Spiral Knights - Fire Stratum, Radiant Crystals

Fire Stratum, Radiant Crystals

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Fri, 11/27/2015 - 13:55

Coolid

I can't be the only one who has noticed the lack of Fire Stratum outside of the Firestorm Citadel levels in the Arcade. I have never seen a fire retrode outside of the "High Temperature Hostages" mission. Has anyone else noticed this?

Another issue is that RADIANTS ONLY APPEAR LATE TIER 3. NO SHADOW LAIRS, NO DANGER ZONES. ONLY LATE TIER 3.
ONLY. All of the radiants I had collected before shining drop rates were increased were set to my Glacius. Everything else is at level 1 because I havent had the time or skill to venture that low in the Clockworks.

Fri, 11/27/2015 - 14:23

Bopp

well

Yes, Radiants appear only in depths 25 and deeper (and only rarely on depth 25). You can argue that Radiants should be more common. In fact, we have had literally hundreds of threads on exactly that topic. For example, currently the fourth thread on the front page of General Discussion is about that complaint.

The stratum themes are kind of weird these days. I think that the developers haven't really figured out a good mix, ever since they got rid of the old system (where players deposited minerals to influence gate construction). But there have definitely been fire-themed non-FSC strata.

Fri, 11/27/2015 - 16:09

Midnight-Dj

Pessimism level restored

Yes, Radiants appear only in depths 25 and deeper (and only rarely on depth 25)

I think that the developers haven't really figured out a good mix,

Yet I can find eternal orbs 3 levels before any radiants, this does not happen to any of the 4*,3*,2* and 1* gears where you can find the orbs in pretty much the same level where you would find the respective heat crystals.

Fri, 11/27/2015 - 18:16

Bopp

right

This thread is about two unrelated topics. The two pieces of text that you have quoted concern two separate topics, but you are presenting them as if they concern a single topic.

I am not here to defend the scarcity of Radiants.

Fri, 11/27/2015 - 21:16

Skepticraven

↓

From the words of Midnight-Dj:
"Yet I can find any of the 4*,3*,2* and 1* gears where you can find the orbs."

Look, I can misquote too!

Fri, 11/27/2015 - 22:47

Coolid

on topic

stick to the topic at hand guys

anyways, the recent Copper Lion gate has the 2nd stratum be fire, so i guess my statement is invalid?
i think radiants should be as common in stratum 6 as shinings are in stratum 5

Fri, 11/27/2015 - 23:10

Traevelliath

Another issue is that RADIANTS ONLY APPEAR LATE TIER 3. NO SHADOW LAIRS, NO DANGER ZONES. ONLY LATE TIER 3.

I just want to say, Shadow Lairs are a great (albeit not very profitable) way to get radiants. Danger Rooms can also provide radiants if they're deep enough. I've even found radiants at the end of Danger Missions.

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 01:49

Midnight-Dj

@skeptic

How much data did you use to come up with that?

@Bopp

As far as the stratum is concerned, it is entirely random, fire themed level comes around and goes around, there seems to be little reason complain about that. And besides, shadow prestige missions almost always have fire theme on the second level, so yeah.

But still, as regard to the second complain, I think my argument still stand.

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 07:15

Bopp

Midnight-Dj

Yes, it is reasonable to assume that the strata are simply random. But I have seen some pretty improbable combinations. Of course, improbable combinations should come up sometimes, but only rarely. If I cared more, I would collect data to show that the randomization is not working well. Probably I would fail.

And you're right that it makes sense to have orbs and fire crystals found together.

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 17:14

Fehzor

Thread gave me a chuckle. It had a direction and then was like 'by the way, has anyone noticed that radiant fire crystals are awful?', swiftly slamming on the local hot button as hard as possible.

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