Hi Wyv, can I just add that there is another loot room where if you walk counter-clockwise breaking all the boxes, two Kats+Trojan/two Trojans will spawn. That room has boxes on the sides of the room and a big space in the middle.
Kat Grinding Tips! (Mostly in the form of a Candlestick keep tutorial)
Sun, 06/07/2015 - 04:07
#6252
Hi Wyv, can I just add that
Mon, 06/08/2015 - 00:16
#6253
^
For that room you don't have to open the boxes for the 2/3 enemies to spawn, just have to walk (any direction) next to them.
Ofc it takes like +5 secs to break them, so might as well do it for some loot. :)
Tue, 06/09/2015 - 00:43
#6254
Has anyone else felt that Bkack Kats spawn less frequently in Weight of Darkness than they do in Alone in the Dark?
Tue, 06/09/2015 - 04:12
#6255
I'm vohtarak, call me by that name
Yeah someone did a test and found that wod has less average kats and more zombies than aitd
Tue, 06/09/2015 - 04:27
#6256
Ppl still do aitd? That's so 2014.
It came from below ftw!
Tue, 06/09/2015 - 10:26
#6257
spawn rates and mission choice
Cheshireccat's data from last year can be seen here
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/105673
His results for spawnrates of Kats in AitD comes out to be 21.8%, with 66/303 kats per run. His results for WoD comes out to be nearly 30%, which is a little high, but is likely because he did fewer WoD runs.
\I have completed 351 runs on WoD, and found 77 Kats. Thats 21.8%, which is almost exactly the same as Cheshire's AitD results. On the other hand, it is much lower than his WoD results, which leads me to wonder if his data suffers from too few samples. If his results for BK spawn rates are so far off, his findings for the total number of regular Kats may be as well. (I haven't been collecting info on the regular kat spawns.)
Basically:
BK's are no more likely to spawn on AitD as WoD
The "2 more kats on AitD" theory is likely false. If you are willing to believe his results, then you should also be willing to believe it when he says WoD spawns BK's 30% of the time, while AitD has a 22% chance.
Tue, 06/09/2015 - 11:15
#6258
Yuppers!
Good on you for making this little guide. Helpful for those who don't really memorize maps and stuff.
In terms of tactics, I would also say if you don't have any slots unlocked consider curse resistance. If you have a BKC already, a good pairing I've found is radiant silvermail (for poison candlesticks, such as WoD and Purr Terror if you want to farm its first level), and divine mantle (for shock ones). This cancels out the curse vulnerability of the black kat cowl, and if you don't have that item it'll likely save you from a minute of curse anyways!
Weapon-wise, I would suggest a warmaster rocket hammer if you have one, as they are great at taking down kats of all shapes and sizes. Secondary could be an antigua line or blaster line if you're wanting to move fast.
Also, don't forget about your sprite abilities! If you have a seraphynx you'll want to use that angelic aura quite a bit, especially helpful for grabbing keys and moving fast. Maskeraith players should be using their cloak and a drakon user might want to use their barrier to engage the black kats.
Finally, memorize the layouts of the generations. You can easily tell where a key will be needed, and if you look at the minimap you can figure out which way holds loot, thus avoiding that path.
Tue, 06/09/2015 - 13:02
#6259
@Fangel
I forgot to mention how bad curse can be haha! Wearing Chaos makes you receive a hefty 60 seconds of curse time, which, for the sake of time, often is a death sentence.
I've just started trying out the rocket hammer myself, so I don't have much say in the matter. However it is very useful for breaking through blocks, as the dash gives you that little boost that can even make you go faster than gun-wielding teammates.
Tue, 06/09/2015 - 13:21
#6260
Ah, right.
There are several situational tips as well, such as if you can see a timed explosive block you can throw a vial at it (if it's in range) to set it off before you reach it. For breaking blocks fast, you'll want either a rocket hammer for its dash attack, or a cutter line to cut through them.
Rocket hammers are supreme kat killers if used correctly. The first two attacks of the hammer, repeated several times, will likely be enough to kill any kat. For black kats, if they are beginning an attack, you might think about using the final swing to flinch them, but otherwise no worries.
Kat farming is actually a great opportunity to get auto-target involved. Depending on your connection, this may be easy or hard to pull off, however with enough timing it eats through kat health. What you want to do is time it so that when a kat is dashing behind you to either bite or fire bullets at you, your dash is going back with them from the hammer attack. With auto target on, it will lock you onto the kat, landing all 4 of the dash's attacks.
Solo at depth 24, with a damage boost of "high", you can kill black kats with about 3 hammer combos.
It's also worth noting that you can Rocket Hammer dash through the Grimalkins without taking damage.