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Fixing Rarity Recipies

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Thu, 08/06/2015 - 11:33
Pery-Alaois's picture
Pery-Alaois

Most of us want radiant fire crystals to be in all of stratum 6, but then people argue that people won't have enough shining fire crystals. That would happen because knights get fire crystal recipes at the wrong time.

Instead of getting the Fire Crystal Recipe when they need it to heat gear to make the next star of gear, players get the recipe after they go through the Hall of Heroes mission. This is bad, so here's my solution.

Give players the Glowing Fire Crystal recipe on mission 6-2 "Target Aqcuired", instead of mission 7-2 "Darkest Depths"; and give players the Shining Fire Crystal recipe on mission 8-2 "Becoming a Champion" instead of mission 9-1 "Ending in Fire".

This way, players will have the recipes when they need it, so that the system of crafting down fire crystals will actually function well. Also, Radiant Fire Crystals will no longer have to be restricted to dropping in the last two depths, so they can be easier to aqcuire.

A system of crafting down orbs, although suggested before, would be nice.
(3)Flawed Orb of Alchemy Recipe - Recieved on rank 3-1 - Made with 2 Simple Orbs of Alchemy
(3)Simple Orb of Alchemy Recipe - Recieved on rank 4-2 - Made with 2 Advanced Orbs of Alchemy
(3)Advanced Orb of Alchemy Recipe - Recieved on rank 5-2 - Made with 2 Elite Orbs of Alchemy
(3)Elite Orb of Alchemy Recipe - Recieved on rank 6-2 - Made with 2 Eternal Orbs of Alchemy

What do you think of this suggestion?
-Pery

Thu, 08/06/2015 - 12:07
#1
Awsome-Incarnate's picture
Awsome-Incarnate
I agree

This is a good idea.

Thu, 08/06/2015 - 16:31
#2
Holy-Nightmare's picture
Holy-Nightmare
-1

This would flood the market with 2 and 3 star items from people crafting down their Eternal Orb hordes and ragecrafting for UVs.

Thu, 08/06/2015 - 17:01
#3
Corinthmaxwell's picture
Corinthmaxwell
+1

I have far more Eternal Orbs of Alchemy than I'll ever need, I can't trade them to anyone else who might have a use for the ones I won't ever be able to use (because there isn't that much that's actually worth crafting to me), and I need more Advanced & Elite Orbs of Alchemy so that I'll actually be able to use the Eternal Orbs.......yeah, I definitely support this suggestion. >_>

Fri, 08/07/2015 - 09:38
#4
Blandaxt's picture
Blandaxt
Yep!

@OP:

Completely agree with the suggestion. Being able to down craft really helps, and sense there is a fee, it feels balanced.

Fri, 08/07/2015 - 10:33
#5
Fangel's picture
Fangel
Hmm.

Crafting down orbs will be a problem, as Holy-Nightmare said. I have somewhere around 350 eternal orbs of alchemy from just playing the game casually when I wanted to. Meanwhile, I still have to grind for elite orbs in the appropriate strata to get those. If all I needed was eternal orbs to make 4* orbs and whatnot, I would rarely run anything under tier 3 as there's no need for me to try to get lower star orbs. It would be a nice way to use those orbs however...

Fire Crystal recipes should be useful at lower levels, I agree. That would allow Radiants to again drop in all of stratum 6, and without shinings taking up part of the table. Only reason shinings had a problem in the first place is that players who needed shinings didn't run stratum 5, instead running Vanaduke runs with friends or guildmates, and thus not getting shinings despite the very easy ways to get them.

Fri, 08/07/2015 - 11:18
#6
Holy-Nightmare's picture
Holy-Nightmare
@ Fangel

Perhaps one way to limit this is to put a CR cost on downcrafting.

5000: Eternal downcraft
2500: Elite downcraft
1000: Advanced downcraft
400: Simple downcraft

Fri, 08/07/2015 - 12:53
#7
Vohtarak-Forum's picture
Vohtarak-Forum
I like it

add a cr price though, holys idea seems to work
sure ragecrafts would flood the market but that will die down quickly when people run down their eternal stockpiles

p.s. radiants in all of stratum 6 would not make shinings hard to get, even without the rest of this idea

Fri, 08/07/2015 - 20:43
#8
Hexzyle's picture
Hexzyle

This would flood the market with 2 and 3 star items from people crafting down their Eternal Orb hordes and ragecrafting for UVs.

How is this bad? When this was a thing, I don't ever recall anyone ever complaining that 2 and 3 star equipment, and UVs were too cheap.

Sat, 08/08/2015 - 06:03
#9
Holy-Nightmare's picture
Holy-Nightmare
@ Hexzyle

Because I don't want to have to scroll through 5 pages of brandishes on the AH.

In all seriousness I don't think it's bad, I just don't want it to happen all at once. A CR fee for downcrafting would slow the crafters down a bit making the flow into the market more steady and less of a flood.

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