Spiral Knights - Dumb Question

Dumb Question - Knight's Gender

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Tue, 07/22/2014 - 08:41

Aka-Rozu

Here's a dumb question that's probably pointless but I'm asking anyway - How do you tell your knight's gender?

Like there's no gender selection on the creation, however you can make them look like a boy or girl with the type of armor. Like how the one in my profile avatar looks female and looks like she has hair put up in pig tales. But if I change my armor I could make her look male instead of female.

Obviously the alien species that the knights are have no gender, but still. They can make themselves look feminine or masculine so they must have some preferences for themselves.

I just find it kinda funny, XD.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 09:42

Karituo

Simple but sexist

Spiral tailed helm or any other pony tailed helm and any raiment or dresses; accessories: ribbon, love aura, flowers
this makes people think you're a girl

every other armor/costumes make you a boy.

I personally wear raiment from the angelic set because I'm just holy that way :3

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 10:03

Drischa

Well, looks aren't everything. Bechamel is referred to as male in the mission text for one of the 'time to go shopping' missions. I'm also fairly sure that Desna is female, despite being about the same size as feron (I got this from her armour being having the '-fem' suffix in it's filename)

There was this discussion when the sarongs came out, and it has also been discussed many times before. I find it interesting that people worry about how to make their knight look a certain gender when it really shouldn't matter, we're all spiral knights and can look good however we want!
Knights are an extremely diverse 'race' after all. I mean, we can go from as tiny as Kora to someone as big as Arkus.

Trojan-height modifers pls

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 13:31

Pandafishie

Knights aren't fully alien, they're more like humanoids.

You forgot Sarongs too, those are obviously female attire. With a length that short, it's obviously geared toward females. I mean, generally speaking, girls tend to WANT to make themselves look all cutesy and more dressed up :PThis is coming from an actual girl (lol) and my main knight is also a girl who had many, many costumes. C: But regarding amour and stuff, I rather have my costumes over the armour since it looks far more appealing than more "manlier" gear. Also, sometimes the gear just doesn't look good together. :P

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 14:23

Drischa

To those interested, there's an page on the knight's 'species' on the wiki.

I want a serene sarong :<

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 19:45

Aka-Rozu

ahah, yeah I guess Gender

ahah, yeah I guess Gender doesn't matter at all. Also I have completely forgotten the few times they have used he and she pronouns in the mission text.
However I still think they do not have a gender, but it would be rude to call someone an it, y'know? Being male or female could be what the knights just prefer to be identified as.

It's pretty cool cause the player can make them be whoever they want them to be. Kinda like another character of a game series Sega has produced...

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 21:44

Pandafishie

Yes, I do agree, but the general population of video games are males, so people always just call each other by "he". If not, it's usually known (lol) and then corrected, then both parties are happy^^ Th e English language is hard to come by though with gender neutral pronouns... "They" or "it". "It" just sounds rude, and most people just generalize back to "they" being a male, like how I stated previously. But hey, who knows, it's pretty hard to tell over just reading text all the time.

It's just a game after all; we should just have fun with it :)

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 05:46

Holy-Nightmare

Life and Death

Mortality is something extremely evident in this game but how the knights came to be is a question that has not been answered. Regardless the answer (whether cloning, building, or some organic style of reproduction) someone could likely get offended.

Also keeping this a secret greatly lowers the chance of "unsavory" fanart.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 07:30

Pandafishie

"Unsavory"
All art is beautiful. Just because you find it odd doesn't mean it is in another's. Look at the Greeks and Romans, their statues look quite odd in the modern era, but they were considered amazing in their eyes. It's quite obvious of the certain artist in which you dislike, but an artist's mind is only their own. They decide what they want their image to look like after all, since they are creating the images.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 09:21

Drischa

I personally use 'they' and 'them' as gender neutral when it is needed.

How2notoffendpeoples:
"I heard he got CTR VH on his Combuster, good for him."
"I heard she got CTR VH on her Glacius, good for her."
"I heard they got CTR VH on their Voltedge, good for them."

(Used brandishes because they're even overpowered in sentences)

I've been wearing a serene culet & tailed helm (Occasionally even a sarong/kat hat) and called 'he' consistently. Videogame communities huh.

Wed, 07/30/2014 - 11:01

#10

Victorapples

to be real, i just called

to be real, i just called them "it" XD

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 11:46

#11

Gbot-Vtwo

knights Don't have genders! XD

they don't need any. its an MMO! there is no need for gender. thats another thing that makes SK special! :3

You can be whoever you want to be! :)

Sun, 08/31/2014 - 06:15

#12

Firemetal

@karituo

You are the sexist one. Anyone can be masculine or feminine depending on their names. The only thing in there that will define gender are the new splash trunks and sarongs!!!

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 13:17

#13

Gbot-Vtwo

Firemetal is right.

Whenever the gender for some reason people wear sarongs.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 15:06

#14

Ironclaw-Mender

Who needs gender in a game where you can be an androgynous-robot-slime-thing, mowing down waves of ghost cats?

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 18:13

#15

Gbot-Vtwo

@Mystigryx IKR? LOL

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 15:44

#16

Jeroen-Mathon

@Mystigryx You can read my

@Mystigryx You can read my mind.

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 21:51

#17

Fehzor

Does gender even exist!?!?

Mon, 09/29/2014 - 18:47

#18

Gbot-Vtwo

Not In the world of SK It doesn't!(I'm NOT counting the animals.)

Tue, 09/30/2014 - 02:46

#19

Negumiko

Armor and Gender

It is unknown if Knights have a gender but they likely don't. A Knights strength is determined by what armor we wear. Each armor piece we wear determines our strengths and weaknesses. Spiral Knights appear to just be energy like creatures with a few different energy colors. Gender could be a choice for each knight. There is armor that clearly looks like it is made for guys and we have armor that looks like it is made for girls and some armor that could work for both.

Each knight can choose what armor to wear. So if a Knight picks armor that looks like it is for guys that is how they will likely be identified. If a Knight picks armor that is for girls then that is how they will likely be identified. Either way the gender of a Knight does not really matter that much. Seems more likely each knight chooses their own gender though.

Tue, 09/30/2014 - 04:00

#20

Vohtarak-Forum

im vohtarak

well some npcs have gender, bechamel is called a he

but the gender is pretty much based on what you think

I just call people by the first 3 letters of their in game name

Wed, 10/01/2014 - 09:48

#21

Whimsicality

The amount of people here who assume Gender = Biological Sex is astounding.

Wed, 10/01/2014 - 11:17

#22

Sonosuke

I'm done being serious. Time to revel in insanity.

@Whim

Gonna be honest with you, I half-forgot the difference myself after reading this thread.

Wed, 10/01/2014 - 11:25

#23

Vohtarak-Forum

im vohtarak

well sorry if I accidentally did that

also maybe we're like the sontarans in doctor who, just clones

Wed, 10/01/2014 - 19:39

#24

Gbot-Vtwo

"The amount of people here who assume Gender = Biological *** is astounding." LOL

" Maybe we're like the sontarans in doctor who, just clones." That would be cool.

Wed, 10/01/2014 - 19:58

#25

Midnight-Dj

my 34 cents

I still believe that spiral knights must be a sexually dimorphic species, after all, I don't expect knights to reproduce via asexual reproduction or binary fission. And if you don't know what asexual reproduction and binary fission are, let's just say that is how earth worms, malaria parasite and most single celled organisms reproduce, seems really un befitting for a group of organisms that are as sentient as spiral knights.

Wed, 10/01/2014 - 21:20

#26

Gbot-Vtwo

Or IS IT?

It wasn't stated. It means we don't know. So don't say that It Is like that(Not that you're wrong but Is because nobody knows.). And seerusly. NO BABIES!!!!! Enough said.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 15:54

#27

Fehzor

Oh god I forgot that I posted that and it cracked me up!!! The reference ("Is time even real? Does anyone know") was just so keen and fitting.. oh I have a sad life and should jump off of an atrium. Word.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 17:59

#28

Gbot-Vtwo

@Fehzor

LOL don't jump off man.

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 12:06

#29

Holy-Nightmare

Which walk cycle do the

Which walk cycle do the knights have?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdfwmDnCsJg

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 13:01

#30

Gbot-Vtwo

@Holy neither. They might even be quicksilvers In robotic costumes!

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 05:11

#31

Keepscaite

For all we know, a Knight's

For all we know, a Knight's gender is interchangeable. Like armor.

So every time you change your equipment, you're also changing your.... equipment.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 07:10

#32

Gbot-Vtwo

LOOL

"You're also changing your.... equipment." *Gender?

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 20:30

#33

Mystrian

Do our avatars in-game have genetals?

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 07:12

#34

Gbot-Vtwo

Do our avatars in-game have ...........?

No.

They might be quick-silvers. There was a theory about that. Like how we can change our body's to a robot without a leg to, a normal knight. knights might not have any body whatsoever.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 04:05

#35

Keepscaite

It's possible that a knight's

It's possible that a knight's body pretty much consists of only the head, everything else is just a detachable add-on. How else would you be able to equip some of the disguises?

Mon, 12/29/2014 - 03:21

#36

Cen-Silver

I agree with Negumiko. I

I agree with Negumiko.

I think we're all just "energy", using the armors we want to fit the looks we wish for.

Mon, 12/29/2014 - 06:19

#37

Avenger-Of-Troy

Knights are not born.

They are made.

In factories.

Mon, 12/29/2014 - 07:04

#38

Vohtarak-Forum

im vohtarak, call me by that name

@the above two posters

Go to the knights wiki page, knights are organic beings
It takes 5 seconds, really

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 13:54

#39

Avenger-Of-Troy

@Vohtarak

That actually may not be true. It's a wiki, anyone can edit it.

Also, the materials a described for humans, not knights. It says some is ___. But they never say that in relation to knights. We have no idea what they feel, and therefore that wiki page is invalid.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 15:28

#40

Vohtarak-Forum

im vohtarak, call me by that name

If something was severely incorrect the admins would fix it
They've done grammar fixes, so its logical that they would correct an entire page if it was wrong by that much

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 16:00

#41

Avenger-Of-Troy

Nah

It's user created, so it's not severely wrong, not is it severe in any other way.

The admins probably don't care about it too much. But they might, so I dunno. But who says we're organic? They're no proof behind THAT. (No mat link)

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 18:34

#42

Traevelliath

@Avenger-Of-Troy

Ok... so if we follow your train of logic that, unless it specifies "knight," it doesn't apply to knights...

Well first of all, knights clearly eat, otherwise why do we have chefs that make caek every now and then (albeit with varying levels of success)? According to Rocky Cores, knights have teeth that can break. In the Royal Jelly Recon Module, Parma says she can smell smoke and it's implied she can hear the grinding of gears. At the entrance to the core, Parma mentions that when Grantz was grabbed by the swarm "he said it felt like both fire and ice".

So you can either say we are very complicated forms of machinery that heavily mimics organic life... Or we just assume that knights are organic due to a series of logical assumptions.

Now if we turn the question around, is there any evidence that states Knights are inorganic?

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