So yesterday i decided to go sell my elite orbs again and the elite orbs were 14000 crowns each ... now a guy decided to mess with the economy and everyone else selling elite orbs and he sold them for 13250... now i ask you WHY WHY the hell you lower the prices? you don't get anything more than what the other people got when the elite orbs were 14k each and now look when i sold elite orbs for 14k i got around 86000k now that i did the calculation i gain only 12.8k for each elite orb i sell (cause of the market buy now fee) and now the total amount of crowns i get is 76800k ... lost a whole 10k now i ask WHY THE HELL WHY DO YOU THINK this god damn method helps you are anyone else -.- cant you keep the economy steady? is it so hard? do you really have to mess up everything and ruin the elite orbs in the auction house? Now i gain a total profit of 8900 crowns if i want to buy energy again to sell the elite orbs cause i buy 6 elite orbs rather than getting 9200 crowns.
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Traevelliath is correct. The guy must have wanted to sell the quicker. If I see 2 elite's, 1 is for 14k and the other one is for 13.5k, I will obviously buy the one that is for 13.5k. I can make profit this way. The people who are in a hurry to sell things to clear their stocks, mostly sell things for lower prices. The one's who are in no rush to sell, mostly go with the market price or higher.
if it's who I think it is, he's probably selling them with little or no profit in order to mess with someone else who also does the same thing. You just got caught in it (or maybe you were mistaken for that other person).
This is what I do for a living.
Marketing items at what I believe to be a fair price, which tends to undercut other people's idea of "marketing", i.e. "to blatantly rip people off by selling marked up items that were purchased for the sole reason of marking them up."
And I farm these items, in order to bloat their supply, to match their demand. I sell goods to maintain a fair price, and so that the items are always available for the layperson. I did it back when there was mist energy, in the form of alt-ragecrafting (not alt-dragging) and I still do it in various forms to this day.
Merchanters try to be the middleman to milk what the customer is willing to pay, but I am the middleman who milks what the merchanters aren't willing to sell.
You can't sell it that cheap? Your loss. Don't buy it in the first place, if you're not going to use it for yourself.
As developer Daniel Dez said was the driving force of everything inspiring and driving the mechanics for the psychological asymetrical multiplayer game OBEY:
"Systems of power can't be broken or even challenged directly.
They can only be subverted. They can't be destroyed but only changed or made obsolete. And for this to cocur, a condition must be created that makes it impossible for them to function in their old form. Consider the examples: religion, parential jurisdiction, capitalism, bacteria genes, the country you live in, drone warfare, vertebrates.
"Predatory states produce predatory societies: people do not gain wealth and a better quality of life through ways beneficial to the entire country, but get rich by taking advantage of power and privilege, by stealing from state," To survive within such a system, one can either adopt the system as one's own, hide one's behavior, or assume power in some form (to note: even non-violent protest is still an assumption of power and is the reason autocratic regimes commonly target artists and writers). The gameplay mirrors various authoritarian patterns including patronage, secret police, intolerance of dissent, and formally ill-defined yet quite predictable laws, among others."
The "guy" has a right to set his price where he wants it. Maybe he's doing this just to mess with someone, and maybe he's enabled by his use of real-world money, but I don't see any of that as an ethical breach.
Vidimiy has made this thread with the apparent goal of price-fixing. That's strongly frowned-upon in free markets.
Lol i actually made this post to complain and get rid of the anger i had in me XD i am not trying to really fix anything. i just wonder how people think when they put those prices :P
Assuming the market value for energy is 8500cr/100E, 3 elite orbs cost 34000cr. Divided by 3, each elite orb costs around 11300cr.
Selling at 14000 each nets 12600cr each after taking out the 10% AH fee. 12600 - 11300 = 1300cr profit from each orb.
Selling at 13250 each nets 11929cr each after taking out the 10% AH fee. 11929 - 11300 = 629cr profit from each orb.
I believe market value for energy is actually lower than this now though, so profits are higher.
They're still making money and providing a more fair price for those who may only need one or two orbs. Plus, whoever did this has now eliminated (or at least angered) a competitor, which opens the door for better business later on.
The merchant world is ripe with bid wars, snipes, scheming, lowballs, overpricing, and undercutting. Just have to get used to it, don't sweat losing money every now and then.
A tip for making money selling orbs - don't just do elite orbs. Do all types of rarities - advanced orbs sell quick but the profit margin is lower, eternals take a while to sell but you can usually fetch 3-4k profits each. It's good to "diversify your investment portfolio" - sell a wide variety of stuff to reduce risk.
It's because most people aren't buying and selling in large quantities. From that guy's perspective, he sacrifices 750 crowns to increase the chance of selling the orb.
I'd recommend just waiting. The price tends to bounce back, assuming the supply for orbs doesn't go up or the demand doesn't go down.