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If you could modify any weapon...

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Sat, 11/08/2014 - 19:26
Keepscaite's picture
Keepscaite

For example, having a Fang of Vog that inflicts shock instead, or a vortex bomb that (somehow) does piercing damage, or a Polaris that burns enemies, etc etc.

If I could modify any weapon, I'd like to have a Catalyzer that freezes enemies and does neutral damage. This is really lethal on a Catalyzer since it's charge doesn't break freeze.

Sat, 11/08/2014 - 20:27
#1
Bopp's picture
Bopp
to make it more powerful?

This is a fine discussion to have, but to clarify: Is our goal to make the weapon more powerful, or to make the game more balanced, or what?

Sat, 11/08/2014 - 20:36
#2
Keepscaite's picture
Keepscaite
To make a weapon type reach

To make a weapon type reach it's full potential.

Though I say that, I'm fully prepared for everything posted on this thread to completely ruin the game's balance.

Inb4 5* status blast bombs, curse hazes, elemental Retribution, and freeze Blitz.

Sat, 11/08/2014 - 23:00
#3
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Tech-Star
Peircing Brandish / Levithan Blade

Because I don't like the Flourish.

Sat, 11/08/2014 - 23:09
#4
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Fehzor

To make a weapon type reach its full potential.. I think we had this conversation already. Yes, I suggested a stun FoV, as stun changes your attack speed and the charge would always "flash charge" because of it, resulting in a fang of vog whose charge dealt double damage with no real penalty- just stun instead of fire. I think it would still work that way? They might have fixed it.

On a less insanely powerful level, a stun and piercing themed polaris would be immensely powerful for fighting fiends, while a curse and elemental dread venom striker would be one of the strongest possibilities on that front.

Sun, 11/09/2014 - 01:22
#5
Turn-Me-On's picture
Turn-Me-On
An FoV without the self fire

An FoV without the self fire

Sun, 11/09/2014 - 03:58
#6
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Drischa

I'd change sudaruska so it dealt stun on the second swing.

Or up the chances on the status flourishes.

Or make all split damage weapons deal less damage.

Sun, 11/09/2014 - 06:26
#7
Keepscaite's picture
Keepscaite
@Fehzor

That's.... that's really f*cking dangerous actually. FoV has a 'good' chance of triggering status with every slash. Combine that with the Vog's (relatively) fast attack speed, the FoV would become either a powerful utility tool that could perma-stun slower enemies while still being able to be used as a Nuke with it's powerful charge attack. And you can now use it against Oilers!

Sun, 11/09/2014 - 06:55
#8
Bopp's picture
Bopp
Celestial Saber?

Isn't a "stun Fang of Vog" basically Celestial Saber? Except that CS swings faster than FoV, and probably has a lower chance of status?

Sun, 11/09/2014 - 07:41
#9
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Krakob
@Bopp

The chances widely vary between the two; FoV is probably 2nd to most consistent sword in terms of status infliction, just behind status Brandishes. The biggest difference is self infliction, though. That's what would allow constant and consisten flash charges and it would be nothing short of quite insane. I reckon OOO wouldn't like to implement something like that, though. It would just be too buggy.

Sun, 11/09/2014 - 08:18
#10
Bopp's picture
Bopp
yeah

Yeah, I did acknowledge the difference in chances. But I was ignoring the self-infliction and the status on regular attacks. So I was ignoring a lot. They are pretty similar, though.

Sun, 11/09/2014 - 08:36
#11
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Vohtarak-Forum
I'm vohtarak, call me by that name

I would make warmaster rocket hammer hav a 100% flinch on final swing and charge, its an absolute rip off when I try to flinch things and it NEVER WORKS WHEN I NEED IT TO

Sun, 11/09/2014 - 10:34
#12
Fehzor's picture
Fehzor

FoV spins around an extra time and almost always deals its status in strong. Fov is also split elemental, which means that its underlying damage values are crazy town, waiting to be unleashed with whatever damage ups you can find..... but really, the self inflicted and strong stun is what I'm after.

Sun, 11/09/2014 - 12:22
#13
Tech-Star's picture
Tech-Star
Wait, modify ANY weapon?

Make the Celestial Saber craft-able, alongside the Tortodrone fists being all year round. Same with Obsidian Weapons.

Sun, 11/09/2014 - 17:10
#14
Holy-Nightmare's picture
Holy-Nightmare
Damage type cutter lines

Damage type cutter lines

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 04:54
#15
Skold-The-Drac's picture
Skold-The-Drac
Say it with me now

Shocking cutter
Improved status chance on flourishes (brandish-chance)
Unbreakable-until-finished-being-frozen Hail Driver
Sealed Brandish (utterly random explosion chance between 2-5 explosions, each with a different status chance)
Lowered chance of status on brandish lines/ removal of 2 explosions per * brandish below 5
Change on cutter-line to knockdown on all hits until final strike, either branch
Plasma razor (say hello to the new 5* winmillion with a chance of shocking your enemies on a regular swing and burning them on the charge, high chance of low shock, low chance of medium fire)
Non-invincitink shards
Alchemers that rebound responsibly (physics, not rng)
Antigua that gives 2 piercing shots instead of regular on charge
Poison DBB (because reasons)
Kelvin's Coil (catalyzer that minor freezes on normal shots half the time, but when the charge detonates it's a mid-chance of strong fire)
Hydrogen dioxide gun (knockback only for as long as you hold button down, fires with valiance accuracy at blitz's rate, no damage)
Third Troika
Stunning Flamberge (regular shots chance at stun, charge gets fire)
BN bomb, set at rad 5, will drop instantaneously at cost of fuse time being BAB length for shard damage explosions.
Normal damage DR to watch the world burn
Gran Faust with Faust charge time

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 05:16
#16
Vohtarak-Forum's picture
Vohtarak-Forum
I'm vohtarak, call me by that name

um skold theres already a dihydrogen monoxide gun
the spiral soaker

I would give magnus lines a 4 shot clip
and increase the base speed to the equivalent of adding asi low
and give callahan a working flinch rate on all shots of the combo

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 08:15
#17
Neometal's picture
Neometal
/wave

I'd just bring back the old shard bombs.

RIP rss :/

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