Some clockwork gates I'm able to beat with ease. Others not so easy. Which one is for the absolute beginner? I'm very new and love the game but it's loosing its fun since I'm most likely choosing levels too hard for me...
Which to try first?
Fri, 06/10/2011 - 14:51
Fri, 06/10/2011 - 14:58
#2
The slime one I was doing
The slime one I was doing fine but now I can't seem to find one that is easy enough to beat on my own. I don't have a party yet and I solo in most MMORPG's. I just tried one but got.....pretty much destroyed.
Fri, 06/10/2011 - 15:03
#3
@graveyards
Since i always run solo ( curse you timezones of my friends ), and i experienced it firsthand, my friend told me bout what to do and bout Phantoms=red floating balls of doom, cannot die and will kill you
His advice to me : "RUN GOD RUN!"
I ran strait to the exit while all those skeletons keep coming out of the graves
e_e
Fri, 06/10/2011 - 17:46
#4
Gates
There really isn't much I can tell you about them, but knowing what is weak to what and what does what really helps. This is why there's a wiki (thank the heavens).
When you look for a good place to grind you want to look for something you know you can take care of, and in my experience Slime-themes were the easiest ones to take out. It would also be nice to know what tier you're running because some enemies become more complicated while others remain fairly simple, which would make it easier to determine what you can do better. If you can, try posting your equipment as well.
New gates appear all the time, and what they contain is random, so you just gotta experiment with the different types of areas to see what works better. While I can say that Gremlins are easy because I have a good Shadow weapon, someone else is doing excellent against Undeads with an Elemental weapon but not so good against Gremlins. Paying attention to the contents of a gate is key, so check the interface before going in.
Fri, 06/10/2011 - 17:57
#5
In terms of monster
In terms of monster difficulty it goes something like (least to most difficult):
Slime
Beast
Construct
Gremlin
Undead
Fiend
And the difficulty of status effects goes something like:
Poison
Freeze
Fire
Shock
You can obviously shift the difficulty around depending on how you gear; if you have a lot of shadow defense then undead become a lot easier. Fiends will generally be pretty hard no matter what just because they throw a million chairs at you. However, most players tend to get a mix of normal/elemental/piercing defense (wolver or magic set) and avoid shadow altogether since there aren't any bosses that do shadow damage at the moment.
Fri, 06/10/2011 - 23:46
#6
just play with people
just play with people already, if you want to play a solo RPG pick up oblivion or fallout 3.
Sat, 06/11/2011 - 02:25
#7
The answer is, I guess, very
The answer is, I guess, very player-dependent (and even equipment-dependent).
Graveyards, for instance, are not so hard since the monsters are always the same, zombies, and quite slow (phantoms are really not a big deal in T1, a bit more in T2, and even more in T3). Learn their attack pattern, don't wake them up all at the same time, and work in cooperation with the other players...
Same for other monsters: it mostly amounts to understand their attack pattern, how to avoid it (block, dodge, whatever) and how to kill them efficiently.
All the gates are supposed to be roughly as difficult as each other, especially in T1.
Sat, 06/11/2011 - 11:33
#8
I find the big trick to
I find the big trick to surviving graveyards is proper cooperation. So long as your group sticks together, and advances at a reasonable pace, even 4 phantoms aren't that hard to deal with. Clearing them is also reasonably profitable, to the point where I actually prefer to get them if I'm running with people I know I can depend on. I was actually pretty annoyed last night when I was running the Dark Pawn gate with a friend, and we got the Treasure Vaults on both "random" depths, which aren't nearly as cool as the name implies.
Metaphysic's ranking of the status difficulties is largely accurate. I think Fire layers are a bit easier than Freeze. Fire just means you take more damage for getting hit. Freeze generally means that you're going to get hit again. Usually 2 good hits are worse for you than 1 and some fire status. That said, depending on the depth, if you don't have a remedy capsule handy Fire can burn for a long, long time.
Creature rankings are a bit difficult to really nail down, at least by family. Again, his order is reasonably good, but there are almost always one or two specific critters in each family that are really dangerous, and in some cases there are one or two that aren't dangerous at all. Constructs, for instance. Lumbers aren't very threatening, once you learn how to deal with them. Scuttlebots are truly pathetic in T2. On the other hand I have nightmares about massed Retrodes sometimes.
The best approach is to take a largely defensive approach to fighting, particularly against enemies you're not familiar with. Try to draw them out instead of engaging them in groups where you find them. As you figure out how each monster acts, you'll be able to determine with greater confidence when and how to approach them. It'll also largely depend on what weapons you use. I'm a gunner with a heavy sword as a backup, so slower critters and ones without ranged attacks really don't worry me at all, as even my melee weapon generally ensures that I'm too far away to get hurt. Those people who use Cutter or Calibur line weapons, by comparison, are much more able to deal with the smaller and faster moving enemies than I am, but have to be more careful around the ones that I dismiss as trivial stacks of hit-points.
Sat, 06/11/2011 - 11:34
#9
Alright sounds good.
I will
Alright sounds good.
I will play with people when I am ready to make some friends :P
Yes, Slimes do seem to be the easiest of all themes.
I'm using the basic equipment you get from the start as I don't have enough Crowns to buy anything else. I'm playing a Tier 1 often dying on the second level.
Sat, 06/11/2011 - 14:10
#10
Shield and dodge.
If you're dying in tier 1, you need to learn how to shield and dodge. In tier 1, all enemies deal normal damage, so the difficulty between enemy types isn't as large as in deeper tiers where you'll encounter damage types that your armor doesn't protect against.
Playing solo is fine. I understand that multiplayer games aren't for everyone, and I think one of the neat things about SK is that you can play solo if you want. In fact, I did a lot of solo play in tier 1 to help me learn to use my shield and isolate enemies rather than rely on stronger teammates.
My advice is to practice using your shield. Change its button from "x" to something larger so it's easier to hit. (When not using a controller, I use tab for my shield because it's next to the numbers so I can quickly deploy vials, too.) Stick to tier 1 until you're regularly making it all the way through without dying. Better armor and weapons will help (2* is a lot better than your proto gear), and you can get 2* relatively cheaply from the auction house, but learning to use that gear properly is the most important thing.
If you're confused about how to use your shield well, consider finding just one veteran player to go with you in tier 1 so you can watch what they do. You'll also want to learn to "kite" enemies (i.e. get them to follow you so you can isolate and kill) so you can fight them 1-2 at a time instead of in unmanageably large groups.
avoid graveyard. Those zombies are hells.