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Community weapon ratings - Swords (voting finished)

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Fri, 09/04/2015 - 06:43
#51
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Fehzor

Bombs should be more important. If the devs are still developing this game (I think they are but Rise of Knights and..) then they could use your data to possibly tweak the bomber/swordy update that probably doesn't exist and is just speculation.

Fri, 09/04/2015 - 06:44
#52
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Krakob

I do agree that guns are a bit more complex. Given the large amount of guns added by the gunner update and the very slow change in PvE metagame towards powerhouse guns (Magnuses, Autoguns), I feel like most people would make poor ratings. Nevertheless, I don't wanna delay it more than necessary so let's get things out of the way.

The only thing I feel like we should change from the current model is perhaps the amount of required guns. Given that there are a lot of plain reskins now (Blasters, Gilded Griffin, Grim Repeater; not counting Winter Grave because it's quite different), maybe we should exclude those from the amount of guns required to vote. That is, if there are 31 guns in total, the amount of guns required to vote would be 10 or 11 using the current model but it might be fair to exclude the plain reskins introduced in the gunner update making the total amount of guns something like 25 and the required amount to vote 8 or 9.

Of course, we'd still be rating the reskins.

Fri, 09/04/2015 - 07:04
#53
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Fehzor

It's a fair assessment but I'd still like for people to have some gunner update guns. It's one thing to look onto them and another to actually use them- the specialized blasters being a prime example. It's easy to discard them as being lesser than the alchemers and other guns, but having those 3 shots as nothing more than a utility makes them quite versatile- a four rather than a two, if I might.

Perhaps we could require a number of GU guns + one to two from each line? Like 4 GU guns + at least 1 from each line. Not that I wish to dominate the rules, of course.

And regarding Skepticraven- I really do hope that he ends up doing a more realistic rating type thing+verifying, since he DOES have the fundamentally correct idea (or fundamentally similar to mine, since nothing is ever quite true) regarding sword balance, and such a perspective is in fact quite rare to this thread.

Fri, 09/04/2015 - 08:57
#54
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Krakob

I think that's a very good point. Judging a weapon does often require you to use it yourself so that you can compare your experience with it to your experience with other weapons, so that you don't compare statistics or other people's opinions to your experience with other weapons.

How should we define a GU gun? Just new ones? Some have changed quite drastically (Catalyzers, Magnuses) and are basically new weapons now. I do agree that maybe even requiring some GU guns is a good idea but 4 would perhaps be a bit excessive if we are to count only newly added weapons.

Fri, 09/04/2015 - 11:52
#55
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Fangel
Just include the weapon types

I'd say you need to have ownership of a gun of each specialized damage type from the gunner update, then 8 - 10 in your inventory to vote.

For example, riftlocker plays very differently from callahan, but phantomos and winters grave actually play rather similarly (sans charge attacks). So, if you have to have at least 3 weapons from the gunner update, but it can't just be phantomos permafroster and grim repeater.

Fri, 09/04/2015 - 12:35
#56
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Klipik-Forum
So how long before you tally the votes?

Acheron: 5
Barbarous Thorn Blade: 4
Cold Iron Vanquisher: 2
Combuster: 5
Divine Avenger: 3
Dread Venom Striker: 3
Fang of Vog: 2
Fearless Rigadoon: 3
Final Flourish: 4
Furious Flamberge: 3
Glacius: 4
Gran Faust: 4
Leviathan Blade: 3
Obsidian Edge: 4
Sudaruska: 3
Triglav: 2
Voltedge: 5
Warmaster Rocket Hammer: 4
Wild Hunting Blade: 2
Faust (4*): 3
Winmillion: 2

Verification

Fri, 09/04/2015 - 13:08
#57
Krakob's picture
Krakob

I'll count the votes sometime during monday.

Fri, 09/04/2015 - 16:22
#58
Falminar's picture
Falminar
Wait,

Shouldn't this be in The Arsenal?

(Not voting, my only 5* item is a Volcanic Pepperbox)

Sat, 09/05/2015 - 01:51
#59
Krakob's picture
Krakob

Shh, don't tell Eury! I just wanted the thread to get more attention.

Mon, 09/07/2015 - 03:49
#60
Krakob's picture
Krakob

The results are in!

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