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Does this world cycle more than just floors?

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Thu, 10/02/2014 - 18:16
Holy-Nightmare's picture
Holy-Nightmare

http://wiki.spiralknights.com/File:Scenario_Room-Graveyard_1.png

http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Jorin

A fallen knight of Almire named Torin and a living knight of Isora named Jorin......

The story of Almire is that is was set upon by surrounding kingdoms, we of Haven are constantly under attack by the denizens of Cradle.....

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 18:39
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Klipik-Forum's picture
Klipik-Forum
Half-life 3 confirmed?

I think this quite a stretch. For one, Torin and Jorin aren't the same name, but merely sound similar. This could come from anything to Isoran translations of Almirian names into familiar ones, to pure coincidence. Also you would have a hard time calling anything on Cradle other than the Crimson Order a "kingdom", and the lore states there were multiple kingdoms. And I don't think Cradle pulled in worlds from alternate times during its creation.

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 03:03
#2
Neometal's picture
Neometal

Fire!

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 07:36
#3
Bopp's picture
Bopp
can you connect it

Can you connect it to the end of Ghosts in the Machine? The game world cycles through time somehow?

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 08:56
#4
Holy-Nightmare's picture
Holy-Nightmare
@ Bopp

The Bodies and armor at the end of "Ghosts in the Machine" have the appearance of Isoran armor (Spiral knights are the Armed forces of Isora for those who don't know). Before Isora was consumed by war (against whom we haven't been told) it is possible that either the Government of Isora secretly (or not) sent out research vessels. This could have been one of them and the Gov't kept this a secret from it's people (like most Gov'ts). It also could have been a group of private explorers, either way it never made big news on the homeworld when this exploratory vessel failed to report in.

The Machine from GITM could have been a gremlin battlepod that somehow gained sentiency (from SK tampering or a mad gremlin creator) either way it killed the explorers.

All in all I believe that GITM reveals that Isorans have been to Cradle before and died before they could activate a warning beacon or something like that (ever seen the movie Alien? The crew of the Nostromo pick up a signal from a planet, after investigating and getting a crew member Face-hugged they return to the ship later deducing that the signal was not a distress signal but a signal meant to warn people to stay away)

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 09:20
#5
Ankung's picture
Ankung
I have my own theory on the ghosts...

And I'll probably make a thread named "Brief lore theory" about it or something.

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 09:52
#6
Bopp's picture
Bopp
no I meant

Okay, but my idea was more like: When you start the mission, the distress call has just been sent and received (both in the present). While you are running the mission, different parts of the Cradle/Clockworks are cycling differently through time. At the end of the mission, your present is no longer aligned with the advance team's present. Their present is hundreds of years in your past. (Don't worry. Four days later, your present will align with their present again.)

P.S. I'm not really invested in this idea. I was just going along with your thread, because this game needs more plot.

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 10:13
#7
Gbot-Vtwo's picture
Gbot-Vtwo
+1

That would be a cool thing to add In SK lore though.

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 04:42
#8
Vohtarak-Forum's picture
Vohtarak-Forum
im vohtarak

they "look" to be hundreds of years old, its not confirmed

either they were turned into frankenzoms, possibly a rapid decay process
or they just got a thick coat of dust

also plausible is the thing nightmare said about a previous exploration team
but the battlepod intercepted the message and waited to send it out

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 13:35
#9
Holy-Nightmare's picture
Holy-Nightmare
On the Big Iron and frankenzoms

I'm pretty sure most of you aren't horror movie buffs but in the movie "Virus" ( A homicidal machine from space has taken over the machines of a research vessel, kills the crew, and proceeds to build more robots) the basic principle of what the villain's purpose is, is stated in simple sentence.

"It wants us for spare parts"

It's built as much as it can with the old crew and it now knows that there are more, which is why it sent out that signal. While there are constructs and undead there is absolutely no sign of organic life. Chances are The Big Iron has become somewhat of a danger zone for the monsters of cradle, we just didn't get the memo...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120458/

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 13:47
#10
Bopp's picture
Bopp
that's fine

That's all quite reasonable. But it doesn't explain why the spacesuits appear to be hundreds of years old.

I don't think that Three Rings was going for Oohnorak's explanation either. (The room is just very dusty? The bacteria there are unusually active?)

Possibly Three Rings doesn't even know what the explanation is supposed to be. It could just be some random weird stuff with no plan, like the TV show "Lost". But I hope that Three Rings is better than that.

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 14:44
#11
Gbot-Vtwo's picture
Gbot-Vtwo
@Bopp,

Yeah me too.(Idk why but I was about to type,"Boop" Instead of "Bopp".)

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 21:57
#12
Spiralka-Chan's picture
Spiralka-Chan
Quests in the Machine

...so what about "do not hold back" and "WE WILL NOT HOLD BACK". What are they talking about?

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 22:05
#13
Red-Galaxy's picture
Red-Galaxy
@Amphibolia

It's possible that the people that sent the distress single were trying to tell you to not give up on destroying the big iron. The big iron probably responded with the second message after that. Who the hell "we" is I have no clue, perhaps ghosts really were in the machine.

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 22:49
#14
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Ill-Fate-Ill

I think the Clockworks pulls in chunks of planet and stuff from space and arranges it in a fortress formation around the Core. As for Ghosts in the Machine, I think it's a space station that was pulled into Cradle with the same tractor bean that pulled the Skylark in. It happened to have a battlepod which somehow sucks souls and stuff into it.

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 04:45
#15
Vohtarak-Forum's picture
Vohtarak-Forum
im vohtarak

that wasn't a tractor beam that pulled the knights in
it was lasers that shot them down
they also had similar looks to the cannons in OCH

backup to that theory: tractor beams dont cause explosions when they lock on

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