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Auto-Target is scaring potential PvPers away

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jeu, 02/26/2015 - 20:37
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Dragonuity

The first thing newbie hear about when they play a match of Lockdown is rants about AT and accusations of AT directed at themselves. It really isn't helping anybody. Couldn't inspect show whether you use AT or not. Couldn't AT/Auto-Target/Auto-Aim be censored as if a swear word. There's a lot of what ifs I'm tired of getting accused of it myself and apparently the only way out is to record lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ex_yN-bXoP0

jeu, 02/26/2015 - 21:06
#1
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Ill-Fate-Ill

Just keep recording software on standby at all times, when someone accuses you, record and make a bet (5k CE or whatever) and upload it. Easy money.

jeu, 02/26/2015 - 21:55
#2
Ikyy
lol

This entire thread is you pretending you don't use AT.

ven, 02/27/2015 - 04:13
#3
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Krakob

AT whiners is far from the biggest problem newbies face in LD.

ven, 02/27/2015 - 04:59
#4
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Dragonuity
@Ikky

1. I might just use the free version of Fraps and record for 30seconds
2. I might try AT for the first time on Flourish/Faust and see whats so unfair about it.
3. Or I'll destroy you without AT like I do. :x

ven, 02/27/2015 - 05:24
#5
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Theirillusion

https://obsproject.com

ven, 02/27/2015 - 09:12
#6
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Meep-The-Bank
Meep.

''Or I'll destroy you without AT like I do. :x''

Isn't this message a display of non-AT that scares away newbies as well, contradicting your thread a bit? :x

ven, 02/27/2015 - 12:57
#7
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Dragonuity
That wouldn't happen if AT

That wouldn't happen if AT was available on inspect

ven, 02/27/2015 - 16:16
#8
Ikyy
lol

When you can't back up your claim, attack at another person to drive the conversation away from the problem at hand (:
Nooblogic101

ven, 02/27/2015 - 16:25
#9
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Krakob

Reading post #2 and post #8 in succession is pretty entertaining.

ven, 02/27/2015 - 20:41
#10
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Bullpig
 

i don't think i've ever heard a legit complaint about a new player in LD using AT, because they are new and obviously they don't have sufficient practice in LD to be able to aim and focus on switching and dodging etc. plus, who dies to a new cobalt AT combo spammer? that would be your own fault

people complain when AT is being abused by players with plenty of experience and good gear. if that's you, then you probably think damage makes you good and that's funny.

ven, 02/27/2015 - 21:27
#11
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Dragonuity
by "new" players, they could

by "new" players, they could be semi-experienced players that havn't been exposed to the firefight between AT-accusators and AT-users

ven, 02/27/2015 - 23:42
#12
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Retequizzle

1. I might just use the free version of Fraps and record for 30seconds
2. I might try AT for the first time on Flourish/Faust and see whats so unfair about it.
3. Or I'll destroy you without AT like I do. :x

i'll be more than happy to dust off my account to take you up on this

ven, 02/27/2015 - 23:59
#13
Ikyy
lol

Krakob, I was simply pointing out that he was using this thread as a cheap plug in of saying "I'm tired of being accused of AT". If you can't prove your usage of AT, then just shut up. Don't mask "I dont use AT" in a complaint post. When confronted, he just basically said "lol ur a nub i can destr0y u casually ayy lmao so nah i dun use Auto terget" instead of doing a quick 30 second fraps video showing that he isn't a useless piece of garbage.

Dragoniuty, I'd like to see you try. Might run into lava though, watch out. They didn't teach that in the rescue mission, did they?

sam, 02/28/2015 - 05:19
#14
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Bleyken

You all suck... Old at threads were way funnier than this garbage...

sam, 02/28/2015 - 11:22
#15
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Krakob

Maybe you should flip it around. Maybe the people who make up accussations should get some proof. I mean, if you're so confident in your everyone can record argument, you can record yourself and just take a look and see if it's AT or not, provided you know what signifies AT. If you'd properly study it a bit, it really shouldn't be that hard. I've never been one to enjoy this kind of stuff because anything relating to hunting AT players will achieve nothing but more toxicity in the community but I'm seriously considering following up my earlier studies and making a video showing how to distinguish AT from non-AT players without having them record just to put people who are still being elitist sillypies in their rightful place.

sam, 02/28/2015 - 12:43
#16
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Gun-Shots
wow...

I can't believe that people complain about auto target. I personally love using it, it shows how much skill I have, people that don't use auto target really suck, AT is love,AT is life, and if you don't believe me, I will stab you with a knife ^_^

sam, 02/28/2015 - 12:46
#17
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Gun-Shots
btw

Oh and by the way, all of you are noob, fight me 1v1 I will destroy you all, especially dragon he is just a promise noob hahaha

sam, 02/28/2015 - 12:50
#18
Ikyy
lol

krakob, yeah, I really don't care about AT. I care when people (like OP) make a big deal out of it.
I know how to tell already, it's the small twitch and change of aiming. Very easy to tell with a 30+ fps recording.

sam, 02/28/2015 - 13:38
#19
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Krakob

Exactly, so stop derailing threads with your baseless accusations and/or go get some proof that OP ATs, send it to him in proper private messaging and find out if he gives a crap.

sam, 02/28/2015 - 15:31
#20
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Gun-Shots
meh...

The way I see it, the only people that complain about auto target, are the same people that get killed by auto target. Do you ever see any cry about a noob using auto target? No, reason why is because they appose no threat to them, these people that cry about auto target are not mad that you use AT but angry that you beat them.

sam, 02/28/2015 - 16:39
#21
Ikyy
lol

Krakob, he is the one who is claiming he doesn't AT. The OP says "I'm tired of getting accused of it". Burden of proof: on him, not me.

sam, 02/28/2015 - 17:10
#22
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Krakob

Did you even read what you wrote?
he is the one who is claiming he doesn't AT. The OP says "I'm tired of getting accused of it".
Just read that a few times.

sam, 02/28/2015 - 17:51
#23
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Retequizzle

to be fair burden of proof can go either way in this case, he's asserting that he is not using AT and you are asserting that he is using AT; krakob's suggestion would fall within the bounds of that in terms of you proving that he does use AT. it's pretty clear that someone here is contesting AT as a norm so you can't really assume that one is true while the other is not if there's nothing actually being presented here for either side

i mean if you're gonna use the term you may as well get it right

sam, 02/28/2015 - 21:15
#24
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Dragonuity
Going to make a short video

Going to make a short video with free version of fraps

sam, 02/28/2015 - 21:54
#25
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Sweetsundere
Yo

Did you even bother to click illu's link? We don't want a short video, we want a full match.

https://obsproject.com

sam, 02/28/2015 - 21:54
#26
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Tempas
https://obsproject.com

https://obsproject.com

dim, 03/01/2015 - 00:34
#27
Ikyy
lol

krakob, after reading that multiple times, I have concluded that he is implying that he doesn't use AT.
Why?
"Accuse"
Read that a few times.

Retequizzle, sure. I don't want to spectate this guy though. 8 minutes of him running into fire and dying won't prove anything about AT.

~EDIT~
P.S.
It's not that hard to prove me wrong

dim, 03/01/2015 - 03:31
#28
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Krakob

No. If people are accusing him, it's up to them to provide proof. You're one of these people, given that you already in post #2 claimed OP is using AT and therefore the entire thread is invalid. If you don't wanna spend time backing up your reasons for derailing, maybe you should just stop.

dim, 03/01/2015 - 05:26
#29
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Valtiros
"The way I see it, the only

"The way I see it, the only people that complain about auto target, are the same people that get killed by auto target. Do you ever see any cry about a noob using auto target? No, reason why is because they appose no threat to them, these people that cry about auto target are not mad that you use AT but angry that you beat them."

Every sensible player tells new pvpers to turn AT off as well for them as for the community. As a matter of fact how can new players learn to aim if they are not even aware of this existence of their being helped by the computer?

For me if we sadly still have t3 players who play with auto aim, it's because the lack of t2 lockdown where they should have had time to learn to aim by theirselves. When there was t2, it was because of the lack of t1.

dim, 03/01/2015 - 06:18
#30
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Dragonuity
Used the free version of Fraps, will try OBS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I85OThqRanE

dim, 03/01/2015 - 07:27
#31
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Krakob

inb4 "didn't show AT off in menus, is invalid" comments

dim, 03/01/2015 - 07:27
#32
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Meep-The-Bank
Meep.

http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/108465#comment-983288

^
This thread, which initially was a topic about how ''Auto-Target is scaring potential PvPers away'' has now become a thread questioning if Dragonuity uses AT...

dim, 03/01/2015 - 07:41
#33
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Dragonuity
Question. Who would actually

Question. Who would actually watch me play lockdown, I can use OBS now

dim, 03/01/2015 - 07:45
#34
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Krakob

I sub to everyone who actively produces SK content on YT. That said, I won't necessarily watch everything you make but if you produce something interesting I'm sure I'll be interested!

dim, 03/01/2015 - 07:46
#35
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Gun-Shots
dragon

Nice video dude, but sadly this proves nothing because you didn't show that your auto aim was off :(.

dim, 03/01/2015 - 07:52
#36
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Dragonuity
It was just a test

Hard to open controls in the middle of an LD match when you only have 30 sec to record. :c I can record for the entire match now, will make sure I show it, although I think its pretty clear just watch my mouse

dim, 03/01/2015 - 14:37
#37
Ikyy
lol

Wasn't so hard, was it?

dim, 03/01/2015 - 15:10
#38
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Dragonuity
Going to make a full video

Going to make a full video soon

dim, 03/01/2015 - 17:17
#39
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Slice-And-Impale
Gawt some active haters. Let

Gawt some active haters. Let the AT users be, you also have the option to use it and is a fair mechanic in the game.

dim, 03/01/2015 - 19:17
#40
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Dragonuity
Made it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ex_yN-bXoP0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mG1Ljy8yXl0

dim, 03/01/2015 - 19:24
#41
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Valtiros
Slice> Neva!

Slice> Neva!

dim, 03/01/2015 - 20:52
#42
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Slice-And-Impale
Aw man

Aw man

lun, 03/02/2015 - 17:16
#43
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Valtiros
Dragonuity and Ikky > why not

Dragonuity and Ikky > why not both joining the "official" lockdown ranking to show us your NO AT skill? :)

lun, 03/02/2015 - 18:10
#44
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Slice-And-Impale
Same challenge lol. Ya know

Same challenge lol. Ya know what im talking about ;3

lun, 03/02/2015 - 18:21
#45
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Sweetsundere
@Valtiros

FYI Ikky already has videos with no AT, and it's easy to notice there's quite the skill in them.

lun, 03/02/2015 - 19:26
#46
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Dragonuity
I'm got an asi med arcana and

I'm got an asi med arcana and am heating it up for that very reason

lun, 03/02/2015 - 19:41
#47
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Sweetsundere

An Arcana to join the rankings? You may want to go read the rules again.

mar, 03/03/2015 - 13:05
#48
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Valtiros
I know Ikky has videos of no

I know Ikky has videos of no AT ^^ I m just encouraging them to get in the ranking :)

And Yes, sweetsu is right..arcana is forbidden :/ make a valliance rather :o

mer, 03/04/2015 - 12:23
#49
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Parasthesia
I think heart trinkets scare

I think heart trinkets scare new potential pvpers away. Nothing kills fun like being two hit by a more experienced or equipped player, and having to grind up trinkets while being pub stomped to have a chance to survive a few extra hits and learn.

mer, 03/04/2015 - 13:38
#50
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Gun-Shots
@para

Lol what, if anything asi scares new players away, because that's somthing that is very costly and scares people away.

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