Forums › English Language Forums › General › General Discussion

Search

Is this game's F2P elements doing their job?

6 replies [Last post]
Tue, 08/12/2014 - 22:03
Autofire's picture
Autofire

Hi! I just watched this particular Extra Credits, and it made me start to think. Where does Spiral Knights stand here? Now, no, there is nothing for you to buy with real money that you cannot buy with Energy, with the exceptions of the Deluxe Starter Pack and family, but...those aren't too fantastic or too long lasting.

But, no, would you pay money into this game to get some new toy or something you really want? Not really to power on through the game with, but more, just to...have fun with what you get?

Personally, I think that it doesn't really help when only costumes are pumped into the community. Sure, it may look flashy, but, does it really expand what we do?

Some of these awesome events, those like the Trotodrone events, bring us new weapons. For example, the Busters. I got one of those guns, and I love it. It's something I really feel that I would actually drop real money in for just because it's so fun. It doesn't really give me a big boost, either. It's not the next Polaris, but it's really fun to use. The tricky thing is that others don't feel the same way; some think it's powerful and don't want to pay, others think it's useless, and others just want to point at it and call it P2W for no reason.

But, while that's my view, what do you think? Do you see something wrong? Are all the costumes fine? (Okay, no one agrees with me, right?) I know that the developer team isn't releasing much, but maybe it has to do with how the model of the game is, with the game not really getting enough money and it's being shut down?

Tue, 08/12/2014 - 23:05
#1
Fehzor's picture
Fehzor

Buying that kind of content feels like cheating, and sucks all of the depth out of the game-- a problem that Spiral Knights already suffers from.

If I'm set for life with my brandishes and I refuse to use my crafting materials to make new and exciting things as was intended, then I'm missing out on all of the depth the game has to offer. I can use brandish + antigua for most content, but if I tried shivermist buster + catalyzer, I might have more fun even if just for a run every twelve. The game certainly provides measures to counter this (random + bound rarities), but it still suffers due to the general cost of finding radiant fire crystals, random trap weapons (I'm looking at you, winmillion), general sameness between armors (and to a lesser extent weapons), and lack of necessity to craft anything but the best.

I think that Three Rings is 100% in the green with what they are trying to sell when it comes to costumes, and that they should really keep moving further in the direction that they've been going. As cliche as it is to say this, look at Team Fortress 2. They have the biggest rabbit hole of pointless cosmetics that I've ever seen, and I see a ton of people willing to dive down it. But the big take away message from it is that a level 69 strange festive collectors robo sandvich with 10,000 kills that costs 3 million USD does EXACTLY the same thing as the sandvich that the noob next to you just picked up for free. THAT. Is the optimal way to distribute your microtransactions.

----

I sincerely apologize to everyone for posting my opinions, which are inevitably wrong. Holding opinions is really a nasty habit.

Tue, 08/12/2014 - 23:14
#2
Xxpapaya's picture
Xxpapaya
The papaya thinks

Personally, I'm happy with the content that's being released, mainly because the Nitronome was all I ever asked for (and that's been here since the beginning of time). I agree with Fehzor's comments on the costumes and the relation (or anti-relation) to TF2's cosmetic selling.

I've never understood the point of buying things like energy with real money. You are basically using up your own hard earn cash on a game thats supposed to entertain you, SO THAT you can finish the game faster and thus, drain all the fun out of it?
I'm sorry, has something changed in the definition of fun in the past few years?

Truth be told, I'm happy with the costumes. YES some of them get a bit repetitive with the constant recolors and whatnot, but every now and then something amazing comes along. The thing that makes these events keep Spiral Knights in the "F2P" section is the fact that they don't do anything other than make you look more flashy.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 01:22
#3
Blazzberry's picture
Blazzberry
SCP-96

Last time a new equip was added in game, players had extremely high blood pressure because it was a 1% chance to get. Truth be told, the equip wasn't that good at all. But because of it, boxes and energy became seperate(which is quite awful for consumers, but awesome for OOO on their end causing your wallet to vomit more green stuff imo)

Tl:dr, it's extremely difficult adding a weapon that's not game breaking without upsetting the stomach known as the community, ergo, why we have so many costumes to play dress up. Btw, I have all four fists, and people need to realize even though they all act the same, each type calls for different tactics, with the lemon yellow colored fist being the most advanced to use. They're not bad weapons, but they don't outshine already optimal strategies.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 03:38
#4
Mtax-Forum's picture
Mtax-Forum

I think that OOO does it well, as it is now in terms of being fair with everyone. Paying player can get the same power and fun as free one. It's completly best option possible. Costumes for real money that are buyable with crowns from other players are OK and fair, as well DLC for energy is. Though yes, adding something like money bomb would be nice idea, but adding things that are changing gameplay is worst possible option - this means it is part of Pay to Win scheme.
After all I'm glad as it is in system: Paying player >sells> Other player.

PS - link to video does not work, Autofire.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 04:12
#5
Mystrian's picture
Mystrian

"players had extremely high blood pressure because it was a 1% chance to get"

Well, good thing is they didn't die or anything :)

Free 2 play=putting actual effort into what pay2win players can do.

Wed, 08/13/2014 - 10:03
#6
Autofire's picture
Autofire
You are experiencing a PICNIC ERROR!

Okay, I fixed the link. Thanks, Mtax!

Could you guys/gals watch that, then? I didn't realize that it didn't work. I always check, and for some reason I guess I didn't check it this time? Oh well...

EDIT: @Mysterian

That's particularly why I had the video. That's exactly not how it's supposed to work.

Powered by Drupal, an open source content management system