OK i get people where complaining about the alch guns being overpowered by becoming to fast. But they have became completely under powered now because of the update. Every other gun had an update but the alch guns got nerfed and i spent a lot of crowns getting my alch guns the way i want by rolling them over and over. The attack speed is useless now meaning the alch guns are now just plan useless. Don't get me wrong i like the update but it seems like an original weapon has been turned into a wast of crowns. Thank you very much for making me wast 500k+ crowns
alch gun hugely neffed
Thu, 12/04/2014 - 21:05
Thu, 12/04/2014 - 21:09
#2
You enjoyed them while it
You enjoyed them while it lasted, at least.
Thu, 12/04/2014 - 21:12
#3
you can still switch shoot by shield canceling first, just takes an extra button press.
Thu, 12/04/2014 - 21:15
#4
it seems like OOO is dumb
OOO is taking complaints from noobs who cant switch weapons fast quickly like the gunner pros (like me) and they didn't care to see the people who love the guns getting screwed over. The gunners will ban together and hopefully OOO will see it and fix this becuse the alch guns are gonna be like the arc swords useless.
Thu, 12/04/2014 - 21:18
#5
There is the funny story actually.
So I was heating my gunner update guns, and things were going well. Wow! I am doing so well! I am doing all of the damage ever! I was thinking.
And then I switched back to alchemers for a level, because I can't forget the alchemers- they've been my go to weapons for everything serious since forever! I thought they'd be kind of meh in comparison to all of the craziness, but oh my had I forgotten just how strong they were, in my quest to master a large sum of random weapons.
Thu, 12/04/2014 - 22:31
#6
Alchs useless? Not at all,
Alchs useless? Not at all, they can still be swapped and the charge attacks remain amazing in LD
Thu, 12/04/2014 - 22:42
#7
Wait
Am I missing something here? Did they decrease the damage?
...If it's just the damage, I say, how dare you call alchemers useless.
...If it's just the /speed/, I say, how dare you call alchemers useless.
...If it's that they removed the ability to switch alchemers without letting the 2-shot reload animation finish, I say,
...That doesn't really matter too much if you can reset it with a shield cancel, then switch. Where's the harm done?
*I'm currently using Steam, so I have no idea what's going on with unlisted gun mechanics...
Thu, 12/04/2014 - 23:12
#8
Alchemer switching is good, but it isn't THAT good- it's the incredible charge that makes alchemers so delicious.
Thu, 12/04/2014 - 23:55
#9
I used a Nova Driver in FSC
I used a Nova Driver in FSC earlier.
No complaints, it works like normal. The only reason you can possibly be complaining about alchemers is due to ignorance.
It sounds like you haven't even tried double switching ever, let alone single switching. Those were unaffected by this beast of an update; therefore, alchemers retain their usefulness.
Nova Master Race. Get REKT
Fri, 12/05/2014 - 00:11
#10
Actually it sounds like he was using switching earlier, but by switching in the middle of the animation, which used to work, but doesn't anymore. Only shield canceling first, then switching was unaffected.
Fri, 12/05/2014 - 00:30
#11
So I'm confused. I tried Alchemer switching and nothing's different. Have I been doing it wrong the whole time, or something? Shoot+shield cancel + Switch + repeat, right?
Fri, 12/05/2014 - 00:34
#12
algorithms are the solutions to any problem.
what flowchart said.
the game waits to switch weapons until you reload or you stop shooting and let the animation finish. that being said, shield cancelling can cancel out the animation. you can also now single-shoot pretty fast, considering that when the "put down" animation starts, the ammo count resets.
Fri, 12/05/2014 - 01:02
#13
^Single switch speed hasnt
^Single switch speed hasnt changed
Fri, 12/05/2014 - 03:02
#14
@Klipik
It's more like shoot + switch + shield cancel + repeat.
Fri, 12/05/2014 - 05:19
#15
@Poopsie No, it's shoot, shield cancel, switch, repeat.
Fri, 12/05/2014 - 08:44
#16
Is this thread about "before
Is this thread about "before update I did cheat with game mechanics and now I can't! Bad OOO!" or ewbte misunderstood?
Fri, 12/05/2014 - 08:54
#17
It's almost like they wanted to cut down on an unintentional and widely abused mechanics exploit to fire "heavy" guns faster than the "fast" guns...
Fri, 12/05/2014 - 12:20
#18
I'm vohtarak, call me by that name
(post deleted to avoid argument)
Fri, 12/05/2014 - 09:38
#19
If Whim and Oohonarak could
If Whim and Oohonarak could read, they would realize that switch shooting has remained unaffected.
Also, fast guns = antigua
You cant switch shoot anything faster than an antigua.
Lastly, shield cancelling is in the wiki, and applies to all weapons. Why don't you guys learn a thing or two before posting nonsense.
Fri, 12/05/2014 - 12:20
#20
I'm vohtarak, call me by that name
im just not going to explain because I see this will lead to a pointless argument
Fri, 12/05/2014 - 12:23
#21
^
Smart choice.
^
Smart choice.
Mon, 12/08/2014 - 17:35
#22
Spelling.EXE
Spelling.EXE crashed......
Alchemers did get a bit of a nerf but it also forces players to focus on the it's other use.... Charge attack sniping.
When soloing you can often KO an enemy before it notices you (perfect for safe elimination of Turret style enemies).
Sat, 12/13/2014 - 01:16
#23
<ul>...<ul>
"Actually it sounds like he was using switching earlier, but by switching in the middle of the animation, which used to work, but doesn't anymore. Only shield canceling first, then switching was unaffected."
This. Came on and did FSC for the first time back in a few months the other night and my Trollaris->Argent 2-5-2-5-2-5 ect ad-nauseam has seen the kybosh and went the way of the Dodo.
I wish we could have legacy servers that ran as the game were before the REZ/HOH/Missions updates.
~Luke
Sat, 12/13/2014 - 14:56
#24
I really hope the OP is trying to be satirical...
I can still one shot multiple zombies with a single Nova Driver charge shot. Alchemers out DPS most of these new weapons, if you're good with your shots (with the exception of maybe the Grim Repeater). So if you think you've wasted 500k+ on a weapon because it now takes you 0.1 more seconds to shoot, then you need to rethink your life.
doofus.