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Hired knights and Rented weapons

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Mon, 08/24/2015 - 00:42

Trymal

So, pretty much, hiring weapons, or hiring knights.
Only temporarily, and the more you pay, the better the stuff is.
The weapons would be like:

Rusty rented blade (0*)
Rented blade (1*)
Decent rented blade (2*)
Lucky rented blade (3*)
Good rented blade (4*)
Extreme rented blade (5*)

Weak rented gun (0*)
Rented gun (1*)
Decent rented gun (2*)
Lucky rented gun (3*)
Good rented gun (4*)
Extreme rented gun (5*)

Small rented bomb (0*)
Rented bomb (1*)
Decent rented bomb (2*)
Lucky rented bomb (3*)
Good rented bomb (4*)
Extreme rented bomb (5*)

Inexperienced hired knight (0*)
Hired knight (1*)
Decent hired knight (2*)
Lucky hired knight (3*)
Good hired knight (4*)
Extreme hired knight (5*)

The knights have Cobalt stuff depending on the star. The availability of the knights/weapons are like normal ones. So, hypothetically, you could have the Inexperienced knight on King of Ashes, with the Small rented bomb. It would just be a very, very bad idea. They only last one mission, but you could just hire/rent them on the next one again.
The knights would act like normal rescued NPCs.

So, all feedback is appreciated, as long as it is polite, and consists of no swearing.
Trymal

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 08:05

Holy-Nightmare

Interesting Idea

Would be interesting.

As a Side note the weapons should be of the Cutter, Antigua, and DBB lines or of that sort. Knockback should be negligible so that hired knights won't knock enemies into allies. All of them should be normal damage though to maximize effectiveness.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 13:36

Trymal

@Holy-Nightmare

Thanks for the feedback! All the knights only have one weapon, so you get to choose what that class is. (Bomb, sword or gun.) And you cannot get a 5* weapon if you are only 1*, and same goes for hired knights. And I was thinking all rented weapons would do normal damage, and anyone who is willing to do a pixel art, that would be welcome!
But, thanks for feedback! I was not fully expecting a yes!!! So this makes me happy! (-:

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 16:34

Falminar

The knights would act like normal rescued NPCs.

Normal rescued NPCs are unkillable.

If "killed" they just sit down, then get back up later and continue fighting.

I easily completed the third floor of "The Great Escape" without attacking once - The knights did everything for me.

These should be killed permanently (well, lets say they just return to Haven after dying), or be able to get up only once (emergency revive). Otherwise players could do just that, and win without really doing anything

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 03:19

Trymal

Good point, he'll have emergency revive, thats it.
Trymal

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 10:19

Fangel

Eh.

Normal rescued NPCs are unkillable.

If "killed" they just sit down, then get back up later and continue fighting.
To "revive" them you have to kill an enemy near them. This does include lesser things, such as a howlitzer head.

I will say though that under the current system, these sort of things wouldn't be so OP that could just hire them and sit back. You'd have to pay a fair amount to get 2 5* knights to help you through vanaduke, and if they both go down at any point you'll have to stop dodging and attack enemies to revive them.

It's not a bad idea, but the NPCs are not designed to be in every level. They would get stuck, fall down, and not help the party. Better to have a full party of 4 than to spend money on an NPC knight.

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 15:09

Trymal

@Fangel

But what if you cannot get a full party??

Wed, 08/26/2015 - 10:33

Fangel

Ask for help.

In Haven, you can ask other knights to help you with a mission. Many knights of higher ranks like to do missions again and will help you.

There will always be other knights of your own rank who need to do missions. Try joining one instead of starting one.

Bottom line is that a party of 4 is free and effective, and a party of 1 + 3 hired knights is going to be ineffective and expensive, and you likely won't make back the money you spend on them except for very early on.

Sat, 08/29/2015 - 21:17

Trymal

OK. But what if no one wants to join? I still think you should be able to hire knights and weapons.
Trymal

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 23:58

Trymal

weapons at least.

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