Both of these are Magnus style guns and before the GU these two guns gave insight to new players what the Magnus line would work like. After the GU was released I expected these two guns to get changed, unfortunately they didn't. Change these guns so that they accurately represent their big brothers in the Magnus family.
@op:
Well i agree and disagree. The way i see these guns right now is a downgrade of the iron slug old mechanic. But at the same time, it's mechaninc is exactly the same as the iron slug and other magnus line. So why not upgrade them? Anyway, for my personal point of view, they should just get a buff in puching the enemy backwards and damaging them. I don't see them needing the piercing ability of going through all the enemies.
Also, the normal attack of the iron slug and magnus line needs a buff in my opinion. Like stonger impact causing stronger push back. The damage can stay the same, but a better animation would really be a huge plus. It's using the same animation as the pummel gun and punch gun. It should look a bit more powerful and push the player backwards a little farther.