To me the Sprite update along with the new shard bombs was the Bomber update. And swords don't need an update, they deal enough damage as is. Last time we got a sword update the Acheron got buffed, and that's something we didn't need.

the armors are not confusing
look in the arsenal
theres a topic with a visual diagram of the system used to classify/identify all the new things

and if you try out guns, you might find some you like, and get new strategies because of it

I'm actually glad that they did it this way. Why? Because it allows them to balance weapon types one at a time. Next up, they can do swords or bombs, and guns will have to wait for a while before getting fixes. For now though, they've got some problems to sort out, or most likely choose to ignore.

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Dude. Dude what? Whyyyyy? In what way do you want swords to be improved? They're still the most powerful in terms of raw damage. If anything, I think the game is finally balanced now.

...Unless you're a bomber.

Endangered? I thought they were extinguished long time ago, I want to know where are the remaining specimens O_O

Swords don't really need anything. I've been playing with the new guns and Magnus changes all day, but just now I switched back to Acheron to deal with a mecha knight arena. Still as easy as it was, and still top-tier.

@Aviri

That never came across as a bug. It never said that every swing had to have the same range anywhere.

In a realistic sense, this doesnt make sense, unless the knight has an elastic polymer arm or something.

I always assumed the hitbox for the final hits of swords was extended to account for the knockback of the first hit hit(s).

So basically you're saying that it is a completely natural thing that your sword clips through things but it doesn't really cause damage to them?

Besides I already showed in the video that all finishing swings in combos of swords have in fact more reach than the first two, but when actually used while not blocked by a wall the hitbox is behind a player and misses when it shouldn't. There is no way of saying that this isn't a bug, more so if the player hitbox is directly colliding with an object it has in front while swinging a sword yet it somehow misses the target? that is not only ridiculous, it is just plain impossible.

You seem to have misunderstood what I was trying to adress with my post, the problem isn't that the swings of sword combos have less reach, its the exact opposite, they have more reach, but they aren't well placed according to the animations for them and that hinders all sword users, at least while they're performing combos.

Midstepping would help you drive the hitbox closer to the monster in question to actually hit it, but the hitbox would still be as misplaced, the problem is that the hitbox doesn't move with the player, it stays on the point you initiated the swing and only the player is the one that actually moves, and I would not consider this to be a minor thing since some swings have their reach reduced about 80/90% (flourishes and cutters last swing) 3 hit standard swords like leviathan blade and combuster have it reduced by about 40% and heavy swords are the less affected because they have the less forward movement in their animation, i'd say that they have their 2nd swing reach reduced by 15/20% it gets worse the more the animation moves the player forward to make the swing.

And btw if you still want to discuss that I'd suggest you to do it on my post rather than here. (even though this post is kind of a joke and very insignificant, hardly worth saving but at least to keep things in order)

Bombers have been demoted to pretty much status infliction (DR and DBB is pretty much all the team friendly bombs there are besides haze) since we have demonized Shard and blast bombers so much.

I think we have enough strong weapons and armors, all we need for now, is a strong boss for us to torture.