Spiral Knights - Experience trying to be nice to new players

Experience trying to be nice to new players

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Sat, 08/16/2014 - 01:56

Xaphak

Well, today, I figured I would do an arcade run, and happened to find a frostbreaker shield in a treasure box. Me being well equipped with 5* gear, had no use for it. So then I decided instead of selling it for almost nothing, I'd give it away!

So then I tried. For nearly an hour, trying to find someone new to the game to give the gift of a free shield to, asking nothing in return. That's when it got CRAZY. I spent so long trying to find a single newbie person to give it to. Needless to say, I got ignored almost completely.

I'm not sure if they didn't know how to respond, or they were alt accounts or something, but NOBODY responded to me. I was literally getting frustrated trying to GIVE SOMETHING AWAY.

Finally, however, after pain and agony and pledging to never be nice again, someone finally responded, and I gave him the shield. It felt nice to give something to a new player, and I know the shield isn't THAT good, but seriously. Maybe it's the gremlin costume I have on. People don't trust it. Oh well, at least I did something nice today.

Do you guys have any experiences where you were trying to be nice or helpful, but it just wouldn't work out?

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 02:31

Xtweeterx

Oh all the time on the forums, but seeing how biased and toxic the place is, it's practically no use.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 07:11

Arcknightdelta

@ Xtweeterx

But that's no excuse to stop being nice is it :)

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 08:24

Blazzberry

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I got one 99% of you have have experienced.

You're doing a run on a very difficult level.
There's an open spot in the party(Some of you know where this is going already)
Your lower gear newbie friend joins.
You feel second hand embarrassment as the newbie keeps dying in front of others in the party.
Your newbie friend begs you to revive them. Being the nice person you are, you do it at least once.
They die again and the cycle repeats.
After the run, your newbie friend somehow vanishes from your friends list.

Or the alternative take
You're doing a sl.
Your newbie friend wants you to join their party.
You try to explain why that's a big fat no-no.
Your newbie friend gets upset you cannot "save" their run that has gone downhill.
You both part ways. At least one of you does.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 08:28

Dinosaurvista

Yes.

Most likely the trust factor was a huge reason why people didn't respond to you. In a game like this where equipment is so valuable i'm sure quite a few people who saw you thought "Hes just gonna show off how rich he is, not give me anything and run away! I will just keep out of this." Also, i think many newbies want to make their gear themselves, and on top of that, many newbies probably don't even know what's going on since they are so new.

I really wouldn't feel offended. If i was in your situation i would've waited till a busier time; come to the newbs instead of waiting for them to come to me; or just sell the shield to a vendor for $$$.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 08:40

Lady-Of-War

"Your lower gear newbie friend joins."

I actually got the achievement for defeating Lord Vanaduke when my best gear was only three star. My guildmates were actually quite friendly and let me come along. Of course I began building skills really easily, including shield cancelling and to be very, very cautious around new stuff you haven't seen before.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 09:01

Mystrian

Blazzberry, your "alternative" is true. I have bad memory anyway and just help randoms just for that small extra cr :) (excluding rom twins)

I actually take noobs to tier 2 or even 3 because they want me to, they rev themselves for god knows why then leave (again i don't know why)

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 09:55

Bucking

Well happen to me like few days ago, a newbie in my guild ask us in guild chat, if any of us have the ancient shell, only im the one have shell, enough to craft 1 torto to 5-star.

So i asked him whats his offer, he trade with me and show what he will offer, the offer is 5 glyph, and 100 CE.

I refused and say its not even enough to pay the crafting fee, then tell him the usual price.

I advised him to grind more CR, but he insist with his offer, even went as far as loan him first, even thou i barely know him, and joined guild like few days ago.

I started to ignore his chat, keep on msg-ing "sir, why are you ignore me?" "sir, are you ignoring me?"

Then he start to cuss at me, dont mess with him, blablabla

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 10:41

Pandafishie

it's not about asking people if they want free things...
you have to offer a mandatory donation.

ex. 1
mail it. u have to sacrifice 100cr nbd.

ex. 2
bb plz i got one less, one less problem... if you take this from meh kk? k. prob solved

killed with kindness

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 13:31

Xaphak

I literally lel

Glad to see I'm not the only one with these experiences. Fun stuff.

Also, made me laugh right when I woke up.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 15:56

#10

Silverdeoxys

@Bucking

You do realize you can't trade Ancient Shells, right?

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 17:01

#11

Jabbzz

@Blazzberry's post

Ohh how I have ran into these problems many times. Idk, its like its hard to explain certain situations to new players that expect you to be their bailout solution when things go south. Maybe that's why I hesitate friending new players, it seems like you just get forced into that savior role and if you don't beckon to their call, that new friend suddenly becomes not so friendly.

But I still find new players that are willing to learn and actually understand that I can't save them everytime they run into a bump in the road, which is really nice to see :)

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 19:46

#12

Sonosuke

@Blazzberry

I have the opposite happen to me with the alternative take. One of my friends usually invites people from his friends list to an FSC run. Since I'm one of the regularly online friends, he invites me as well. The problem is: I'm still Defender Elite. I choose not to join so I won't seem useless in an FSC run with only 4*, and because I want to be sure that I'm ready to take on such a hell hole. I'm not trying to offend him or anything, I just don't want to take up needed space.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 20:18

#13

Xxpapaya

The papaya giggles

Most of the time, when new players talk about stuff (mostly materials) they don't have, I just end up throwing them at them :P. Also, I like to help them out with levels rather than items, because you know, more levels completed=more items available!

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 00:55

#14

Bucking

@Silverdeoxys

Forgot to mention that, he thought its tradable, and all of us in guild keep say its not.

After much time explain, he finally believe its true then ask me to craft the shield for him.

And thats how the story goes on

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 01:15

#15

Bucking

oh another story, it happen back around months ago.

I came back SK after 2 years of absent, and my gear is 2-star, pretty much like any of those poor newbie.

Made some new friends while arcade, then this new friend of mine have another newbie friend, probably around 1.5-Star gear

He wanted to help him by buying gear from token trader, but he got no enough token, so he asked me for help.

He knew i got plenty of token, i agree to help his newbie friend only if he can pay the unbind fee, being a poor fellow i cant afford to pay the unbind fee.

This is where the madness start, he said those weapon are tradable, i said it isn't, and he keep on insist it is.

He start to accuse me bullshitting him and start to cuss me, i even ask those passerby if its tradable, all said no.

He still dont believe me, i even ask him search it in SK wiki, and he said lazy and still believe its tradable.

Then he turn around and talk to his newbie friend, "dont worry i will help you, dont believe that jerk" something along that word

Afterward i just remove him from my friend list, shame i forgot his name, wish i can find him back.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 06:08

#16

Sonosuke

(~O ,O)~ #Sonosuks

Back when I first started playing, I was invited into my first guild. I befriended some of the more experienced guild mates, and I was having fun. A few weeks later though, I noticed one of them wasn't part of the guild anymore. When he came online (not even an hour later) and I asked him, he said he didn't know why and that he probably did something that the GM didn't like.

So there we were, sitting in the Snipe Garden. A bunch of other players; some his friends, some my friends, and the rest just random people; were also sitting with us. I decided, like the nice guy I was (back then anyways (and because he asked me to)), to ask the GM himself why my friend was kicked. He was being cryptic as hell, saying things like "Oh he knows what he did," when my friend was denying the fact that he didn't. Whether he did or didn't is another discussion.

Eventually, it escalated to the point that I, as well, was kicked from the guild. Because I was worried about my friend, who was kicked for no discernable reason, I was kicked as well. I have removed both that guild and that GM from my memories, and I won't post any names, of my friend, witnesses, or any bystanders that practically watched since the couldn't do anything to stop it.

So, my story wasn't really trying to be nice to new players, it was just trying to be nice in general. Mind changing the Title, OP?

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 15:08

#17

Blitz-Winger

Gather around children, for I have a story to tell.

Story time!

One time i was farming some RT with a newbie (which was the leader) and we had reached the final boss, and he was manning the switches. He wasn't doing so well the timing so i decided that I should help hit the switches because i knew the timing. I hit the switches twice and got the timing right, but then i get kicked.

Life lesson: Don't touch a man's switch to help or you will get kicked.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 15:11

#18

Xaphak

@Blitz-Winger

That's why I just farm it alone. 10 minutes a run, nobody to mess with stuff. I do love when someone screws up and blames it on others. Makes me happy.

Now thats the life.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 07:39

#19

Arelic

/jk

Sometimes it takes more than an hour to find someone to give it to. And sometimes mailing it to someone is just as effective if you just wanted to give it away. Also not even Gremlins trust Gremlins. So why should we? D:<

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 09:07

#20

Seiran

sometimes, you just have to do it.

Some guy was begging for like, 3 energy (or whatever it was, it was some miniscule amount) in either zone or public chat. I mailed him the energy, a forbidden fruit, and a fake ominous message, just because. We had a short correspondence where he asked if I wanted anything, and I continued the fake tone and said nope.

He sent me back a mail with 2k in return lol.

@Blazberry
I got one 99% of you have have experienced.

:; I'll use my sparks and all to revive people (and refill when I get back to town), but I make it known that I'm running on a limited supply too, so after the first revive, I have that person on watch so I try to keep them from danger lol.
#teamwork

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 09:46

#21

Lsdakfjlkfdajlkads

I remember helping a person

I remember helping a person who needed to finish the gauntlet mission. It was just the first depth and he kept nagging like hurry up or get on the button. He even nagged when he was dead. Once we reached the next depth. I just left him there. Muahhaha.

There was also another dude that randomly joined my Fsc party. I barely knew the guy and he decided to afk for a bit. The party leader didn't like that and booted him. Then he was like why did you kick me? I told him I was not the party leader and he still said why did you kick me. I was wow dude, can't you read? I can't kick you. Only the party leader can kick people. Then he asked but why? Then I saw that he was in another Fsc run and I was thinking in my head, why do you care? You just joined another Fsc run. I just removed him from my friends list.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 10:01

#22

Arelic

/shrug

So, a few bad experiences, ey?

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