Lol if the below post is true. Guess they really want the whales to spend.

Anyone can confirm this "New gun" its entirely a new gun and not a reskin?

if it a reskin which gun then?

Ooops i just forgot some information about it :
the orbital gun is a elemental + fire mixmaster.

I was told that the one who unboxed the new gun used 50 boxs. So it was like 2% for him :) Lucky dawg ^^

They should just bring back the old system, when you bought energy with real money and got promo boxes in addition. It would be great for the game in my opinion. And even possibly would be more income for the company, cuz i honestly think there would be more people to spend money that way. Even if it would mean that the 2 separated things are combined.

Is the mixmaster and variants going to be the "reskin for promos" thing now?

If so that makes me very sad. Not looking forwards to the mixmaster/orbitgun switchshooting max UV'd black kat strikers in lockdown, meanwhile 99.9% of the population will never even be able to see if the weapon is something that they could try out and utilize.

If we could see a 4* or 5* branching crafting path off of the pulsar line that would be very much appreciated. I have a small list of things that make me disappointed in their designs, and the equinox promo just got its third or fourth tally mark...

If they implemented a regular version, I'd base it on the Catalyzer. I'm guessing they won't though, what with no devs and the existing one shooting through damn walls.

First unboxing: 1-UV ticket..
Second unboxing: (to be edited)

Original mixmaster was alright in its box, just was annoying that it was in a box.

This mixmaster is in a box that is already disliked, and at a very low percent chance of actually getting it.
I would have less of an issue with it if the 1UV ticket didn't exist, as you can get 1,600 energy and get something like 8 1UV rolls from the energy market.

UV tickets in boxes to fill space is okay if the box is bundled with energy. Not okay when you're paying $5 for a 43% chance to literally lose money that has a predetermined in-game price. If we could get 8 1UV tickets from a box, 4 2UV tickets, or 2 3UV tickets instead of one of each, you can bet that I'd buy into this promo. That's a lot of rolling, and I'm also getting a chance at the costumes too.

Okay let's do some math here:

Each standalone box costs $5 to purchase. However there is the premium currency of energy also in the game, which has a $5 value as well. For $5 you can either buy an equinox box and have a 46% chance to get a 20k crown value back, or you could buy 1,600 energy, which you can convert in the energy market's current prices for over 160k crowns (100 energy = 10k crowns).

This means that the 1UV ticket and the 2UV ticket are effectively rip-offs for their price, as you literally will get less money from the boxes than you will the items in it. The only UV ticket that is worthwhile is the 3UV ticket, being at 225k crowns.

This means you have staggering 70% chance to be ripped off with each purchase.

Individual accessories however do not have an in-game price that is static or constant. As such, a celestial bolted vee could be worth 160,000 crowns to someone, and no less than 5,000 crowns to another. These prices are set by the players. UV tickets prices are set by Three Rings, and so are the box prices.

Individual costumes and accessories are desirable on a per-player basis. However no matter what, UV tickets are going to cost a static amount, and if you try to sell your UV tickets, you will have to price them for even less money to actually sell them.

Because of these reasons I believe the equinox and its sister promo solstice need to be energy bundled promos. As energy bundles you're getting a bonus on top of your energy, which can be anything from a 20k crown UV bonus to a 3m new weapon bonus. Since you have energy you were not ripped off even if you get the 1UV ticket, and can use said energy to get crowns for even more tickets if that's why you're buying them anyways.

Okay so i think you didnt understand me. Im not talking about celestial stuff. Or if the "realmoney boxs" are ripoffs or not (of course they are, but all of them as a whole). I am talking about the worst case scenario of recolored boxs of the last 10 months or so and all the similar ones _versus_ this box promo.

For example: you buy 15 verdant boxs. You open them one after another. You get : 1 culet , 2 pith helms , 2 brigandines , 1 more pith helm , 1 scale mail , 3 draped armors, 1 sallet , 2 round helms , and 2 cuirasses. So basically pretty much the worst you can imagine.
How is that unboxing worths like even the half of 15 1x ticket? Which you can use or resell for like 18kcr each.

You can say a lot of things mate, but you cant be serious about selling these stuffs and getting more out of it than like 5k each. And i was really generous with that 5k. In reality people actually unboxed those things and just gave them randomly away immediately for free.

And 1 more thing that i think you did not realise, so i'll repeat myself. I see much more people buy these boxes than any of the gem promos, and its only day 2. I dont know why is that, but thats how it is.

Also
Because of these reasons I believe the equinox and its sister promo solstice need to be energy bundled promos.
post #17 :)

Costumes dont have exact prices cuz players sell them to players. They dont have that but they have an overall estimated price range. And you know that. And you also know that all of the costumes i listed in post #29 wont get sold nearly at 18kcr but a 1x ticket will. Those items have like 0-5kcr price range. Your mentioned items are far away from any worst case scenario of unboxing. :)

I actually understood your reasoning all along in these several posts. I just dont agree with it. I actually dont agree that (with your example) a headband can be priced 1 to 1.000.000crs. Not even a lovely one <3<3 :P
If you seriously believe that, then i'd say from your perspective i guess you are right. But i dont believe that, thus we can agree to disagree then. :)

Opened 10 boxes. 6 1UV, 3 2UV, 1 Orbit Gun. Averaging my and Veridian's numbers gives 8%. Fehzor's math must be wrong. ;)
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RE: EQUINOX BOX PRIZE PERCENTAGES
TL;DR: OOO is doing their job RIGHT. These boxes SHOULD have low odds.

You shouldn't be surprised about the Equinox box % by now. They've come four times a year for the past few years. That's WHY they have low odds. To keep their good stuff even a little bit rare the good stuff has to be super duper rare.

What would happen if auras were handed out like candy? If it were 5-10%? They wouldn't be rare. They wouldn't be desirable. Evidence: how many people did you see wearing Celestial/Galactic costumes this week? Almost none, right?
Have you ever played another MMO? The badass costumes and gear are all high level and we all want to look badass. That's human psychology. It gives people something they want to strive for, that isn't easy to get. We like that. We enjoy that in our games. We like working towards it and it makes us feel good when we get it.
That goes triple for a game with a social component, like a MMO.
When the Celestial costumes were new everybody who had one rocked it and felt supercool. Now it's all "meh, whatever." Because at this point they are common. Your complaints above don't even mention the Galactic or Navigator stuff. You dismiss those outright.

If a game is easy it is a very boring game. You wouldn't play it, not for long.

I say OOO is doing their job RIGHT. If we get these boxes 4x year they need to be 75% UV tickets. Because you may not realize it, but that's the way YOU want it.

Equinox is twice a year Ches, you're thinking of the Solstice. And now there is 4 Celestial items fighting for that 1% spot, be sure to mark it down in your calendars to come back in 2018, 2020 and 2022 for another crack at the gun.

I'm going to assume you spent $40 on this promo. For two transactions of $20, you could have also purchased two batches of 7500 energy, totalling 15k energy. This is about 1.5m crowns.

Now for the same price as Punch, taking out the UV ticket prices, you have a total of 1,155,000 crowns. What's good about that gun is that its price is likely higher than the remaining crowns... But the chances of that happening are rather small.

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Equinox promo comes twice a year. So does solstice. Different items, both have the same UV ticket problem.

The reason boxes were changed over to standalone boxes is because we wanted the contents of the boxes. This was a good thing.
Equinox boxes are 80% not actual promo related items. This is a bad thing.

Selling the exact same box with energy attached to it makes it a good thing. Selling a modified box standalone is a good thing.

I've already got what costumes I want from this promo. I'm at ease with it. However similarly to the setup of the black kat event I see how there are problems outright with the system. Similarly again to the black kat event setup, solutions are really simple.

The next issue is the fact that equinox gear are not direct reskins. Orbit gun, shield, sword, bomb... All of those are unique weapons. If all of those were reskins I would have zero problems with them. However the scarcity of functional weapons and playstyles puts me even further away from labeling this promo nicely.

Adding to this, the new weapons are rotated out of the boxes come the next promo. I don't see a celestial saber in this box, we may never see that weapon ever again. Is being rare and unique good? Yes. Is having a limited time real-money-gambling combat option that just so happens to be unique good? Not at all.

Serene items, shadow items, and obsidian items are parts of reoccurring promotions as well. This doesn't mean the promotions pack UV tickets into their boxes to make the items rarer. If you buy one of those boxes you can rest assured that you'll get an item from the promo out of it, not something you could spend the same money on in energy and get better results.

Rarity doesn't need to be artificial. Make some standard costumes with the same color schemes, but without the spacey skin color. Bam, you keep the 20% chance for the current stuff in tact, but the 80% items would become desirable. I would easily drop $20 on the promo if I had a 80% chance to get a lower "tier" costume, and a 20% chance of an upper tier costume. If I buy a box I want what's in the box, not something I can drop the same money on and get better results with.

But seriously at this point this promo has enough items to be 100% celestial stuff. Making it an energy bundle makes items rarer anyways, but not artificially rare like the current setup.

You already know the answer for why they removed energy from promos.

*whistles innocently* WTS asi vh celestial orbitgun *Continues too whistle innocently*