I've been looking at the Depot lately and I want to do more Shadow Lairs at some point; only thing being that it costs 1800 Energy just to enter one alone. What are people's opinions on the current price?
Shadow Key Energy Pricing?
Fri, 06/17/2016 - 13:31
Fri, 06/17/2016 - 13:46
#2
Yeah. Too much.
Fair price would be around 800-1000 Energy. 1800 is just really too high.
You get 10kcr raw money + everything else in a run, which is not Vana.
SL Vana pays a bit above 20kcr + ee .
Fri, 06/17/2016 - 13:57
#3
As someone who generally prefers solo play i agree. I went in there yesterday and cost me alone 1,800 energy which is pretty steep. Its pretty much the only content left I haven't done to death.
Fri, 06/17/2016 - 17:03
#4
I agree with
I agree with Veridiandynamics. Honestly its about time the developers started listening to the players and I also believe that shadow keys are way to expensive. The cost is basically the only reason I don't ever go down to shadow lair.
Sat, 06/18/2016 - 11:13
#5
Like a lot of end game
Like a lot of end game content, of which there is actually quite a lot of, its too expensive in either time or money so nobody does it.
And again like most old content, it was created around different rulesets but has never been and likely never will be maintained to keep up with changes. Access should be per player not per team, because multiplayer at the endgame is dead.
The primary reason for going is to get the gear, which naturally means there is no reason to go again after you have it. Selling the material is a faulty answer because your customer will only buy it once and never again.
If they really wanted people to go and at the same time keep the material supply low, then obviously the material should be able to be recycled into reduced cost for the next trip.
And clearly the entrance should be bolted onto the core terminal now.
Mon, 06/20/2016 - 08:30
#6
+1 for entry feeEach party
+1 for entry fee
Each party member pays, maybe 500 to 1000 energy to enter.
I love Shadow Lair's, but as it stands its not worth it.
EDIT: Ignore this. I was looking it at from a solo perspective and didn't think it through xP
Sat, 06/18/2016 - 13:38
#7
@Enclavean
Thats more than ppl pay now.
Usual fee is 400-450 E / party member , and it almost doubles the fair price.
Its not a bad idea to have all ppl just pay a price, but it should be 200-300 Energy.
Sat, 06/18/2016 - 14:15
#8
@Above
Owww I forgot. As I said, I prefer soloing. I usually only party for social reasons which is 90% FSC runs xP
Sat, 06/18/2016 - 15:04
#9
The price of the keys would be ok it's just the energy prices nowadays.
Don't think they should lower the key cost just because energy prices are high, then they'd have to do that on everything, they should work on lowering the energy cost instead.
When I do Shadow Lairs, each team member contributes 450 energy. At 10,000 crowns per 100 energy, that's 45,000 crowns per trip.
In the past, the Supply Depot has occasionally sold Shadow Keys for something like 1,300 energy. When that happens, try to stock up. Then each team member spends only about 32,500 crowns.
Meanwhile, you get a decent amount of payoff. I don't have precise numbers. You can often sell the material. You can craft a 5-star armor without paying is 25,000-crown recipe cost, although most Shadow Lair armor is not worth crafting.
I guess I feel that the price isn't too bad, overall.