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Mon, 07/21/2014 - 17:54
Holy-Nightmare's picture
Holy-Nightmare

There have been talk about what a "Pro" is but what does it mean to be a "Hero"?

Pros get themselves through their fights, if the others die what does it matter? You can dodge better, deal more damage, and have more/better items than anyone on the team......

Heroes pull the party through the fight even if it means at your loss, You are the guy that may take a few hits and fall but you don't ragequit because you'll never use a spark, you use your shield to tank damage for your allies instead of just rushing past for the half dozen boxes, you don't have any sparks because you give them all away....

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Mon, 07/21/2014 - 17:56
#1
Pandafishie's picture
Pandafishie

But aren't heroes professionals? :o

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 18:04
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Holy-Nightmare's picture
Holy-Nightmare
Its more of a Divergent

Its more of a Divergent evolution of the "good player" you can take the common "Imma B an MLG pro" path or "I am actually going to help people" route.

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 18:28
#3
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Blazzberry
SCP-96

You can't save everybody no matter how many labels you brand yourself with.

But since you have this title, shouldn't a person strive to be both of these things? Why is there diversity?

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 18:52
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Qwote's picture
Qwote

heroes regret.

professionals don't.

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 23:18
#5
Glowupball's picture
Glowupball
I guess I shall go deeper than in my other post.

Deciding to be a hero or survivor (at least I that's what I call the other choice) is difficult, but of course you can be both. It's just easier to be a survivor than bother to guard teammates. A Hero can guard themselves and the team, but expecting to guard everyone can prove to be impossible, but trying doesn't hurt anyone but yourself (aka using a few sparks to take the place of dying teammate aka being a nicey nice pants). Even pros are not godly figures who can perfectly keep anyone safe without even using an autorevive, let's be reasonable here.

Like I said before in the other topic, the spark usage is purely under the assumption that the player has played with skill and not just thrown their life away to get the extra damage boost. (That's not setting a good example for others and one shouldn't ever plan to spark, it just happens. Aim to improve and become better, but don't be too stressed if you do end up dying.)

I call Pros/Heroes the same thing because they can correctly make the call of when to use sparks, perhaps without taking things too seriously and still have a good old fun time (The entire point of the game must be achieved to be a pro). If a pro cannot guard a teammate well (not being able to babysit an absolute newbie who cannot really guard themselves at all on vanaduke elite or a danger mission is fine though imo) then I do not consider them a pro (look at the teamwork of actual gamer professionals!). A pro does what's best for the team, no? And this is a team oriented game, no?

Maybe I wanted to sound hopeful by saying heroes guard everyone, but I for one don't guard everyone if they need a good butt kicking by the enemies to learn that they should play more carefully and with a mix of damage and surviving. A survivor maybe has the potential to guard a teammate, but if they do not, well then they're just a survivor and not a hero. I'm sure we have all made the choice to either carry the person or let them die and learn a lesson. Of course maybe both are wrong and what they need is a step by step guide, and if they do not want to listen, then you have to convince them to listen. And that is way too much trouble for me and that's when I become a survivor!

It's a mix of skill, caring about your team, and having a fun time. This all just sounds cliche and expected though, no? If you can't have it all (and often in situations no one has enough of all 3 to manage) then I'd rather have a teammate who has fun and works well with me.

Btw, heroes easily go unnoticed and normally don't call themselves heroes, that's up to those they have saved. . . Also, they give up the chance to prove to maybe themselves or others (whom I doubt really care) that in that particular engagement, they could have not used their autorevive or spark and looked so sexy without dying.

If you can't brush off that regret or at least live with it and move on, then just focus on protecting yourself, there's nothing wrong with not being a hero after all, but at the same time nothing righteous either. (Unless you're like me and think it's better for people to learn things the hard way by dying, but I am not calling myself a hero for doing so, aha.)

I often do not follow my own advice because it's hard and sometimes I like to watch people die . . . huhuhuhuhu

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 23:20
#6
Fehzor's picture
Fehzor

Can we put one of each in a cage and let them fight it out?

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 23:47
#7
Midnight-Dj's picture
Midnight-Dj
:/

A pro puts kerosine and some cloth on a torch to lead a group of travellers through a dark cave. He will sometimes kill a bat or two to keep everyone nourished.

A hero lights himself on fire and use himself as a torch to guide those who are trapped in the drakness for too long, if needed, the hero will feed his flesh to the starving.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 00:20
#8
Glowupball's picture
Glowupball
omg midnight

That was genius, please save your powerful genes for future generations. If someone actually did that though in a game somewhere, I would salute them and shed a tear for their misguided heroism. /salute

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 01:00
#9
Fangel's picture
Fangel
Welp.

TIL I'm a hero.

Only exception is if someone's playstyle is detrimental to my ability to protect people. When you're out of a shield you're supposed to stand IN my angelic aura.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 08:23
#10
Crazee-Pi-Forum's picture
Crazee-Pi-Forum
Move over! There's bubble-wrap to be popped!

you don't have any sparks because you played Grinchlen Assault....

Fixed

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 08:26
#11
Seiran's picture
Seiran
One fist tortoman

But aren't heroes professionals? :o

Some of us are hobbyists.

Well, there is the Heroes Association but you need to take a test or something to join the ranks.

B|

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 12:18
#12
Autofire's picture
Autofire
You are experiencing a PICNIC ERROR!

Heroes can't do that, Midnight, because that's selfish. He/she couldn't suffer for the sake of more people later on.

Heroes takes more risk than pros, though, when it is a benefit to others. (See if that bridge is safe! *bridge-collapses-and-hero-dies*) Lighting yourself on fire isn't a risk of death; it's a guarantee of it.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 05:56
#13
Bleyken-Forums's picture
Bleyken-Forums

So a hero is someone that helps you to become a pro

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 14:56
#14
Me-Luv-Ulongtime
Hmm...i dunno

I've seen lots of "really good" players, but never a hero that strives to protect his team-mates of such. I think it depends on the mentality of what player type one considers them-self. Are you a/an "Offensive", "Defensive" or "Support" player type. I'd say majority of players are very defensive. Really good are offensive. While a support player is a mix of both that focuses on team management/safety. I'd say that support players (i'm not talking bombers, they are really dis-tractors) are the "heroes".

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 15:00
#15
Krakob's picture
Krakob

Pros do anything but Prismatic Bolted Vees.

Heroes do anything but Prismatic Bolted Vees.

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