Ok so I'm pretty knew to spiral knights and this is my first time posting on the forums.
I'm currently trying to get all 4* gear and, while I have 4* armor and a 4* sword, I need to upgrade my helmet. I use a Chroma mask and I am wondering if I should upgrade it, and if so, what to? If I shouldn't upgrade it what are some good helmet lines that I should use. My only 4* gear is a blazebrand and a Ash tail coat.
Chroma Mask line
Thu, 08/14/2014 - 07:19
Thu, 08/14/2014 - 11:19
#2
You could stick with it. Salamander set isn't bad, and like Magnicth said, its great for FSC because you can use your chroma gear for a while and have resistance for the jelly kingdom, and then later on be set for FSC. Of course and also like Magnicth said, you can also just use wolver set and eventually vog set to the same, but more effective, effect.
Another option would be the mask of seerus and chaos cowl, which are basically what we've recommended to every single other person that's posted any of these questions in the last year or so. The mask of seerus grants you the highest elemental + normal defense combination of all of the normal (non-plate) armors, as well as gives you shock + fire resistance and insane gun stats. It would actually be a straight upgrade from salamander helm (except against slimes), even if you didn't have any handguns. If you do have handguns, like say... a blitz needle, by any chance, then it gives a pretty substantial amount of charge time reduction as well as a bit of attack speed increase.
And of course if you go with vog, then chaos would be amazing for those fire levels, provided you use charge attacks on swords/bombs+guns to great effect.
Thu, 08/14/2014 - 13:45
#3
A few more questions
Ok, so basically what you've said is that I should choose between getting a salamander mask, an ash tail cap (eventually upgrading to a vog cub cap), a miracle hood (eventually getting the chaos cowl), or the mask of seerus. One question before I go and ponder my decision. Is the mask of seerus only available to those who purchase operation crimson hammer, can I get it through the auction house, or can someone can invite me to operation crimson hammer and I can get it? Also, what do you think is better in the long run, the vog cub cap, or the volcanic salamander mask?
Thu, 08/14/2014 - 14:40
#4
The only other choice for
The only other choice for Chroma is the Arcane Salamander which has notably more defense than the Volcanic but is only obtainable after an extremely hard shadow lair, in all honesty the Volcanic should be fine for general gameplay as it provides a good defense and resists one of the biggest threats to players: Fire.
Vog cub is nice since it has a sword speed boost but the boosts provided by the Mask of Seerus are nice too, I can personally say that this mission while difficult to obtain is not impossible to get even, as a player who never paid $ to get it I still saved up enough CE to purchase it.
Thu, 08/14/2014 - 16:06
#5
The vog cub cap is better than the salamander set in the long run.
For mask of seerus, you'd have to buy the DLC. You *could* purchase it off of the auction house, but 5* gear doesn't go cheaply and it would be cheaper to just get Operation Crimson Hammer. A longer term goal, to be sure. It would go something like- chroma -> virulisk/salamander, then you would save up and buy Operation Crimson Hammer and make seerus instead of taking your chroma to 5*. The other thing is that you get warmaster rocket hammer and dark retribution from the mission. Warmaster rocket hammer is useful in the very late game for taking out deadnauts and really dealing damage overall, while dark retribution is probably the best damage bomb in the game.
Fri, 08/15/2014 - 08:32
#6
Salamander makes little sense
I might be late to the discussion, but my advice is not to upgrade your Salamander armor at all. Deadly Virulisk is good against slimes, both in offense and defense. But getting a slime-specific armor is not a good use of your resources at this point. The other two upgrades (Volcanic and Arcane) make no sense, because their offensive bonuses don't match up with their defensive types.
There is a reason why most players are running around with these armor lines: Wolver, Gunslinger, Demo, Chaos. In this game (or at least the later parts), even the toughest armor lets tons of damage through. To stay alive, you must dodge enemy attacks, rather than absorb them. Therefore advanced players favor armor with offensive bonuses, even if its defense isn't quite as good as the more defensive armor.
Fri, 08/15/2014 - 10:49
#7
Thanks for the advice
Thanks for the advice Bopp. Sadly, I have already used my elite orbs to craft a salamander mask. If I had seen what you said earlier I probably would've opted for the miracle hood, the four-star prequel to the chaos cowl. I may still try to get the miracle hood and just use the salamander mask as a costume.
Sat, 08/16/2014 - 06:22
#8
Its really not as big of a deal as you think it is, just use your salamander mask in the mean time while crafting the miracle hood. Miracle hood is going to be a pretty mediocre item (worse than salamander, even) until you get it to chaos anyway. Salamander mask will allow you to at least be partake in FSC a little bit and fight slimes a bit as well. Later on, you might even want to go for arcane salamander set, one of the trophy sets from uFSC. You *can* find use for it in actual play as well occasionally, but arcane salamander is mostly just to look cool which is basically all you'll have left at some point.
Mon, 08/18/2014 - 07:52
#9
In all honesty one of the
In all honesty one of the largest threats to those running FSC are those oilers, which resist the two best damage types for the FSC, that little slime boost should help your damage output against them. So long as you run FSC with the Salamander Mask you should spearhead the offence against those oilers. That may be the only use for it in the FSC but it can be helpful in a few places.
Mon, 08/18/2014 - 18:55
#10
disagree
I disagree that oilers are one of the major threats in FSC. There are what...two on the first level, three on the second level, and none after that? And none of them is in a high-pressure situation (a tight room with difficult monsters).
Tue, 08/19/2014 - 08:53
#11
Considering no one brings
Considering no one brings pierce resist armors to FSC and oilers are one of the two kinds there they can deal a larger punch of damage than some monsters there (considering everyone resists Elemental/shadow). Still I did say that this is practically the only use there. For all intents and purposes it is better to have a Vog cub cap than a Salamander mask. Short of the Valkyrie set most "specialist" sets are never used.
If you choose to upgrade your chroma mask, you have 2 options:
1.The salamander mask
and
2. The Virulisk mask.
The Salamander mask protects from the fire status, which will likely be more useful in the long run (by in the long run, I mean in FSC, the SK grinding central.)
The Virulisk mask protects against poison, which, while helpful in some situations, isn't quite that useful, since poison isn't all that harmful, and is less frequently found than fire.
However, what most people would recommend is to get an ash tail helm, which, combined with the ash tail coat, would give you a better sword buff. As much as I hate to admit it (I'm not too fond of the wolver lines in general), getting a full ash tail set would probably be the best way to go. But if you do want to upgrade the chroma mask, going the salamander mask route would definitely be the better decision, over the virulisk mask I mean.