http://puu.sh/ljQjl.png
come on, at least disable the option to turn the chat filter off if you're going to penalize people for using it anyway
I would have no problem with this if I actually "circumvented" anything, but all I did was uncheck a box in a built in game menu
they're called "options" for a reason
I would like some feedback from someone who matters but that would be optimistic to the point of foolishness
really now
Fri, 11/13/2015 - 02:53
Fri, 11/13/2015 - 03:36
#2
^ this is false
I've been banned twice in the past for "circumventing" the chat filter.
It made no more sense then than it does now. If you're going to penalize people for using a feature in your game then the smart thing to do is remove the feature, otherwise you're just baiting people into banning themselves.
Fri, 11/13/2015 - 04:35
#3
algorithms are the solutions to any problem.
why are you circumventing the chat filter exactly? you can turn your off and think that everyone has.
Fri, 11/13/2015 - 15:44
#4
Depends
Circumventing the chat filter means more that you're trying to get around the filter by spelling swears out, using similar words, etc for the same context as the swear word.
If you're just straight up swearing then it's really no problem. If you're being hostile towards someone and you're swearing at them venomously, then if they report you it's more because you were being vicious than it was that you were swearing.
Swearing isn't frowned upon, but swearing at people and trying to get around the filter is frowned upon. If you didn't mean to go around the filter, that's its own problem (swearing in a unique way for a situation and going around the filter that way).
If you don't know what remark caused the issue you can always ask. :)
Fri, 11/13/2015 - 15:54
#5
↓
You keep using the word "circumvented".
I don't think it means what you think it means.
Fri, 11/13/2015 - 16:11
#6
:/
Why try to sneak in crude words into chat when you can stab them wide open with word shivs? Words are given power by their speaker, not by themselves.
Fri, 11/13/2015 - 19:09
#7
Pretty sure that means you're misspelling filtered words.
(I think) The warning means you're misspelling (e.g. exampel), putting spaces between letters in (e.g. e x a m p l e), or doing something else to the filtered words that makes the chat filter not recognize the word (and so, not filter the word). Make sure the filter recognizes the word and you shouldn't have that problem.
Fri, 11/13/2015 - 21:56
#8
Assuming your were trying to call someone a knucklehead, and the word "knucklehead" was filtered, then "circumventing the chat filter" refers to typing out something like:
knuckl3h34d
knu ckleh ead
sonic and knuckleshead
Fri, 11/13/2015 - 22:18
#9
You can always put in a support ticket asking what your offense was and try to appeal the whole thing.
Sat, 11/14/2015 - 09:04
#10
@OP
Just my opinion, but I
@OP
Just my opinion, but I think that if OOO puts more effort into banning people for "circumventing the chat filter" than developing new content, then it's time to ditch this mess and find a new game
Sat, 11/14/2015 - 14:38
#11
Um.
Just my opinion, but I think that if OOO puts more effort into banning people for "circumventing the chat filter" than developing new content, then it's time to ditch this mess and find a new game
Except the developers aren't the ones moderating the game, the Game Masters are.
We only have a handful of developers but we have at least a dozen Game Masters working around the clock to help us with problems in game, and enforcing the terms of service.
Sat, 11/14/2015 - 15:52
#12
We should have the GMs develop content too. Even if they have no idea how to, aren't in house at all and would have to spend forever learning to code, I'd rather they do that than assist people that are stuck or enforce rules. Since the GMs are the ones that have read our suggestions, they'd even know more about what we're looking for when it comes to balance. Logic is flawless.
Mon, 11/16/2015 - 09:17
#13
....
Before convicting a player of breaking the rules you should present them with the incriminating evidence.
If Vishno did circumvent the chat filter by altering their typed words then OOO should have no problem bringing it up and reminding him exactly what he said.
If Vishno is being penalized for using a feature in the game accessible to all players then OOO is in the wrong and should just remove that feature or at least make it inaccessible to players.
Tue, 11/17/2015 - 22:27
#14
aaaa
I don't think you understand, I didn't circumvent anything. The way the chat filter works is, if it's on, common swear words like rust bucket and stinky clams get filtered to %#$@. When you turn it off, you can say those words fine. Certain words like the N words are perma filtered, you cannot post those without actually circumventing the chat filter. The only thing that I did was post laughing my bucket off a few times in lockdown. I didn't misspell or space these words to avoid the filter. If I had tried those words then the message would have been deleted, and I would have had to start a new message with the filter evasion in place. I have never done this.
I don't care that I was warned, I think it's a good thing to be reminded that there are children on this game who haven't been exposed to that side of the world yet. The only thing I take issue with is using an in game feature - turning off the chat filter - to post swear words, and not swears directed at anyone in particular, mind you, just "laughing my bucket off". And then getting warned because I avoided a filter by using the in game method of avoiding the filter? It just doesn't seem right. Like I said before, it seems to be literally just bait for people to turn off the filter and then swear and get banned.
It doesn't matter anyway, nothing will be addressed by anyone who matters, also like I said before.
Wed, 11/18/2015 - 10:45
#15
12 hours....
12 hours and no forum GM has edited Vishno's post.......
Y'all awake or do you not care?
Wed, 11/18/2015 - 11:05
#16
I'm a Wizard
I think theres supposed to be a filter for profanity received, but then again, the comicify thing looked cool to me.
Hmm... I think I grammar'd that wrong.
Wed, 11/18/2015 - 11:36
#17
Ah.
Well if someone reported you for using a word that is filtered, and you weren't using said words against anyone, then it likely was just someone being salty and reporting you for any reason they could find. GMs just do their duty and issue a warning - if it counts against your account then that's kind of scummy, but otherwise it's nothing to get worried about.
I would still ask them if you did, by chance, bypass the filter on accident. I know some people will misspell swears for comedy's sake, but usually that's in private chats or across other chat services.
I will say to try to keep your forum posts entirely clean - there is no chat filter on the forums. Maybe it was something here? It does affect your in-game account.
Wed, 11/18/2015 - 12:01
#18
Filter is annoying
The thing I hate most about the filter is that it prevents you from putting some words in the guild message. You can't spell butterfly because it has the word butt in it. If you try to press "b" after "but" it doesnt do anything, tried copy pasting and other stuff too lol. If the filter list is that long they could also add a list of unfiltered words with filtered parts in them...
Wed, 11/18/2015 - 14:47
#19
Remember, don't shoot food.
They didn't change the words to silly things like [Delicious Meatballs].
You disappoint me Aphro (assuming that's who censored it, if it wasn't Aphro, then I'm still disappointed in you Aphro).
Wed, 11/18/2015 - 15:15
#20
:(
(I fixed it)
:)
Wed, 11/18/2015 - 15:35
#21
omg
aphro you might need to get those added to the actual filter because both of those are being added to my personal swear vocabulary, right next to smarmywup and rubbish bug.
Wed, 11/18/2015 - 15:35
#22
I'm a Wizard
Isnt 'rust bucket' and 'stinky clams' 10 and 11 letters respectively, then they get shortened to 4?
Wed, 11/18/2015 - 15:41
#23
Its magic.
Its magic.
Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:52
#24
Magic is just applied science.
Don't make me drag Hahn in here from his Biotech position.
Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:58
#25
Remember, don't shoot food.
Well then...
Now I'm only 95% disappointed in you.
Post pictures of as many SK characters as you can twerking like Bosco and we'll look into reducing that to 90% disappointment.
Thu, 11/19/2015 - 09:03
#26
Thu, 11/19/2015 - 10:31
#27
.
"post pictures of as many SK characters as you can twerking like Bosco"
is nothing sacred
Thu, 11/19/2015 - 12:21
#28
um
Post pictures of as many SK characters as you can twerking like Bosco
brb gonna find njthug and make him twerk for this thread
Thu, 11/19/2015 - 15:12
#29
Remember, don't shoot food.
Oh unusually large flounders! How did you know that I'm weak to dragon kicks, much less a WICKED dragon kick. This attack cannot go unanswered, and luckily I have a card right here to counter your kick. GO MY SEVEN OF SPADES.
...Wait, isn't it too late to counter it now?
Thu, 11/19/2015 - 23:17
#30
u nasty trorr, ding dong bannu
http://puu.sh/ls0gj.png
So this is how it's going to be? I ask a question, you reprimand me for how I word it, and don't even answer? We're not even going to be adults about this? If this is the level of quality I can expect, then see you later. Maybe the next time I think of playing this game again, it will be put out of it's misery, prize boxes and all, and I'll be spared the trouble. Well I was right about one thing. Nobody who mattered even replied.
Fri, 11/20/2015 - 08:33
#31
As has been posted in this
As has been posted in this thread, you should contact support if you are unsure what you did to violate the rules of the game. Per our privacy policy, we do not discuss the details of an individual account on the forums.
Fri, 11/20/2015 - 14:54
#32
missing the point dude
Did you not even read the thread? I know exactly what I did, and I don't care about it. What I wanted to know was why it happened, and what the point of allowing your players to disable a filter and then punishing them for it was. If you're just going to fall back on "muh policy", then what is even the point of having a nuanced discussion on the forums or with "support"? You might as well head all your posts with "I am just a figurehead and have no power, please don't ask me for anything even remotely useful."
Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:07
#33
I reviewed your support history, and you were not given that warning for turning off your chat filter or saying "Laughing my bucket off". As I said, I'm not allowed to reveal the details of a player's account, but you are not remembering correctly, which is why I recommend you contact support. They can discuss in detail with you why you were warned, so you can avoid that in the future.
A note about the chat filter. When you have it on or off, it affects how the chat displays on your screen. It doesn't affect how other players see the chat you type.
For example:
Eurydice can type out "Rust Bucket!"
If I have the filter on, it will turn into "%#!@"
If i have the filter off, it will show "Rust Bucket!"
If Eurydice types out "Ru$t Buck3t!", our filter won't catch that, and she'll get a warning from the GM onduty for circumventing the chat filter.
It doesn't matter if Eury has her filter turned on or off.
Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:27
#34
are these the facts?
Edit: I wrote the stuff below before seeing Aphrodite's post above. But notice that points 1 and 3 turn out to be highly relevant.
Let me see whether I have the facts straight:
- The chat filter prevents you from saying a few highly offensive words. For all other words, it does not alter what you say at all. Rather, it just alters what I hear you say, if I'm a person with my chat filter on.
- You repeatedly used the word represented by the third letter in the acronym LMAO. This is a very mild obscenity (acceptable on primetime broadcast television in the USA, for example). But Three Rings apparently doesn't like it.
- You have not actually contacted support about this incident. You're assuming that the previous item is the reason for your reprimand, because you can't imagine any other reason.
- The Terms at the bottom of this page include the statement, "While there is a chat filter present in the game, this does not excuse offensive language or behavior." To me this means that you are not supposed to rely on the chat filter to clean up your language. You are expected to use clean language in the first place.
(Note: I am not endorsing Three Rings' policy. I'm just trying to understand what is happening.)
Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:51
#35
getting real salty over here
Let me put it in layman's terms
I don't care about getting around the filter.
I don't care about what I said.
I only care about the fact that it's possible to turn off the filter and get punished for it.
Does that not seem like the most counter intuitive thing in the world to you? Do we live on the same planet?
Furthermore, if what you say is true, then if I turn of MY filter, say some regularly filtered word, and someone else who could potentially get offended by my words DIDN'T turn THEIR filter off, then it should actually filter out on their screen, no harm done.
But no, you're content to stick to my offense or whatever it is you're doing, while avoiding the actual point entirely.
Edit: Let me address one more thing.
"While there is a chat filter present in the game, this does not excuse offensive language or behavior."
Then I reiterate, WHAT, I ask you, what is the actual literal factual point of allowing your players to disable the filter in the first place. It seems to me that the only thing it does is leads to situations like these. If the filter was not optional, then my words would have been filtered to something completely innocuous, and we all would have been saved the time it took to post in this terrible, pointless thread.
I thought about it, and I really just want to save other players the trouble of going through this in the future. Although I know GMs are just enforcers and really can't alter the options in a game, it still irks me to no end that a developer thought it was a good idea to add an option to disable something that the ToS prohibits anyway.
Fri, 11/20/2015 - 16:02
#36
It's not against the rules to
It's not against the rules to turn off your chat filter. I might not have made that clear before, but there it is.
Fri, 11/20/2015 - 16:10
#37
good luck
Edit: Aphrodite is always beating me while I agonize over wording.
Anyway, good luck with whatever the actual offense is. :)
Fri, 11/20/2015 - 16:14
#38
@Bopp
♥
Fri, 11/20/2015 - 16:36
#39
last post, bye
What is reading comprehension? I never implied it was. Certainly it's not against the rules to disable the filter. But if you choose to engage the activity that disabling the filter allows, then you get punished. Or are you going to sit there and tell me that you can swear all you want in game, as long as it's not directed at anyone or intended to be hurtful? Give me a break. I know you don't have an adequate answer so I'll stop addressing you, but if anyone with the means to actually rectify this happens to be reading, I implore you to do so.
Who am I kidding, sega doesn't give an overcooked sausage about this.
Thanks for taking the time anyway, I do appreciate your answers. It's just sad to see that they reaffirm what I already knew, and chose to ignore
Fri, 11/20/2015 - 17:02
#40
Um.
Pardon me, but my two crowns are that you contact the OOO team, ask what you actually did wrong, then continue.
Perhaps you didn't do wrong what you thought you did wrong.
I don't know.
Fri, 11/20/2015 - 17:04
#41
what even.
Okay, in your words, "What is reading comprehension?"
Seriously. Aphrodite has mentioned that Three Rings' Support will talk to you about your personal incident without making a public deal out of it. In doing so, they are not contributing to any additional quotes or swears that may have gotten you a warning in the first place on the forums. Heck, swearing on the forums is forbidden, and that's why you got that second warning.
It's not against the rules to swear. It's not against the rules to use the swear filter. It is against the rules to swear in such a way that it tricks the filter, whether you meant to or not.
The thread started, likely, with an incident where you swore outside of the filter's radius. Maybe you didn't mean to, maybe you didn't know it wasn't filtered, maybe you knew both of these but have gotten away with it before... Bottom line is that warning are given by the staff, not an automated system (as far as I know), so they have looked into the phrase you said and figured it was worth a warning. You'll get a better understanding of why you got the warning if you would go through their support portal and ask about it. After you do this, you'll be on a more equal level of understanding instead of being up against the system because you don't know why the system is issuing a warning to you.
Three Rings' staff doesn't want to talk about your incident on the forums because you might want to keep what you said private. If you talk to them in private and don't like the answer, then feel free to bring evidence here and we'll see about grabbing pitchforks. As of now though, you stand alone in your anger.
Fri, 11/20/2015 - 18:16
#42
Another reason
that the all powerful three onion rings wish not speak of though on these lowly forums are because your words are too abhorent to be exclaimed among the general public:
Translate:
OOO no speaky speaky because words too bad to use in forum with 3 year olds!
Chat filter list is long, very very long. It happens every now and then, it's just a little warning, it won't have any consequence on your account, so nothing to worry about there!