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Sat, 08/16/2014 - 18:13
Gbot-Vtwo's picture
Gbot-Vtwo

So me and my friend Enlightnedmean are going through the arcade, and all of the sudden, we kill the enemy's in almost 2 hits!(let me remind you this is on elite and no we are not on T1. we were on T2 but it should have been a lot harder than just 2 or 3 hits.) is this game getting to easy or is it a bug?
And to top that we got even MORE rewards than we were suppose to. is it a bug or did the devs make it Much more easy than before? Let me remind you that it was not that easy before the bug fixes. Can somebody explain?

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 18:28
#1
Crazee-Pi-Forum's picture
Crazee-Pi-Forum
Move over, there's bubble-wrap to be popped!

The rewards are mainly based on luck I believe

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 18:36
#2
Xaphak's picture
Xaphak
*Advanced Gremlin Programming Knowledge*

It's a sense of progression. Enemies won't die as easily in Tier 3, ESPECIALLY in Tier 3 danger rooms, as the enemies are actually more powerful there than the rest of Tier 3. (Almost as if they're trying to be tier 4, but there is no tier 4 programmed in the game yet)

Also, if there are only 2 of you, the health of enemies is nerfed so it isn't ridiculously hard to kill them on your own. With a team of 4, enemies are a lot tougher. That's why danger missions sometimes have the strange souls, to add difficulty so the lack of health doesn't make it easy.

But yes, Tier 1 and 2 are really no problem, but since you're effectively at your max while enemies are at their max, you can't outrank the enemies in tier 3, making the enemies in tier 3 a lot more difficult by comparison.

Also, Shadow Lairs can add some difficulty, especially RRT. Rocket Puppies and Darkfang Demos. Fun!

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Also, the game can be VERY easy with the right equipment and skill, however, without the correct equipment and skill, it will be extremely difficult on later floors.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 18:39
#3
Gbot-Vtwo's picture
Gbot-Vtwo
But SK, y u so easy?

yea but we got more than we should have and to top it off it was SO easy that we were bored for the rest of the arcade run.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 18:50
#4
Xaphak's picture
Xaphak
@Galaxthekillrmech

The difficulty doesn't really change the reward. (Though Elite does fetch you more than Normal). For instance, FSC is extremely easy, and you make 9 - 10k per run. It's really dependent on the levels you get.

Lichenous Lairs generally have good payout, but are really easy.

Compounds have a bad payout, and are pretty difficult. (Based on your setup and the compound setup)
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It's also what you're good at. I can finish 'Built to Destroy!', boss and all, in around 10 minutes, solo.

Though I really dislike the Royal Jelly Palace.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 19:02
#5
Jabbzz's picture
Jabbzz
@OP

I recall sometimes I could 1 shot Scuttlebots in T2 on elite with my rocket hammer. I really think you and your friend just had a really good run.

It all comes down to luck when you talk about loot drops, and you two just had some very good luck :)

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 19:05
#6
Blazzberry's picture
Blazzberry
SCP-96

I'll do you a solid, Raven.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/trCU6IjSBV-l8e2rodxM6Ww/htmlview?... <-All the info for boxes recorded by Skepticraven themself. As people mentioned before, the monsters health doubles, triples and even hits the quads when others are present in the party, making 2 man parties efficient. It's no surprise it was "easy" :x

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 19:13
#7
Gbot-Vtwo's picture
Gbot-Vtwo
WAYYYY to easy!

WAY too easy. also i forgot to mention, there were 3 of us. They need to make those levels A LOT HARDER(or for elite) otherwise its not fun at all and it is the worst for the entire party.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 19:27
#8
Blazzberry's picture
Blazzberry
SCP-96

Easy? I'm not sure you want to provoke OOO.

....You were here last winterfest, right?

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 19:40
#9
Jabbzz's picture
Jabbzz

Ahh yes, the gremlin Mountain of Doom or better yet the Tortodrone event we just had. That was a lovely easy, not overpowered in anyway kind of mission wasn't it?

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 19:48
#10
Sonosuke's picture
Sonosuke
(~O ,O)~ #Sonosuks

Oh my vog, the memories of that mountain.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 02:58
#11
Thunder-The-Bright's picture
Thunder-The-Bright
gods ain't gonna help you, son.

the "normal" game has been nerfed quite a bit over the year 2012 if I recall correctly. from then on, endgame players have had an easy, quite boring time. except SLs, grinchlin and tortodrones, and SoA in some measure.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 22:43
#12
Straight-Line

You could always make handicaps for yourself. Maybe going sheildless, full chaos, and 1 star weapons+ without battle sprites

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 07:35
#13
Arelic's picture
Arelic
@Straight-Line

I agree. One challenge I proposed at random while running FSC was to use no charge attacks. :P THAT worked out great. lol

Tue, 08/19/2014 - 13:18
#14
Fangel's picture
Fangel
Keep in mind the strata.

Monsters will have less health in the first half of tier 2 opposed to the second half. (Strata 3 and 4 respectfully) All boss missions take place in the second half of their tier, AKA the even strata. Odd strata will have less payout and easier enemies.

Has your gear changed since the last time you've run the arcade? That might be something.

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 19:20
#15
Neoretro's picture
Neoretro
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Playing a lot makes you good at predicting where enemies will strike. In that same vein, NOT playing will make you fall out of practice. I just came back to the game after a long break and noticed that everything seemed a lot more difficult because I'm rusty. Perhaps you just need to play a different game for a while. Just a suggestion.

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 19:51
#16
Mystrian's picture
Mystrian

Neoretro, Galaxthekillrmech isn't complaining. He/she just has a big ego.

Galaxthekillrmech, you didn't mention if you had any UV's. (Kind of obvious though)

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