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So this happened to me today.....

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Sun, 09/14/2014 - 10:11
Aboudeh's picture
Aboudeh

http://imgur.com/TFmCrW9
I guess soloing vanaduke has its rewards ;)
Isnt this like as rare as a BKC drop or something?

Sun, 09/14/2014 - 11:07
#1
Bopp's picture
Bopp
3 Eternal Orbs in one box

To save people having to view an image when text would do the same thing: He found three Eternal Orbs in one treasure box.

Sun, 09/14/2014 - 11:10
#2
Abelisk's picture
Abelisk
oh wow

That's as rare as finding equipment in the clockworks =0 Maybe a bit more rare but not as rare as Darkfang Shield xp

Sun, 09/14/2014 - 11:44
#3
Skepticraven's picture
Skepticraven
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My comment on treasure box rarity drops.

If you had gotten 3 sparks of life from the same box in addition to the 3 orbs, that might be approaching the rarity of a darkfang shield.
That being said, 3 orbs from one box is still pretty rare.

Sun, 09/14/2014 - 12:14
#4
Aboudeh's picture
Aboudeh
Wait so the rarity of this is what?

I looked at you spreadsheet (Thanks for putting the effort into making it btw) and it said for red boxes that an orb is about 1% (.92%). So the rarity of this is .0092.X0092X.0092=.000000778688%?
Edit: My math was wrong xD

Sun, 09/14/2014 - 12:10
#5
Skepticraven's picture
Skepticraven
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Not quite - I don't specifically have the rarity "triple" drops recorded in the data.
I don't know the rates for a triple drop.

However, if you want to assume that data captures the triple drop the math would go something like this:

Red box rate of orbs: 0.92% (or probability of 0.0092)
That probability is the sum of getting a single orb OR 3 orbs at the same time.
0.0092 = (probability of 1 orb)*1+(probability of 3 orbs)*3
After this point, I can't say anything more with the data, because I dont know either independent probability.

In the post I linked to, I made a conservative estimate (read: I guessed for that part) that you are 100x more likely to find 1 orb instead of 3 orbs to make the rest of my calculations.
This same estimate would put the probability of finding three orbs at a probability close to 0.00089% chance (p of 0.0000089).

Sun, 09/14/2014 - 13:26
#6
Brother-Zeke's picture
Brother-Zeke
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This actually happened to one of my guildies three days ago. He was soloing as well, but at a wolver den.
Coincidence?

(This picture was posted with the approval of the person in the picture)

Sun, 09/14/2014 - 13:32
#7
Abelisk's picture
Abelisk

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Sun, 09/14/2014 - 13:33
#8
Abelisk's picture
Abelisk
I know I know it's right

speculations:
What I think is happening is the game's randomizing component has been bugging out lately. As you may or may not have known - the things you find inside treasure boxes are randomized when a knight enters a level. So if you just entered Vana's boss room, the chests at the end all have pre-determined items, heat, and crowns.

Yesterday I hit two stone blocks in a Candlestick Keep level and they were rock jellies! Today, I found three green treasure boxes that contained 3 +3 vitapods... Hmm, I think something is happening with their randomizing generator. Let's take advantage of it!

Sun, 09/14/2014 - 13:36
#9
Ironclaw-Mender's picture
Ironclaw-Mender
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"Hmm, I think something is happening with their randomizing generator"

Yeah, all the fire crystals and orbs I've found have been coming out in threes.
So on one hand, you get lovely bonuses like OP found, but on the other hand, all the crap orbs and crystals appear more frequently.

Sun, 09/14/2014 - 13:50
#10
Fehzor's picture
Fehzor

As you may or may not have known - the things you find inside treasure boxes are randomized when a knight enters a level. So if you just entered Vana's boss room, the chests at the end all have pre-determined items, heat, and crowns.

How on earth can you know that?

Sun, 09/14/2014 - 13:51
#11
Autofire's picture
Autofire
You are experiencing a PICNIC ERROR!

I think there are bugs with the RNG of this game! I only got 9-12 Radiants in Elite on a Danger Mission! :O

#OOOmustfixrads

@OP

I have gotten the 3 Eternals from a box before...I think twice. However, I would really prefer to get 3 Elite Orbs from a box...

Sun, 09/14/2014 - 14:20
#12
Midnight-Dj's picture
Midnight-Dj
@Autofire

Lol, yesterday, I went for a clock work marathon, no arenas and just one danger room in the final depth. 30 RADIANTS... RNGesus smiled upon me.

@OP, meh, eternal orbs are useless now days thanks to the semi-radiant drought, I have 60 of them and have nothing in mind to craft. #bringbackmist or #lowerradpriceinSD

Sun, 09/14/2014 - 17:09
#13
Me-Luv-Ulongtime
4 sparks...

Found 3 sparks of life in one box in the right set of boxes after beating Lord Vanaduke. And another in the left set. I didn't take a pic. I've been finding sparks very regularly in last month. Moved from 32 to now 80. Didn't seem like a big deal.

So far, for all the persons i've asked, no one seems to notice an increase in spark drops except me. I'm used to being lucky tho :)

Sun, 09/14/2014 - 17:34
#14
Rhagnarock
my 2 cents

I seen items drop lately in the game too. I didn't even knew it was brought back.

The guy dropped a 2* shadow alch in vana... he was so excited,

Back on topic: It often happens that loot spawn elsewhere than it "normaly would" meaning that sometimes a drop from a box can be next to another. Having a triple eternal as only been done with others boxes around it broken. Which leads me to believe the loot spawn placement is more at fault here than a triple spawn.

Check the radiant on the left in the OP link, it's a good exemple of what I'm talking about... then check on the right, normal spawn.

I'm not denying a triple drop. Just pointing some things out that COULD also happens.

Sun, 09/14/2014 - 18:29
#15
Bopp's picture
Bopp
was a thread about it

There was a thread recently about the increased drop rate of Sparks of Life, yes.

Sun, 09/14/2014 - 19:05
#16
Red-Galaxy's picture
Red-Galaxy
to think this happened to you

And this guy can't even get 1

http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/104676

Mon, 09/15/2014 - 11:24
#17
Avihr's picture
Avihr
@Midnight

I got 45 rads today in the arcade O.o

RNGesus provides.

Mon, 09/15/2014 - 11:27
#18
Turn-Me-On's picture
Turn-Me-On
45 isnt too far out of normal

45 isnt too far out of normal range. Once it gets to 60+ in arcade, thats when somethings up. I bet for each 45 rfc run one person gets, 10 people get 18 or less.

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