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Mon, 02/08/2016 - 21:19
Most-Wanted-Guy's picture
Most-Wanted-Guy

I have been farming black kats for hours all I get is 3kats per 13 round and I still got no book(been doing it for days) i spent my last 200k on my GF for UVs and I get **** I used my radiants to heat my weapons and still fail I did bad in LD and I'm feeling a bit depressed is the game against me or something?

Mon, 02/08/2016 - 23:55
#1
Traevelliath's picture
Traevelliath

To be fair, the chance of a Black Kat is ~1% per Kat, while the chance of a book is ~0.5% per Black Kat.

Or as someone else put it...

Mon, 02/08/2016 - 22:24
#2
Most-Wanted-Guy's picture
Most-Wanted-Guy
:(

You had successfully made me more depressed and sad
Can anyone find my hope back?

Tue, 02/09/2016 - 00:08
#3
Abelisk's picture
Abelisk
~1.24% chance for a Black Kat

~1.24% chance for a Black Kat to spawn in any Kat
~1.02% chance of a Book of Dark Rituals dropping from any Black Kat
~32.1% chance of Black Kat spawning per run
~0.29% chance of Book of Dark Rituals dropping per run.

~94.26% chance of guaranteed Book of Dark Rituals after approximately 300 runs or 100 Black Kats.

Tue, 02/09/2016 - 00:34
#4
Hexzyle's picture
Hexzyle

~94.26% chance of at least one Book of Dark Rituals after approximately 300 runs or 100 Black Kats.

FTFY

Tue, 02/09/2016 - 04:41
#5
Uberer-Alt's picture
Uberer-Alt
I know ppl with even worse

I know ppl with even worse luck with the book, but I just found my first after about 940 kats. The probability of that is insanely low. Assuming it's 1% the likelihood of killing 940 kats without getting a book is about 0.008%. I believe the drop rate is lower than before whiskers were added, but most of the kats I've killed were during earlier events.

Also, spending 200k on rolling is nothing. You shouldn't expect to get anything good for it. Here's a a pretty good page if you want to know the expected costs of different UVs: http://wiki.spiralknights.com/User:Jdavis/UVs

Tue, 02/09/2016 - 11:28
#6
Flowchart's picture
Flowchart

At least the price of invites has dropped to 4-4.5k ce.
That's still about 400k crowns though.

Tue, 02/09/2016 - 12:04
#7
Traevelliath's picture
Traevelliath

"You had successfully made me more depressed and sad
Can anyone find my hope back?
"

Here's a gif of a puppy trying to eat an ice cube. I hope it helps <3
You can watch it while listening to Eye of the Tiger.

Tue, 02/09/2016 - 13:51
#8
Fehzor's picture
Fehzor

Woah now, 1% chance of a book? The odds are more likely closer to 1/3 of a percent according to Cheshireccat, or optimistically a smidgeon over 1/2 of a percent at most.

If I had to guess? .42%, since devs like that number and it's arbitrary.

As for the odds of a kat becoming a black kat? Well that's more complicated, but the same thread mentioned above did find about 1/4 chance of finding a black kat per level, and that's perhaps more useful. If you're exactly average (which would be rare but most likely) you'd expect to find one after between 200 and 500 kats, or 800 and 2,000 levels ran through.

When I say "have they fixed the event yet" I'm not making some kind of cruel joke; the event is dysfunctional, stressful and unfun. These things are opinions, but opinions that have been thought through a great deal and backed up by many observations.

Tue, 02/09/2016 - 14:37
#9
Fangel's picture
Fangel
Oh golly wiz

Started the event with around 1248 ancient pages.
Since I have pretty much no life that number is now 1,744, however I spent 50 on a fetish, bringing my farmed value up to 1794.
So far I have made 546 ancient pages this event.

Now if we take into account the daily prestiges, that is about 24 pages not from black kats. This means I have encountered roughly 174 randomly-spawning black kats this event.
Assuming black kats are spawning in once every four runs, I have run through at least 696 candlestick keeps (outside of one black kat I found in legion of almire - that was interesting)
No book has dropped for me this event so far, but statistically, should soon.

For all y'all calling it quits after like, 20 runs, that's why you don't have a book. Now in the past I've gotten 3 books of dark rituals total, and statistically I should find one soon, but statistics take an average, so you've got people who find a book on their second run (still jelly of you machi), and you've got people who have never had a book after 3000 runs.

Still waiting on one of these wonderful ideas to make it into the game. This is the only event I can actually classify as "anti-fun", despite me enjoying myself for the duration of these events regardless - but that's because I'm incredibly boring. Not many people are like me in that I find mindless tasks that make a number go up satisfying - most people find that mind-numbingly boring, repetitive, and unfun.

Tue, 02/09/2016 - 15:10
#10
Fehzor's picture
Fehzor

"No book has dropped for me this event so far, but statistically, should soon."

I believe we've been over this before, but that isn't how that works. Lets say you expect to find a book after 600 kats and have found 400 kats but no book- finding the next 200 will give you the same chance as you had when you first found 200, not the full effect of the 600. To get the full effect of the 600, you'd have to find 600 more kats.

Tue, 02/09/2016 - 17:09
#11
Fangel's picture
Fangel
Well yeah

For sure killing 200 kats won't net me a book of dark rituals. I understand how the system works, but assuming that it's a 0.5% chance of a book, that's a 1/200 chance for a book.

Post context is pretty heavy there. I go on to say that it can be one kat for a book or several thousand and still no book. Doesn't change statistics, but statistics aren't a progress bar, despite this event heavily needing to have a progress bar to be worthwhile.

Sun, 02/14/2016 - 12:07
#12
Logiicube's picture
Logiicube
I'm very lucky

I got the book very early and I'm happy about it.... Even after getting the book, i tried to get the book for you Most-wanted-knight but i didnt get... :( i feel bad for you bro.. I hope you get it soon..

Sun, 02/14/2016 - 12:10
#13
Logiicube's picture
Logiicube
I'm very lucky

I found the book after about 4-5 cats.....

Mon, 02/15/2016 - 04:53
#14
Azurestratos's picture
Azurestratos
@Logt You ate sausages n

@Logt

You ate sausages n cheese while bragging it in the chats, and now you got a book after only a few cats....

(ノಥ益ಥ)ノ ┻━┻

Mon, 02/15/2016 - 11:55
#15
Logiicube's picture
Logiicube
lol

I got the book when the event started.. Anyways did i make u feel hungry? XD lol

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