediate freeze.

If you would like to read more on bombs and how they can be perfect for the right situation, http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Bombing_Guide .

If you need help with picking other weapons, here's the sword master guide: http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Swordmaster_Guide and here's the gunslingers guide: http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Gunslinger_Guide .

Which ever your decision is, make sure you practise and try mastering it. Arenas and graveyards are great levels to practise your weapons as they can help evaluate the crowd control of them and their effectiveness.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 10:10

Holy-Nightmare

A salt bomb could help on the

A salt bomb could help on the JK, though it is outclassed by the dark retribution it does have crazy amount of flinch rate, 5-4 star shock status and can hit minis which DR has trouble with.

Volcanic demo is the typical demo set while Chaos is used over mad bomber due to the universal boost.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 18:11

Leidhe

Updoot

It took about ten more sparks, but I finally got the 5* OCH weapons, so I'm well on my way.

I appreciate all the advice, truly. I'm already rocking the 3* freeze bomb pretty well, but I think I might go for the Volcanic Demo suit once I get the crowns for it. I did get the recipes for the starts to the Magic line armor, so there's that as well.

Should I get my bombs up to a consistent level first, or should I go for the armor? (Lockdown's going to be... Interesting, for the recipes.)

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 23:14

Skold-The-Drac

Bombs in general

Max out heating your irontech bomb and DO NOT craft it up. Iron bomb is preferable to destroyer 9/11 times due to already having full 5* radius and awersum kb.

Take up arms with volc demo next, don't worry about heating it much.

Vaporizers will be everyone's next team-preferable bomb. Equalling out the vapos might be considered wasteful when most people either want shivermist or voltaic tempest. With vapos, 5* is better than max heat 4* due to radius. This will not apply to venom veiler in my opinion due to poison's necessity for mender dropping. You can go 5* but I find quicker charge preferable.

Spike shower needs to move up to DBB once you have one vaporizer at a point you can handle enemies with. The reason I'm not telling you to prioritize it first is because you already have a great normal damage bomb that can handle some thick situations well already.

I'd look into nixing the shards until you get bored with the above set. As shards' mechanics and play style is not for the faint of heart I.e. Most pugs

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 09:29

Leidhe

Shields

Any reccommendations for what kind of Shield to use, or should I go with the Aegis, since it's free?

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 13:56

Poopsie

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Barbarous Thorn Shield has better stat than Aegis (about the same defense but with sword damage bonus).
When considering the shield, status effect resistance weigh more than damage type.
A good general shield.... Owlite Shield because so many monsters does normal + elemental + fire/shock. Volcanic plate shield is really good against strong monsters at FSC (trojan + vana). Also, I think omega shield is good general shield due to having more shield hp than others, additional status effect uv would add nicely.

Another example of matching the shield for themes...
Dragon Scale Shield -> C42 danger mission
Dread Skelly/Gorgomega -> Heart of Ice danger mission

I didn't mean to make you having all those shields. I myself only have BTS, CoA (rarely using this), and swiftstrike buckler.
So... just pick any 5* shield that you have most trouble with. Pick offensive shield (BTS/swiftstrike) otherwise, though they are no good for pure bomber.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 14:52

Drischa

"but aegis is an all round shield!!!1!!!1!"

Do NOT get aegis. It is the worst craftable 5* shield in the game, period. Sure the recipes are free, but when you consider that a single orb is worth more than the recipe it's really not that much of a discount.
It's claimed to be an all-round shield by the game, but a much better alternative is the Omega shell. It has 20% more health than other shields, instantly making it superior to aegis everywhere except completely unthemed jelly levels (not even the royal jelly palace, since the lumbers can inflict stun and elemental)

I'd personally recommend Grey Owlite, Volcanic Plate or Crest of Almire.

Grey owlite is one of the most useful defensive shields, due to the commonness of the combinations is resists (Zeddy once did a table that gave points to shields depending on how many resistances they had for commonly run/danger missions, owlite came out on top).

I find volcanic plate useful for FSC, as the fire and stun resist help greatly for vanaduke's mace and trojans. However I 'm usually using shivermist in the fight and tend to stand still and tank the mace rather than dodge it since I'm lazy.

Crest of almire is also very useful in FSC for zombies, as it has both fire and shadow defence.

There unfortunately aren't any shields that provide bombing bonuses, otherwise I'd probaly suggest those. (hint hint bombadier buckler pls three rings)

If you ever see him, ask Glacies. He's a shield guy.

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 19:17

Leidhe

SSB?

I'm not sure why people keep saying Swiftstrike is a good shield for bombers. All it does is increase attack speed, and unless there's a hidden benefit that I don't know about, bombs only do Charge Attacks. I'd assume ASI just speeds up the near instant action of pulling your bomb out of your... Bag.

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 20:49

#10

Poopsie

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Yep, only useful if you bring something else than bomb.

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 23:39

#11

Zeddy

I wouldn't bring it somewhere really dangerous, but for just general arcade runs and FSC I like to bring SSB to improve my Maeko-bombing.

Feels good, man.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 07:05

#12

Batabii

I guess if you really wanted to, you could get asi ultra on bombs by using swiftstrike + fallen set... but then you'd only have ctr very high.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 07:51

#13

Sir-Turtlebear

ASI Ultra is, unfortunately, not very noticable compared to ASI High, and most certainly not worth giving up the DMG High + MSI Medium you get from Kat Cowl + Merc demo.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 10:40

#14

Batabii

oh I know it's useless, but it's still possible.

by the way black kat cowl is almost impossible to get unless you like shelling out millions of crowns on a single helmet. IDK why so many people act like its the "standard" for bombers/msi

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 15:35

#15

Krakob

Well, BKC+Merc Demo is the optimal bomber set. If you get that, good CTR UVs, and a damage trinket, you can roll with double max bombs in addition to MSI VH. The BKC isn't worth "millions", it's worth about 20k Energy, which is equal to about 1.4 million Crowns. Definitely doable in due time, although it's not something you can really start with. As for CTR on the bombs, it's definitely affordable with the price lying around 100k CR at 2*.

So yeah, BKC is indeed almost impossible to get unless you pay some but it's in my opinion the most powerful helmet in the game and every player should aim to get one sooner or later.

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